Nick Cave : Classic or Dud ?

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it reminds me of worm tamer from grinderman 2.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 14 October 2011 01:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

this is where cave laid the groundwork for the grinderman project, no?

no

front-man for British post-punk turned pop chart-topper’s, Scritti Polliti (sic), Friday, 14 October 2011 09:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i've now read the sound/vibe for grinderman goes back as far as cave's early band (the birthday-party, iirc?). i wasn't a fan years ago, when i heard that stuff. maybe it's time for another try, since i love grinderman 2 so much.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 14 October 2011 12:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

awesome

bring back the handlebar mustache tho

mookieproof, Friday, 27 April 2012 03:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

"Well of Misery", Electric Ballroom, 1984 - billed as Nick Cave & The Cavemen

fkn great performance

lol@ spanish subtitles

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 06:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

goddammit

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 06:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

one more

St Huck, Barcelona 1984

melt ur face

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 06:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

He was fantastic once.

Pacific Rinko (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 9 June 2012 11:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure I've wondered out loud here about this, but the de facto breakup of Grinderman and the return of the Dirty Three makes me wonder about the state of the current Bad Seeds. There's been boilerplate murmurings of a new album, but nothing concrete. Been four years.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 13:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

its all a bit weird

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 June 2012 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 years? But Grinderman 2 came out in 2010. Seems like it had run its course and now he's figuring out the next phase of his career.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 years since "Dig, Lazarus, Dig!" the last Bad Seeds album, which is not Grinderman (different sound, line-up, name, etc.).

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dud.

Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Nick's all "I started working with Rasputin when?"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 August 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cave looks a lot less bald there than last time I saw him. Perhaps he shaved off the stache and stuck it on his head?

Position Position, Friday, 10 August 2012 19:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Hell yeah:

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Went to the final tour rehearsal for the new album last night, at a leisure centre ballroom in Hove … and good God the new songs were boring, apart from Jubilee Street or whatever it's called. Not a single melody between them.

Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Saturday, 9 February 2013 12:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

There has been some anticipation of the album on this thread. But yes, it's looking like a boring one.

Eyeball Kicks, Saturday, 9 February 2013 20:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Is that a Guardian page that links to the Barron interview on Rock's Back Pages, or someone talking about it, or a new interview with Barron about it?

boney tassel (sic), Thursday, 10 July 2014 22:38 (4 months ago) Permalink

Click on it, maybe you'll see.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 10 July 2014 22:50 (4 months ago) Permalink

Wow.

boney tassel (sic), Thursday, 10 July 2014 23:50 (4 months ago) Permalink

great interview! (seriously)

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 July 2014 00:21 (4 months ago) Permalink

incidentally the current tour is fucking ferocious and amazing, saw him in SF the other night and it was maybe the best I've seen him out of five or so tours

akm, Friday, 11 July 2014 00:55 (4 months ago) Permalink

So what was the "secret project"?The Good Son?

nostormo, Friday, 11 July 2014 08:37 (4 months ago) Permalink

Rehab?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 July 2014 13:43 (4 months ago) Permalink

And The Ass Saw The Angel, I'd guess.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Friday, 11 July 2014 13:45 (4 months ago) Permalink

"Johnny Suede"?

A great interview.

And yeah they've really been on fire this tour, the Mpls gig was probably one the best shows I've ever seen.

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 11 July 2014 13:45 (4 months ago) Permalink

And The Ass Saw The Angel, I'd guess

Can't be that as it's referred to in the article.

goth colouring book (anagram), Friday, 11 July 2014 14:04 (4 months ago) Permalink

Think it probably was just rehab, as Josh in Chicago says. See the first couple of paragraphs here, for example:

http://nickcave.com/music/nickcaveandthebadseeds/the-good-son/information/

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 11 July 2014 14:09 (4 months ago) Permalink

Here's a more recent interview/article, from last week's NY Times Sunday Magazine, in case you missed it:

http://nyti.ms/1mFsiYg

I was pretty surprised at the ILM reaction to the last album. I thought it was fantastic, and nothing at all like Boatman's Call/NMSWP (neither of which I ever really feel like listening to, aside from a few Boatman tracks) which it was compared to. I wonder though how much of it was due to listening to poor digital streams/files on poor headphones/computer speakers, as I do think it's a more subtle album that might be difficult to appreciate if you can't hear what's going on.

early rejecter, Friday, 11 July 2014 14:20 (4 months ago) Permalink

Once I listened to the whole of Push the Sky Away I loved it, and it's probably the record I've listened to most in the past year. I was disappointed by We No Who U R, as a single, initially, because it did sound like it was supposed to be a Boatman's Call/NMSWP-type song, and a really dull one at that. But as you say, the album's a completely different record - not really built around that kind of songwriting - and even We No Who U R fits perfectly on it.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 11 July 2014 14:31 (4 months ago) Permalink

Actually yeah now that you mention it I was a bit skeptical when I first heard the single too.

Very much looking forward to 20,000 Days in any case.

early rejecter, Friday, 11 July 2014 14:54 (4 months ago) Permalink

i love how the endless choruses of 'the mercy seat' vary subtly so that you can never sing along

Karl Malone, Friday, 11 July 2014 15:37 (4 months ago) Permalink

the bad seeds are just ungodly awesome on this new tour, was probably top 5 shows ever for me

i love push the sky away, so much space and really cool low-key groove based record

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 July 2014 16:18 (4 months ago) Permalink

the last bad seeds show i saw (15 years ago) is top 5 ever for me so i am hyped for tonight. what's the current setlist look like?

adam, Monday, 21 July 2014 20:55 (4 months ago) Permalink

Lots of stuff from the new record, plus one song from most of the other records

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 21 July 2014 20:58 (4 months ago) Permalink

awesome, thanks. i look forward to hearing the live arrangements of these new songs

adam, Monday, 21 July 2014 21:10 (4 months ago) Permalink

"Jubilee Street" in particular is different and awesome

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 21 July 2014 21:12 (4 months ago) Permalink

the periodic eruptions into swansian double-percussionist industrial maelstroms were really something.

i think it's kind of a shame that he writes pretty good piano ballads b/c they are still the least interesting thing that he does. those aside they maintained an impressive level of intensity across the sparser new stuff (like higgs boson blues or jubilee street), the early harsh stuff, and the "pop" stuff (a la red right hand). best show i've seen since sade for sure, and not entirely dissimilar.

adam, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 18:32 (4 months ago) Permalink

and i liked "into my arms" shit too, don't get me wrong, but i was embarrassed for the people of new orleans when they started like fucking waving their arms and clapping in vague rhythm. ugly scene.

adam, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 18:34 (4 months ago) Permalink

http://acltv.com/mentioned-artist/nick-cave-the-bad-seeds/

Cave and band taped an episode for the Austin City Limits tv show

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:28 (3 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I fought the movie all the way, as I find Cave increasingly pompous and occasionally silly, but it works, mostly.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 00:17 (1 month ago) Permalink

I absolutely loathe Cave and find him a ridiculous son of a doctor, so will struggle with this movie.

xelab, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 00:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

Is this out yet? I liked the trailer.

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 01:34 (1 month ago) Permalink

Even if you didn't like his material, the shear mass of his body of work makes him an undeniable classic.

While the Cave-penned screenplays for both "The Proposition" and "Lawless" are benefited greatly by tremendous performances from the cast, he seems to have a pretty solid grip on that form as well.

Additionally, the soundtrack for "The Proposition" by Cave and Warren Ellis is nearly another character in the movie.

bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 02:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

Film has run for 3-4 weeks in NYC.

I do like The Proposition a lot, whereas I have not paid the music much heed since The Boatman's Call.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:07 (1 month ago) Permalink

his recent stretch of albums is a lot better than the immediate post-boatman era.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:13 (1 month ago) Permalink

agreed

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 04:03 (1 month ago) Permalink


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