Quik is great, very underrated in general but well loved around here
xxp
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
i need to give that herbie hancock album some love this week .. in the mood for it i think.
― mark e, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
It seems like his goal in refining his craft over the years was to eliminate any possible trace of spontaneity. Not that he ever achieved that completely, but next to his Shania records, Back In Black sounds like a field recording.
IIRC, Ric Ocasek once told a story about how one day during the sessions for Heartbeat City, Mutt requested only the services of either Eliot Easton or Ben Orr. They did like 12-15 hours in the studio, upon the completeion of which the musician told Ric that, "(Mutt said) We're starting to get a good sound."
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
47. Prince Paul (86 points, 4 votes)http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZUdf6cN1uLjrvPazEG3QPweXJh8lT8HKCLLnkWWp21jqIyBaLpwuM-XBC2gCredits: Big Daddy Kane, Stetsasonic, De La Soul, Gravediggaz, Handsome Boy Modeling School, Queen Latifah, 3rd Bass, solo
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
tbf if I had Mutt Lange's budget this is about how I would spend my studio time too
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
Nice, my Quik #1 vote got him on the list.
― Jessie J Pink!man (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
yeah definitely put him over the top. you were not alone tho - I was glad that we got enough ballots to ensure that no one got on the list just because of a single voter.
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah 38 ballots aint bad, I was worried for a while there.
― Jessie J Pink!man (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
46. Glyn Johns (87 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)http://www.analogtapesupply.com/img/upload/stones1967_13.jpgCredits: Bob Dylan, The Beatles, The Band, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Eagles, Eric Clapton, The Clash, The Steve Miller Band, Small Faces/Faces/Rod Stewart, Blue Öyster Cult, Midnight Oil, New Model Army, Fairport Convention, Humble Pie
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
^^^that's Glyn on the right, impossible dude to find good pictures of tbh
I voted Glyn #1. Glad to see he made it onto the poll.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
such a babyface!
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
Glyn far right, white hat, with dead "Eagles" (back cover of Desperado best pic of it I could find)
http://scenicnewengland.net/guitar/band/captured.jpg
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
45. The Dust Brothers (88 points, 5 votes)http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/n/d/ndv3obxax8s3ax83.jpgCredits: Tone Loc, Young MC, Beastie Boys, Beck, uh Hanson, others
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
Johns was one of my last cuts to get down to 20, based mostly on Who's Next.
― Martyr McFly (WmC), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
imho Johns' specialty was capturing that magic peculiar to drunken englishmen
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
44. Swizz Beats (89 points, 5 votes)http://1hiphopucit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/swizz_beats_young_starz.jpgCredits: the LOX, DMX, Jay-Z, N.O.R.E., Busta Rhymes, Flipmode Squad, Jadakiss, Memphis Bleek, solo, others
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
no love for Swizzy eh
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
43. David Briggs (91 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)http://1in8motorsports.org/wp-content/gallery/friends/David%20Briggs%20-%20Composer%20-%20Singer%20-%20Producer.jpgCredits: Neil Young, Royal Trux
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
Also: Spirit.
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
lol i have 3 votes come up already :DDDDDD The guy who did Ruff Ryders Anthem! The guy who did Heartz of Men! The guy who did Buddy*!
Ironically didn't produce most of Stetsasonic's best work though - who woulda thunk it?
― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
xp Nick Cave too, according to Wikipedia.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
oooh right forgot that one. The only Nick Cave album I own and enjoy listening to - sounds amazing
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
Stetsasonic is really an odd beast - so many dudes! Certainly the biggest, most diverse crew up until Wu-Tang, and unlike Wu-Tang they had a bunch of members producing beats. Paul seems kind of underused/underrepresented in their catalog but he was really young/just coming up.
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
xp The Royal Trux album, "Thank You" which he produced sounds fuckin' A, great production work on that record.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
I have kind of a love-hate relationship with it - there's some great tune on Thank You but often I find the "lead bass"-style of playing used throughout to be kind of distracting
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
42. TIEXenomania (94 points, 4 votes)http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Sa9SPINujks/SOSDlmt7QkI/AAAAAAAAASc/R7SfnSZscmk/s400/higgins.jpgCredits: Girls Aloud, Cher, Kylie Minogue, Dannii Minogue, Pet Shop Boys, Sugababes, others
ANDGary Katz (94 points, 4 votes)http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50510_48230230484_7309048_n.jpgCredits: STEELY DAN, Diana Ross, 10cc, Joe Cocker, Thomas Jefferson Kaye
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
I had never heard of Xenomania before this poll fwiw
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
love how varied this list is already! voted for Quik and Katz
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
41. TIEJimmy Miller (95 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)http://www.studiowner.com/images/jimmymiller569w_465.jpgCredits: the Rolling Stones, Primal Scream, the Plasmatics, Motorhead
ANDNorman Whitfield (95 points, 5 votes)http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/Normanwhitfield.jpgCredits: Marvin Gaye, the Temptations, Rose Royce, Gladys Knight & The Pips
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
glad my #1 c2 vote got him on the list at least.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
^^two I missed. Jimmy Miller also did Traffic.
Xpost
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but nobody likes Traffic
... do they?
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
Alex in nyc loves Low Spark, but Miller didn't do that one.
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
was glad to see Whitfield get a nod, I love that psych-Motown stuff
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
He captured the magic of the drunkest Englishman, Keith Moon. No one but Johns had the slightest clue how to mic/record Moon's kit.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
tbf England seemed rife with rich, drunk purveyors of the blooze in the 70s. "Drunk Englishmen" is one of my iTunes playlists.
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link
i like traffic
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
40. Marley Marl (96 points, 5 votes)http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/pic200/drp000/p019/p01923wq87l.jpgCredits: House Producer for the Juice Crew (Big Daddy Kane, Biz Markie, Roxanne Shanté, Kool G Rap & DJ Polo, MC Shan, and Masta Ace), Eric B & Rakim, LL Cool J, King Tee, Lords of the Underground, others
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:26 (twelve years ago) link
awesome!
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
Marley Marl is legendary. Some strong showings so far. I had Katz at #3, those Dan records are the epitome of perfect production/sound imo.
― Jessie J Pink!man (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
shit i think i forgot marley
― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
me and Spottie voted for him, I forget who else
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
39. Joe Boyd (98 points, 4 votes)http://images.publicradio.org/content/2007/04/13/20070413_joe_boyd_2.jpgCredits: Nick Drake, Fairport Convention, Incredible String Band
^^^no decent pictures of this guy anywhere afaict
I missed seeing the Boyd/Hitchcock show the other week due a scheduling screwup. Still kicking myself.
― The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
his White Bicycles book is very entertaining
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
38. Todd Rundgren (101 points, 5 votes)http://www.sweetslyrics.com/images/img_gal/14100_Todd+Rundgren.jpgCredits: Solo, Sparks, New York Dolls, Badfinger, Grand Funk Railroad, Hall & Oates, Meatloaf, Patti Smith, XTC, the Tubes, Cheap Trick, 12 Rods, Psychedelic Furs, others
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
think I'll get up to 35 and then call it a day
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
Rundgren was on my semi-short list.
― Martyr McFly (WmC), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
hmmm you're right, that's weird
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Allen Touissant just missed the cut! Injustice!
― Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Toussaint, I mean
― Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
xxxpostAs is Lindsey Buckingham.
― The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
Before the results were even posted, I started to think there oughta be a follow-up poll excluding every name that made the top 50. I mean, every record producer ever is kind of too huge to be narrowed down to one canonical list, which only becomes more obvious when you see some of the names that fell short here.
Very cool poll, though. Thanks for doing this, Shakey.
― Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
Neptunes *and* The Neptunes?
― V79, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
man I went through this list multiple times (pretty much after every ballot came in) to check for duplicates/vote splitting and I STILL fucked this up arggh
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
I guess the Neptunes would have placed a bit higher then... Lindsey Buckingham still wouldn't have made the cut tho
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/sites/tampabay.com.blogs.the-buzz-florida-politics/files/images/typepad-legacy-files/88533.recount.jpg
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 21 October 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
female producers i would have considered voting for: anjali dutt, jessica corcoran
― ballarat organ quartet (electricsound), Friday, 21 October 2011 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
Damn, knew I shoulda checked ILM's status on Wednesday rather than risk missing the live results rollout! Oh well, here's my pedestrian ballot:
1.George Martin2.Rudy Van Gelder3.Jimmy Page4.Norman Whitfield5.Jimmy Miller6.Giorgio Moroder7.George Clinton8.Todd Rundgren9.Tom Dowd10.Nesuhi Ertegun11.The Bomb Squad12.Brian Eno13.Holland/Dozier/Holland14.Jack Endino15.Tom Wilson16.Frank Zappa17.Steve Albini18.Rick Rubin19.Martin Rushent20.Eddie Kramer
I probably wouldn't have voted at all had Shakey Mo not lamented the mere trickle of ballots as deadline approached. My main criteria for inclusion was simply that I loved these guys' sound; that's the rationale behind maybe 15 of these choices; George Martin, Eno, Ertegun and the two Toms have extramusical reasons for inclusion. And a final thanks to Shakey Mo for his time & effort (more than he could've expected obv)
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 22 October 2011 07:16 (twelve years ago) link
Has anybody lobbied for Mike Chapman?
I didn't vote but would probably have thrown Chapman a vote for Parallel Lines and Eat to the Beat alone
(and I don't really listen to much glam rock and appreciate that Chinnichap became a byword for canned and formulaic but that is a pretty amazingly SHINY sound right there)
anyway I am glad to see Plank do well and have a few new names to check out as a result of this poll and people's ballots
― how do i shot slime mould voltron form (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 22 October 2011 10:45 (twelve years ago) link
so yeah, thanks Shakey!
maurizio and Basic Channel the same thing, yes?
― kraudive, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:54 (twelve years ago) link
still wouldn't make it into the top 50 though
― kraudive, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:55 (twelve years ago) link
So, hold on, absolutely nobody voted for Holger Czukay?
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
and I don't really listen to much glam rock and appreciate that Chinnichap became a byword for canned and formulaic but that is a pretty amazingly SHINY sound right there
Mike Leander!!!!!!!
― Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
alan moulder-0. my 19 year old me weeps. dave fridmann gets 51 points. not that i voted but that guy is the worst.
― keythhtyek, Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
Fucking hate Fridmann's sound these days.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah fridmann would've gotten a lot of 'anti' votes if that had been part of the poll
― some dude, Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link
I actually considered Mike Leander!
Also....
Neptunes *and* The Neptunes?― V79, Friday, October 21, 2011 2:32 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkman I went through this list multiple times (pretty much after every ballot came in) to check for duplicates/vote splitting and I STILL fucked this up argghI guess the Neptunes would have placed a bit higher then... Lindsey Buckingham still wouldn't have made the cut tho― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, October 21, 2011 2:48 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark
― V79, Friday, October 21, 2011 2:32 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, October 21, 2011 2:48 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark
Wait a min, whuzziss?
Lindsey Buckingham 59lyndsey buckingham 11
RECOUNT!
(aah he still wouldn't have placed, but now I feel guilty because his presence on my ballot would have catapulted him into the top 50)
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 04:39 (twelve years ago) link
jeez, gary usher didn't even get a mention
― buzza, Monday, 24 October 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
I strongly considered him. Byrds, Dick Dale, some Beach Boys-related
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 05:01 (twelve years ago) link
> yeah fridmann would've gotten a lot of 'anti' votes if that had been part of the poll
― some dude, Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
My off-the-dome 'anti' top 3:
3. Jeff Lynne2. Joe Thomas1. Walter Afanasieff, who repeatedly employs every cliched production frill imagineable in failed attempts to build emotion as a song progresses (thundering snare hits! weepy bowed orchestral strings! raising the key and slowing down just before the last verse!) for the likes of Celion Dion, Michael Bolton, and Mariah Carey.
3. Jeff Lynne
waaaaaht dude those ELO records sound amazing
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 October 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
True, but I hate the ELO sheen he put on other peoples records -- Edmunds, Harrison, Wilburys.
― Martyr McFly (WmC), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
yeah not gonna argue about that
― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 October 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
I like how lush Lynne's production can be, but can we lose that synthetic sheen that drapes everything, all the buzzy synths, etc.? It's like the finished product was processed through a volume compressor before being pressed to disc. Agreed that aesthetic worked for ELO (although even there it was needlessly gimmicky - did "I Can't Get It Out Of My Head" really need the vocals processed through a wah-wah pedal?), but it's all wrong for his '80s-and-beyond production for others.
― Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, Lynne's the only guy whose "overproduction" I've ever complained about
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 24 October 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty good Glyn Johns interview on Michael Shelley's show on WFMU this past Saturday: http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/58051
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 13:07 (nine years ago) link
Killer Lynne productions playlist here:
http://open.spotify.com/user/kfxmannen/playlist/7hRT2CIT29A3HcwmMkDkNO
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link
Thanks for the link to the Glyn interview, WilliamC! I've been meaning to pick up his autobio.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link