Producers, Recording Engineers and Studio Wizards: POLL RESULTS

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Glyn far right, white hat, with dead "Eagles" (back cover of Desperado best pic of it I could find)

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

45. The Dust Brothers (88 points, 5 votes)

Credits: Tone Loc, Young MC, Beastie Boys, Beck, uh Hanson, others

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Johns was one of my last cuts to get down to 20, based mostly on Who's Next.

Martyr McFly (WmC), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

imho Johns' specialty was capturing that magic peculiar to drunken englishmen

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

44. Swizz Beats (89 points, 5 votes)

Credits: the LOX, DMX, Jay-Z, N.O.R.E., Busta Rhymes, Flipmode Squad, Jadakiss, Memphis Bleek, solo, others

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

no love for Swizzy eh

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

43. David Briggs (91 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)

Credits: Neil Young, Royal Trux

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also: Spirit.

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol i have 3 votes come up already :DDDDDD The guy who did Ruff Ryders Anthem! The guy who did Heartz of Men! The guy who did Buddy*!

Ironically didn't produce most of Stetsasonic's best work though - who woulda thunk it?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp Nick Cave too, according to Wikipedia.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

oooh right forgot that one. The only Nick Cave album I own and enjoy listening to - sounds amazing

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ironically didn't produce most of Stetsasonic's best work though - who woulda thunk it?

Stetsasonic is really an odd beast - so many dudes! Certainly the biggest, most diverse crew up until Wu-Tang, and unlike Wu-Tang they had a bunch of members producing beats. Paul seems kind of underused/underrepresented in their catalog but he was really young/just coming up.

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp The Royal Trux album, "Thank You" which he produced sounds fuckin' A, great production work on that record.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have kind of a love-hate relationship with it - there's some great tune on Thank You but often I find the "lead bass"-style of playing used throughout to be kind of distracting

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

42. TIE
Xenomania (94 points, 4 votes)


Credits: Girls Aloud, Cher, Kylie Minogue, Dannii Minogue, Pet Shop Boys, Sugababes, others

AND
Gary Katz (94 points, 4 votes)


Credits: STEELY DAN, Diana Ross, 10cc, Joe Cocker, Thomas Jefferson Kaye

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I had never heard of Xenomania before this poll fwiw

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

love how varied this list is already! voted for Quik and Katz

some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

41. TIE
Jimmy Miller (95 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)


Credits: the Rolling Stones, Primal Scream, the Plasmatics, Motorhead

AND
Norman Whitfield (95 points, 5 votes)


Credits: Marvin Gaye, the Temptations, Rose Royce, Gladys Knight & The Pips

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

glad my #1 c2 vote got him on the list at least.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^two I missed. Jimmy Miller also did Traffic.

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The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah but nobody likes Traffic

... do they?

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Alex in nyc loves Low Spark, but Miller didn't do that one.

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

was glad to see Whitfield get a nod, I love that psych-Motown stuff

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

imho Johns' specialty was capturing that magic peculiar to drunken englishmen

He captured the magic of the drunkest Englishman, Keith Moon. No one but Johns had the slightest clue how to mic/record Moon's kit.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

tbf England seemed rife with rich, drunk purveyors of the blooze in the 70s. "Drunk Englishmen" is one of my iTunes playlists.

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like traffic

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

40. Marley Marl (96 points, 5 votes)

Credits: House Producer for the Juice Crew (Big Daddy Kane, Biz Markie, Roxanne Shanté, Kool G Rap & DJ Polo, MC Shan, and Masta Ace), Eric B & Rakim, LL Cool J, King Tee, Lords of the Underground, others

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

awesome!

some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Marley Marl is legendary. Some strong showings so far. I had Katz at #3, those Dan records are the epitome of perfect production/sound imo.

Jessie J Pink!man (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

shit i think i forgot marley

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

me and Spottie voted for him, I forget who else

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

39. Joe Boyd (98 points, 4 votes)

Credits: Nick Drake, Fairport Convention, Incredible String Band

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^no decent pictures of this guy anywhere afaict

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I missed seeing the Boyd/Hitchcock show the other week due a scheduling screwup. Still kicking myself.

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

his White Bicycles book is very entertaining

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

38. Todd Rundgren (101 points, 5 votes)

Credits: Solo, Sparks, New York Dolls, Badfinger, Grand Funk Railroad, Hall & Oates, Meatloaf, Patti Smith, XTC, the Tubes, Cheap Trick, 12 Rods, Psychedelic Furs, others

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

think I'll get up to 35 and then call it a day

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rundgren was on my semi-short list.

Martyr McFly (WmC), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

37. Geoff Emerick (109 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)

Credits: The Beatles, Paul McCartney & Wings, Elvis Costello, Badfinger, Ultravox, others

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

no good pictures of this guy either

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rundgren seems like a huge asshole from the few firsthand accounts I've heard

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

i love that like every single entry on this list is someone it'd be worth listening to a whole box set of stuff they've done

some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Georgie 'n' Jeffy

Martyr McFly (WmC), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

36. John Leckie (110 points, 6 votes)

Credits: The Fall, XTC & Dukes of Stratosphear, the Stone Roses, the Verve, Radiohead, Syd Barrett, Paul McCartney, The Adverts, Simple Minds, others

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

One of Mael bros. said they knew whenever Rundgren was enjoying himself in the studio because that's when he went around with drumsticks in his nostrils.

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

last for the day

35. Prince (115 points, 5 votes)

Credits: Solo, the Time, the Family, Sheila E, Vanity, Apolonia 6, others

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

50. Mutt Lange (82 points, 3 votes)
49. DJ Quik (83 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)
48. Carl Craig (85 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)
47. Prince Paul (86 points, 4 votes)
46. Glyn Johns (87 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)
45. The Dust Brothers (88 points, 5 votes)
44. Swizz Beats (89 points, 5 votes)
43. David Briggs (91 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)
42. TIE Xenomania (94 points, 4 votes) AND Gary Katz (94 points, 4 votes)
41. TIE Jimmy Miller (95 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote) AND Norman Whitfield (95 points, 5 votes)
40. Marley Marl (96 points, 5 votes)
39. Joe Boyd (98 points, 4 votes)
38. Todd Rundgren (101 points, 5 votes)
37. Geoff Emerick (109 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)
36. John Leckie (110 points, 6 votes)
35. Prince (115 points, 5 votes)

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

prince too low imo

some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

So far, only 5 i voted for (Glyn Johns, David Briggs, Joe Boyd, Todd Rundgren, and Geoff Emerick. I strongly considered Jimmy Miller and Prince, the latter obviously deserved a vote, but I knew they'd get plenty of love from others here.

Joe Boyd also produced REM's Fables of the Reconstruction and Pink Floyd's "Arnold Layne" which was recorded before they got a record contract - Syd Barrett wanted to keep him on to produce their upcoming albums and singles, and likely would have had they been signed to a label other than EMI which insisted on using their own staff producers, just as they had with the Beatles a few years earlier.

And speaking of Nick Drake's producer, I must give a nod to his arranger Robert Kirby, a college student who had no arranging experience whatsoever and had never stepped foot in a recording studio before providing the astonishing string, woodwind, and brass scores for Five Leaves Left and Bryter Layter. He went on to arrange for Elton John and other big names, but is still remembered best for his work on the first two ND albums. I didn't vote for him since I don't think that arrangers were eligible - if so, I'd have to include Nelson Riddle, Don Costas, and a bunch of others from the 1950s onward.

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 20 October 2011 01:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oops, 6 i voted for - the five I listed above plus Norman Whitfield

>> Jimmy Miller also did Traffic.

> yeah but nobody likes Traffic

... do they?

Didn't vote for Jimmy Miller but probably should have, in part because of Traffic's first three albums as well as Blind Faith and Spencer Davis Group. I bought my first keyboard in part because Steve Winwood endorsed it. I was really into his stuff when I was in high school & university

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 20 October 2011 01:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

female producers i would have considered voting for: anjali dutt, jessica corcoran

ballarat organ quartet (electricsound), Friday, 21 October 2011 23:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Damn, knew I shoulda checked ILM's status on Wednesday rather than risk missing the live results rollout! Oh well, here's my pedestrian ballot:

1.George Martin
2.Rudy Van Gelder
3.Jimmy Page
4.Norman Whitfield
5.Jimmy Miller
6.Giorgio Moroder
7.George Clinton
8.Todd Rundgren
9.Tom Dowd
10.Nesuhi Ertegun
11.The Bomb Squad
12.Brian Eno
13.Holland/Dozier/Holland
14.Jack Endino
15.Tom Wilson
16.Frank Zappa
17.Steve Albini
18.Rick Rubin
19.Martin Rushent
20.Eddie Kramer

I probably wouldn't have voted at all had Shakey Mo not lamented the mere trickle of ballots as deadline approached. My main criteria for inclusion was simply that I loved these guys' sound; that's the rationale behind maybe 15 of these choices; George Martin, Eno, Ertegun and the two Toms have extramusical reasons for inclusion. And a final thanks to Shakey Mo for his time & effort (more than he could've expected obv)

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 22 October 2011 07:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Has anybody lobbied for Mike Chapman?

I didn't vote but would probably have thrown Chapman a vote for Parallel Lines and Eat to the Beat alone

(and I don't really listen to much glam rock and appreciate that Chinnichap became a byword for canned and formulaic but that is a pretty amazingly SHINY sound right there)

anyway I am glad to see Plank do well and have a few new names to check out as a result of this poll and people's ballots

how do i shot slime mould voltron form (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 22 October 2011 10:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

so yeah, thanks Shakey!

how do i shot slime mould voltron form (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 22 October 2011 10:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

maurizio and Basic Channel the same thing, yes?

kraudive, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

still wouldn't make it into the top 50 though

kraudive, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

So, hold on, absolutely nobody voted for Holger Czukay?

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

and I don't really listen to much glam rock and appreciate that Chinnichap became a byword for canned and formulaic but that is a pretty amazingly SHINY sound right there

Mike Leander!!!!!!!

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

alan moulder-0. my 19 year old me weeps. dave fridmann gets 51 points. not that i voted but that guy is the worst.

keythhtyek, Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fucking hate Fridmann's sound these days.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah fridmann would've gotten a lot of 'anti' votes if that had been part of the poll

some dude, Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

I actually considered Mike Leander!

Also....

Neptunes *and* The Neptunes?

― V79, Friday, October 21, 2011 2:32 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

man I went through this list multiple times (pretty much after every ballot came in) to check for duplicates/vote splitting and I STILL fucked this up arggh

I guess the Neptunes would have placed a bit higher then... Lindsey Buckingham still wouldn't have made the cut tho

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, October 21, 2011 2:48 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

Wait a min, whuzziss?

Lindsey Buckingham 59
lyndsey buckingham 11

RECOUNT!

(aah he still wouldn't have placed, but now I feel guilty because his presence on my ballot would have catapulted him into the top 50)

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 04:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

jeez, gary usher didn't even get a mention

buzza, Monday, 24 October 2011 04:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

I strongly considered him. Byrds, Dick Dale, some Beach Boys-related

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 05:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

> yeah fridmann would've gotten a lot of 'anti' votes if that had been part of the poll

― some dude, Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

My off-the-dome 'anti' top 3:

3. Jeff Lynne
2. Joe Thomas
1. Walter Afanasieff, who repeatedly employs every cliched production frill imagineable in failed attempts to build emotion as a song progresses (thundering snare hits! weepy bowed orchestral strings! raising the key and slowing down just before the last verse!) for the likes of Celion Dion, Michael Bolton, and Mariah Carey.

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 05:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

3. Jeff Lynne

waaaaaht dude those ELO records sound amazing

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 October 2011 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

True, but I hate the ELO sheen he put on other peoples records -- Edmunds, Harrison, Wilburys.

Martyr McFly (WmC), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah not gonna argue about that

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 October 2011 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like how lush Lynne's production can be, but can we lose that synthetic sheen that drapes everything, all the buzzy synths, etc.? It's like the finished product was processed through a volume compressor before being pressed to disc. Agreed that aesthetic worked for ELO (although even there it was needlessly gimmicky - did "I Can't Get It Out Of My Head" really need the vocals processed through a wah-wah pedal?), but it's all wrong for his '80s-and-beyond production for others.

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 20:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Lynne's the only guy whose "overproduction" I've ever complained about

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 24 October 2011 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink


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