oooh right forgot that one. The only Nick Cave album I own and enjoy listening to - sounds amazing
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
Ironically didn't produce most of Stetsasonic's best work though - who woulda thunk it?
Stetsasonic is really an odd beast - so many dudes! Certainly the biggest, most diverse crew up until Wu-Tang, and unlike Wu-Tang they had a bunch of members producing beats. Paul seems kind of underused/underrepresented in their catalog but he was really young/just coming up.
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
xp The Royal Trux album, "Thank You" which he produced sounds fuckin' A, great production work on that record.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
I have kind of a love-hate relationship with it - there's some great tune on Thank You but often I find the "lead bass"-style of playing used throughout to be kind of distracting
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
42. TIEXenomania (94 points, 4 votes)http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Sa9SPINujks/SOSDlmt7QkI/AAAAAAAAASc/R7SfnSZscmk/s400/higgins.jpgCredits: Girls Aloud, Cher, Kylie Minogue, Dannii Minogue, Pet Shop Boys, Sugababes, others
ANDGary Katz (94 points, 4 votes)http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50510_48230230484_7309048_n.jpgCredits: STEELY DAN, Diana Ross, 10cc, Joe Cocker, Thomas Jefferson Kaye
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
I had never heard of Xenomania before this poll fwiw
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
love how varied this list is already! voted for Quik and Katz
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
41. TIEJimmy Miller (95 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)http://www.studiowner.com/images/jimmymiller569w_465.jpgCredits: the Rolling Stones, Primal Scream, the Plasmatics, Motorhead
ANDNorman Whitfield (95 points, 5 votes)http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Normanwhitfield.jpgCredits: Marvin Gaye, the Temptations, Rose Royce, Gladys Knight & The Pips
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
glad my #1 c2 vote got him on the list at least.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
^^two I missed. Jimmy Miller also did Traffic.
Xpost
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but nobody likes Traffic
... do they?
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
Alex in nyc loves Low Spark, but Miller didn't do that one.
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
was glad to see Whitfield get a nod, I love that psych-Motown stuff
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
imho Johns' specialty was capturing that magic peculiar to drunken englishmen
He captured the magic of the drunkest Englishman, Keith Moon. No one but Johns had the slightest clue how to mic/record Moon's kit.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
tbf England seemed rife with rich, drunk purveyors of the blooze in the 70s. "Drunk Englishmen" is one of my iTunes playlists.
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
i like traffic
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
40. Marley Marl (96 points, 5 votes)http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/pic200/drp000/p019/p01923wq87l.jpgCredits: House Producer for the Juice Crew (Big Daddy Kane, Biz Markie, Roxanne Shanté, Kool G Rap & DJ Polo, MC Shan, and Masta Ace), Eric B & Rakim, LL Cool J, King Tee, Lords of the Underground, others
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
awesome!
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
Marley Marl is legendary. Some strong showings so far. I had Katz at #3, those Dan records are the epitome of perfect production/sound imo.
― Jessie J Pink!man (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
shit i think i forgot marley
― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
me and Spottie voted for him, I forget who else
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
39. Joe Boyd (98 points, 4 votes)http://images.publicradio.org/content/2007/04/13/20070413_joe_boyd_2.jpgCredits: Nick Drake, Fairport Convention, Incredible String Band
^^^no decent pictures of this guy anywhere afaict
I missed seeing the Boyd/Hitchcock show the other week due a scheduling screwup. Still kicking myself.
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
his White Bicycles book is very entertaining
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
38. Todd Rundgren (101 points, 5 votes)http://www.sweetslyrics.com/images/img_gal/14100_Todd+Rundgren.jpgCredits: Solo, Sparks, New York Dolls, Badfinger, Grand Funk Railroad, Hall & Oates, Meatloaf, Patti Smith, XTC, the Tubes, Cheap Trick, 12 Rods, Psychedelic Furs, others
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
think I'll get up to 35 and then call it a day
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
Rundgren was on my semi-short list.
― Martyr McFly (WmC), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
37. Geoff Emerick (109 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/9736789.jpgCredits: The Beatles, Paul McCartney & Wings, Elvis Costello, Badfinger, Ultravox, others
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
no good pictures of this guy either
Rundgren seems like a huge asshole from the few firsthand accounts I've heard
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
i love that like every single entry on this list is someone it'd be worth listening to a whole box set of stuff they've done
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.yoursdaily.com/var/yoursdaily/storage/images/media/images/culture_media/music/beatles/george_martin_geoff_emerick/64716-1-eng-GB/george_martin_geoff_emerick.jpg
Georgie 'n' Jeffy
― Martyr McFly (WmC), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
36. John Leckie (110 points, 6 votes)http://www.sjpdodgy.co.uk/John%20Leckie%20Abbey%20Road.jpgCredits: The Fall, XTC & Dukes of Stratosphear, the Stone Roses, the Verve, Radiohead, Syd Barrett, Paul McCartney, The Adverts, Simple Minds, others
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
One of Mael bros. said they knew whenever Rundgren was enjoying himself in the studio because that's when he went around with drumsticks in his nostrils.
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
last for the day
35. Prince (115 points, 5 votes)http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/images-7/prince-purple-rain.jpgCredits: Solo, the Time, the Family, Sheila E, Vanity, Apolonia 6, others
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link
50. Mutt Lange (82 points, 3 votes)49. DJ Quik (83 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)48. Carl Craig (85 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)47. Prince Paul (86 points, 4 votes)46. Glyn Johns (87 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)45. The Dust Brothers (88 points, 5 votes)44. Swizz Beats (89 points, 5 votes)43. David Briggs (91 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)42. TIE Xenomania (94 points, 4 votes) AND Gary Katz (94 points, 4 votes)41. TIE Jimmy Miller (95 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote) AND Norman Whitfield (95 points, 5 votes)40. Marley Marl (96 points, 5 votes)39. Joe Boyd (98 points, 4 votes)38. Todd Rundgren (101 points, 5 votes)37. Geoff Emerick (109 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)36. John Leckie (110 points, 6 votes)35. Prince (115 points, 5 votes)
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
prince too low imo
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
So far, only 5 i voted for (Glyn Johns, David Briggs, Joe Boyd, Todd Rundgren, and Geoff Emerick. I strongly considered Jimmy Miller and Prince, the latter obviously deserved a vote, but I knew they'd get plenty of love from others here.
Joe Boyd also produced REM's Fables of the Reconstruction and Pink Floyd's "Arnold Layne" which was recorded before they got a record contract - Syd Barrett wanted to keep him on to produce their upcoming albums and singles, and likely would have had they been signed to a label other than EMI which insisted on using their own staff producers, just as they had with the Beatles a few years earlier.
And speaking of Nick Drake's producer, I must give a nod to his arranger Robert Kirby, a college student who had no arranging experience whatsoever and had never stepped foot in a recording studio before providing the astonishing string, woodwind, and brass scores for Five Leaves Left and Bryter Layter. He went on to arrange for Elton John and other big names, but is still remembered best for his work on the first two ND albums. I didn't vote for him since I don't think that arrangers were eligible - if so, I'd have to include Nelson Riddle, Don Costas, and a bunch of others from the 1950s onward.
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 20 October 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
Oops, 6 i voted for - the five I listed above plus Norman Whitfield
>> Jimmy Miller also did Traffic.> yeah but nobody likes Traffic... do they?
> yeah but nobody likes Traffic
Didn't vote for Jimmy Miller but probably should have, in part because of Traffic's first three albums as well as Blind Faith and Spencer Davis Group. I bought my first keyboard in part because Steve Winwood endorsed it. I was really into his stuff when I was in high school & university
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 20 October 2011 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
Really wish I'd voted for Prince.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 20 October 2011 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
i shoulda voted. leckie way too low
― ballarat organ quartet (electricsound), Thursday, 20 October 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
shit shit shit went out of my way to nominate Erik Jacobsen and even posted a sample clip and then forgot to vote for him. Doubt he'd have made the cut even with my vote though. Shame....
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 20 October 2011 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
I voted for Marley Marl, CC, Swizz Beatz, Prince. Should have voted for Whitfield, but I forgot about him! I've never even heard of these guys:
46. Glyn Johns (87 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)43. David Briggs (91 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)41. TIE Jimmy Miller (95 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)39. Joe Boyd (98 points, 4 votes)37. Geoff Emerick (109 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)36. John Leckie (110 points, 6 votes)
...I guess because they're all "rock" producers.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 20 October 2011 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
Unfortunately, all too many "rock" fans don't know these rock producers either....
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:22 (twelve years ago) link
Floyd did go back to Boyd for "See Emily Play", so I guess they would have kept with him had Syd (and Jenner etc) continued to be part of Floyd.
― Mark G, Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:22 (twelve years ago) link
"See Emily Play", and the whole of their first LP, were produced by EMI staff producer Norman Smith.
― harveyw, Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
Marley Marl was number 7 on my ballot
― gospodin simmel, Thursday, 20 October 2011 12:19 (twelve years ago) link
34. Chris Thomas (117 points, 7 votes)http://s.dsimg.com/image/A-150-31213-1105374800.jpgCredits: Pink Floyd, Roxy Music, Badfinger, Elton John, Paul McCartney, Pulp, The Pretenders, Sex Pistols, INXS
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
Slightly to my embarrassment, Razorlight's 'In The Morning' was where I first noticed Chris Thomas's craft. Aw hell, I'd like it anyway, but there's a beautiful clarity to it that really shines among the other indie stuff of my acquaintance.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 20 October 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
I strongly considered him. Byrds, Dick Dale, some Beach Boys-related
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 05:01 (twelve years ago) link
> yeah fridmann would've gotten a lot of 'anti' votes if that had been part of the poll
― some dude, Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
My off-the-dome 'anti' top 3:
3. Jeff Lynne2. Joe Thomas1. Walter Afanasieff, who repeatedly employs every cliched production frill imagineable in failed attempts to build emotion as a song progresses (thundering snare hits! weepy bowed orchestral strings! raising the key and slowing down just before the last verse!) for the likes of Celion Dion, Michael Bolton, and Mariah Carey.
3. Jeff Lynne
waaaaaht dude those ELO records sound amazing
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 October 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
True, but I hate the ELO sheen he put on other peoples records -- Edmunds, Harrison, Wilburys.
― Martyr McFly (WmC), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
yeah not gonna argue about that
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 October 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
I like how lush Lynne's production can be, but can we lose that synthetic sheen that drapes everything, all the buzzy synths, etc.? It's like the finished product was processed through a volume compressor before being pressed to disc. Agreed that aesthetic worked for ELO (although even there it was needlessly gimmicky - did "I Can't Get It Out Of My Head" really need the vocals processed through a wah-wah pedal?), but it's all wrong for his '80s-and-beyond production for others.
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, Lynne's the only guy whose "overproduction" I've ever complained about
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 24 October 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty good Glyn Johns interview on Michael Shelley's show on WFMU this past Saturday: http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/58051
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link
Killer Lynne productions playlist here:
http://open.spotify.com/user/kfxmannen/playlist/7hRT2CIT29A3HcwmMkDkNO
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for the link to the Glyn interview, WilliamC! I've been meaning to pick up his autobio.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link