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Many different opinions about SNSD's Korean/worldwide comeback single The Boys. More on that later. You can't deny though that they naaailed their first perfomance. This song really allows them to show off themselves as powerhouse vocalists, and the choreography is really powerful as well. It's all very cool image-wise. Seohyun is AAA here.

I see thread contributor descriptivist is disappointed with the Korean lyrics on her tumblr. Yes, maybe I agree, it's not like it should be their place to cheer on the boys. But the lyrics don't really come off as simple as that. Sunny says as much in an interview:

Sunny – “The lyrics’ (meaning) are up to the interpretation (of the listeners'). Rather than just the simple meaning of girls giving boys support, it can be interpreted in many ways. The girls could be telling the boys that we’ll take the lead, giving off a more tough image. It could also be interpreted as girls telling the boys to get their act together and cheer up. (laughs) The song is also aims to give courage to people, whether they’re girls or guys, who are tired out (by life).”

Then there's the rap thing and the Athena reference..

abcfsk, Friday, 21 October 2011 17:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

I found this song really plodding and without melody imo

k-pop just can't pull off these bangers

dayo, Friday, 21 October 2011 20:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

don't really know what 'these bangers' means here

abcfsk, Friday, 21 October 2011 20:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

okay, well, aggressive, dirty sounding assertive bangers

dayo, Friday, 21 October 2011 20:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

kpop has been a big internet fad for a lil while huh

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 21 October 2011 20:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah

check this version of the boys out btw. I like it better than the final mix

dayo, Friday, 21 October 2011 20:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

"okay, well, aggressive, dirty sounding assertive bangers"

foundation of k-pop imo. what they do best

abcfsk, Friday, 21 October 2011 20:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

what are your favorite kpop dirty bangers

the singers never feel like they have enough individuality to pull off the swag necessary for a dirty banger

dayo, Friday, 21 October 2011 21:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

who is the beyonce of k pop

boa?

dayo, Friday, 21 October 2011 21:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well don't you think 4Minute's singles fit that category? The 'Huh's? Shinee's Lucifer? Some of 2NE1's hits? I think I might like DR Feelgood even better as far as Riley-produced girl group bangers go, though. Maybe we have different definitions of dirty bangers, but when Seo Taji and his followers put down the rules in the 90s they were basically about sounding dirty and loud.

BoA is more like.. a super-talented britney mixed with a bit of Ciara. Beyonce of k-pop.. Hyori fits the career trajectory of being too big for a big girl group and becoming the leading pop star in the country, all individuality and sass, but her music, style, voice, don't fit. Some people predict Sistar's Hyorin going that way, she's done beyonce dances on tv, her voice is great and rnb-y, she's been a solo star in 'Immortal Song', the singing contest where established artists battle eachother.

Pitchfork give their official take on k-pop http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/8700-to-anyone-the-rise-of-korean-wave/

abcfsk, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 12:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Bah! I wanted to write something about K-Pop for another outlet but the thunder's being stolen left, right and centre. I hope the growing interest lasts longer than a few articles, though.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 13:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

The up and coming Minneapolis duo Elite Gymnastics are very vocal K-Pop fanatics. They have a free mix here with a lot of K-Pop on it:

http://elitegymnastics.tumblr.com/post/8628044234/all-we-fucking-care-about-is-kpop-whitehouse-and-our

K-Pop is definitely a growing internet sensation among Western Audiences.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sorry if that came off spammy - I really like these guys but they seem relevant to the "Is K-Pop going mainstream in the West?" discussion.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 14:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ummm LOL ok that P'fork article is written by a dude from Elite Gymnastics.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Heh, yeah, I noticed they fronted k-pop in an interview there earlier, guess Pitchfork needed the expertise.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well don't you think 4Minute's singles fit that category? The 'Huh's? Shinee's Lucifer? Some of 2NE1's hits? I think I might like DR Feelgood even better as far as Riley-produced girl group bangers go, though. Maybe we have different definitions of dirty bangers, but when Seo Taji and his followers put down the rules in the 90s they were basically about sounding dirty and loud.

BoA is more like.. a super-talented britney mixed with a bit of Ciara. Beyonce of k-pop.. Hyori fits the career trajectory of being too big for a big girl group and becoming the leading pop star in the country, all individuality and sass, but her music, style, voice, don't fit. Some people predict Sistar's Hyorin going that way, she's done beyonce dances on tv, her voice is great and rnb-y, she's been a solo star in 'Immortal Song', the singing contest where established artists battle eachother.

Pitchfork give their official take on k-pop http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/8700-to-anyone-the-rise-of-korean-wave/

― abcfsk, Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:53 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

maybe some of 2NE1s? I listened to 4minute's latest album and their voices get buried underneath the production - it sounds like they're singing from the next room!

dayo, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

is there a k-pop 'goodies'?

dayo, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 21:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

if you could follow only one blog about k-pop news, and wanted to be on top of all the latest singles, what would it be?

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

I do dig this (courtesy of http://maddieloveskpop.tumblr.com/post/12502584957 )

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 13:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

allkpop is the biggest - it's ridiculously big, there are 15 000 comments on the story about snsd releasing the boys video. they mostly translate gossipy tabloid korean stories, often infuriating stuff, but i do use them as the main source to know what is released and when. omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com process most of the allkpop stories and add some of their own, with a less childish crowd (although the ohnotheydidnt-ian demographic with all their "slayed" and "dead"s are capable enough of annoying on their own). so.. one of those two.

I follow some youtube users for more obscure pop releases.

that wonder girls song is so much in the vein of jyps miss a singles, but it's fun and catchy

abcfsk, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 14:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

'be my baby is great'

I like the little fakeout at the beginning with those low rubbery synths that have become associated with the 'k-pop dirty banger' but then the stadium synths drop in and it's just such a summery little song

but why did they release it in november :(

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 22:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

lots of people call it a christmas-y tune, though

T-ara's new MV is boinkers insane as per t-ara standards. tune is back to their first album vintage sound, sweeeet

abcfsk, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 07:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

ah, what's the song they're covering in the beginning?

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 13:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh wait, britney, right?

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 13:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Just borrowing some of Max Martin's chords.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 13:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

hah well part of it definitely sounds like oops I did it again... or baby one more time... can't remember which

ASPIE Rocky (dayo), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 15:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Truly impressive performance from the Wonder Girls fans in this one:

Here's the Cry Cry audio http://youtu.be/AC9if2OBRyI

abcfsk, Sunday, 13 November 2011 08:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

I reviewed the new Wonder Girls album on Burning Ambulance today.

that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

that brown eyed girls single upthread is so massive. more aggressive disco strings everywhere, please

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

christ this whole wonder girls album is really solid

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I love this egregious use of stadium synth by the wonder girls, does every song on the album use them?

dayo, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's not on the Wonder Girls 2011 album. You can probably hear that sort of thing on a few tracks, but the album is a bit of this and a bit of that, although surprisingly cohesive and... good.

Some noteworthy 2012 singles so far:
Nine Muses - News
Sunny Hill - The Grasshopper Song(or "hey fellow Koreans, let's not get consumed by work ethics and long hours")

abcfsk, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love how the Nine Muses cut off the final vowels in the chorus. Like hissing snakes.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

meant to say something in this thread last year about the miss a record, on which every track is bangin'

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was a bit disappointed myself! But then I had heard almost all the songs as singles, and they were excellent, and then I'm left with the few new ones. Without that in mind it's a pretty great album.

Now a 2011 album which really surprised me with its high quality was SISTAR's So Cool.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 18:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

You can enjoy SNSD on LIVE WITH KELLY Wednesday the 1st.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 01:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

really like that nine lives song

dayo, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 02:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

nine muses, I'm sorry

dayo, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 02:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

They're also appearing on DAVID LETTERMAN. Too bad it's not their best single!

abcfsk, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 10:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Then new Dal Shabet is good, has grown on me, packs a real punch. The video is a bit too violent for my taste.

But this.. industrial? metal? album track is also great: http://youtu.be/Ge5cM2nzkQI

abcfsk, Friday, 27 January 2012 11:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't get this. How can you listen to songs like "Sorry Sorry" without feeling awkward? I turned it off after 10 seconds. Anyway, I enjoy 2NE1's "I Don't Care." What songs are similar to that?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 27 January 2012 11:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Did you just look at the posts from two years ago? Anyway I don't know why I'd feel awkward listening to Sorry, Sorry even if it's not one of my favorites.

There have been a few I Don't Care-like synth rnb tunes since then.. maybe this http://youtu.be/8TybPXqzQ50

abcfsk, Friday, 27 January 2012 11:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

why would you feel awkward?

dayo, Friday, 27 January 2012 11:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like the revenge angle!

dayo, Friday, 27 January 2012 11:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

abcfsk: haha yeah, I just found this thread yesterday.

dayo: because it sounds, uh, (I don't know how to say this without offending someone) gay.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 27 January 2012 14:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyway here's my country's version of k-pop. these groups are very big here.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 27 January 2012 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

You didn't really manage to not sound offensive, or make any sense.

abcfsk, Friday, 27 January 2012 14:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is not really k-pop but rather k-punk, but i figure this is a good as thread as any?

i've recently rediscovered crying nut after finding out that they're on spotify

http://open.spotify.com/track/0QJdScYJuZDw0SgICqJpqO
http://open.spotify.com/track/4og6Qix8vofFvC8UdZobEb

anyone know/like them?

rayuela, Friday, 27 January 2012 14:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't say I know them. Will check out.

Meanwhile

abcfsk, Saturday, 28 January 2012 21:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Copy paste that image url somewhere else obviously.

abcfsk, Saturday, 28 January 2012 21:57 (2 years ago) Permalink


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