Kate Bush // 50 Words For Snow

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I take it that's the reason The Director's Cut exists? I don't mind The Red Shoes myself, but I don't know any other records in that kind of AOR field to compare it with. The Sensual World I've never actually heard, though it's got 'This Woman's Work' on it, which is flawless afaiac.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 13 October 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

yea it is one of the better produced tracks on the album

and yes i guess that was the reasoning for TDC, tho DU was awful

surm, Thursday, 13 October 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

Full version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB1f-oEGmUI

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Friday, 14 October 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry, but I am not enjoying the vocal delivery at all. I assume it's a response to loss of vocal capacity. Overall, it feels as though the lyrics have to support a lot of the weight here, and I am not drawn in to the sense of mystery she is going for.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 14 October 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link

I keep thinking of Robert Bly.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 14 October 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i don't think i'll listen to the full length until the album comes out

surm, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

nevermind, just listened to it. it's beautiful. borrows from elements of aerial but also goes back to a never for ever sound, in my mind.

surm, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

That was quick :)

So it's out there already?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

o no i just mean Wild Man 7min version -- if the album were out already i be flippin :P

surm, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

Ooohhhhhhh I see. You had me flipping there for a minute :)

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

http://louderthanwar.com/featured/kate-bush-50-words-for-snow-album-review

surm, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

Wow

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

tbh I do still dread the Elton John duet, but that review is glowing

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

don't know that site, seems a little fanboy-ish but still i'm excited

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

yeah

surm, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.uncut.co.uk/blog/index.php?blog=6&title=kate_bush_50_words_for_snow&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

more even-toned

surm, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

Tbh that louderthanwar review reads like a high school kid wrote it. Way too OMG!!

Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

i know it's true, i just saw it on my facebook feed and get excited

surm, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

Mojo review is largely positive - and suggests Elton knocks one out of the park with his vocal FWIW.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I'm really encouraged by the details in those reviews - rolling pianos, jazzy drums, the mood of A Coral Room. I like. The quality can take care of itself, in time.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

I liked this in the Uncut review:

"But at the same time, the way the track is predicated on Fry’s reputation as bibliophilic fount of all knowledge seems somehow crass. Given how much of Kate Bush’s appeal is built on an image of her being blissfully disconnected from the real world, it is disappointing to imagine her coming up with the concept while slumped in front of QI on a Friday night."

Tim F, Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

Last time out (with a new album), she was writing songs about Washing Machines.

"Blissfully disconnected" has left the building.

Mark G, Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:09 (twelve years ago) link

Mojo review is largely positive

She's famous and over 50 so it's bound to be, innit?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

The spotlight is also shared on the title track, with Stephen Fry cast as Dr Joseph Yupik (Yupiks being an Eskimo tribe of Siberia and Alaska), goaded by Bush – “Come on Joe, you've got 32 to go!” – into finding 50 synonyms for snow. The droll neologising – “Wenceslasaire”, “spangladasha”, “shnamistoflopp'n”, “Zhivagodamarbletash

As long as I breathe, I hope never to hear this track

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I shall be pressing play in fear and trepidation with my hand about an inch from the stop button on that track.

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

o boyy that sounds ... iffy

surm, Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

Both Elton and Fry sound better on record than in theory. They're not playing too much to type.

Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 10 November 2011 13:39 (twelve years ago) link

i would have expected that actually. does that mean you've heard the record?

surm, Thursday, 10 November 2011 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

hang on what stephen fry is on this?????

:(((((((((

i had been really looking forward to it!

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

i mean...i guess she's had rolf harris and peter gabriel on her records before. maybe it won't be so bad :/

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

She's had Lenny Henry on a record before!

I'm no Fry fan but he pitches it just right - not doing his crumpety national treasure thing.

Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

haha has she really?! which one? maybe that's what louis walsh meant all this time

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

'Why Should I Love You', in particular the middle eight 2'45 to 3'30.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Thursday, 10 November 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

I'd be proud to have Rolf Harris on a record of mine tbh

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

The Stephen Fry track is my favourite. Hats off to Kate Bush, the woman who put Lenny Henry and Prince together...

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Thursday, 10 November 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

....Hats off to Roy Harper...ooh she had him on a track

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Thursday, 10 November 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

John, may I compliment you with your exquisite interview with Kate?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 10 November 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks man, I really appreciate it. It was a fraught experience especially seeing as she disagreed with a lot of things I said and she was insanely proficient at changing the subject and talking about me instead of her but for someone who plays her cards close to her chest I think she told me quite a bit. Very, very pleasant to talk to as well. She was quite high on my wishlist, so a bit of a dream job for me.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

ummm YEAH

surm, Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, I think she opened up a lot too! That was my impression. Maybe it's a defense mechanism, but oddly enough she seems most at comfort when she's being interviewed without challenge, like a talk on the radio, earlier this year at the beeb, or someone like Jools etc. From the interview I don't get the impression that she was so proficient to change the subject, or reluctant, it's actually quite unlike any other Kate interview I ever read ~ and I read quite a few. That's why I think it's a brilliant piece of writing, hats off to you sir.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 10 November 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

talking about anything to kate bush is a life-long dream of mine and you've lived it so kudos to you sir

akm, Saturday, 12 November 2011 06:38 (twelve years ago) link

Excellent interview John!

Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 12 November 2011 13:20 (twelve years ago) link

find it hard to read reviews of Kate Bush but that interview is a treat

Ridin' Skyrims (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 November 2011 13:34 (twelve years ago) link

omg

surm, Monday, 14 November 2011 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

l;jkasl;dfkj;lasjfl;jk

.....

surm, Monday, 14 November 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

only on track one but LOVING it so far. oooooh within a minute it's proper kate bush and i have forgotten about director's cut.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 14 November 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

aw shit so far this ruuuules

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Monday, 14 November 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

"Lake Tahoe" carries much of the same vibe as "The Third Wave" off HOL- especially in the vocal sections which echo the Popol Vuh choral parts from Herzog's 'Nosferatu'. Truly gorgeous on headphones (how I'm listening at this moment).

Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link

Really the 2nd and 3rd songs on this, even with their stripped down instrumental pallette of mainly piano, bass and drums, are classic Bush in their lovely weirdness. Very powerful.

Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 20 November 2011 09:52 (twelve years ago) link

what's the difference between saying 'sounds like bland new age muzak' and 'this sounds like new age music'

i mean, thank you for pointing out that it sounded like the bad kind of new age music; that was nice of you

Because "New Age music" tends to cover quite a broad canvas. The Penguin Cafe Orchestra and some half decent ambient often gets lumped in with the blander, more mediocre stuff.

I am genuninely amazed at the reviews this album is getting. This album sounds so much to me like bland, New Age muzak that I'm surprised at some of the hostile comments above. Just because KB isn't very "uptempo" these days obviously doesn't mean she has to be musically uninventive (which is what I meant by "bland" in case there are any more tiresome dissections of that word). I'll give it more listens, but it sounds to me insipid and very weak musically: not really pop, ambient or classical, but a mediocre mish mash of all three. On The Hounds of Love she created a fantastic blend of those things - now it sounds predictable and stale to me.

Zuleika, Sunday, 20 November 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

the vinyl edition of this is seriously incredible. worth the £20 or £25 or whatever is being charged for it.

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

What is it? Just the quality?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

yeah just reaaaally nicely mastered on good quality vinyl, 1 or 2 tracks per side.

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

New video set to my favorite part of my favorite song on the album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKPHA3_cBus

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

enjoyed this today after a walk in deep snow. i love how much silence there is on the album, or the first few tracks anyway - the uncanny way she captures the stillness that follows heavy snowfall.

jabba hands, Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsXhtJ9BTJA

This is the most beautiful thing I have heard all year... Astonishing. (thanks to Geeta on twitter for the heads up)

HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 8 March 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

Wow.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

i so wish there was a version of this album that took out the Elton John verses

it's just so fucking magical up to then then it's all Elton barreling into the track yuck

sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 21:07 (ten years ago) link

I keep forgetting that Misty is one of the best songs of this rapidly-ageing decade

Know Scot! Free Getaway: Glen, Handa Island, Rua Reidh (imago), Thursday, 13 February 2014 03:28 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Still a fantastic listen. Have warmed to the rest of it more or less. The song with Elton stillsounds like a bad "Red Shoes" B-side.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 21 September 2015 06:15 (eight years ago) link

I'd be proud to have Rolf Harris on a record of mine tbh

― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2011 18:00 (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

... errrrrrrrrrrr

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 21 September 2015 11:22 (eight years ago) link

I had somehow forgotten to listen to this when it came out, possibly because I was so turned off by the idea of Director's Cut. But when it popped up on shuffled I thought it was really lovely.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 September 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

Scots 'have 421 words' for snow

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 September 2015 06:01 (eight years ago) link

Lovely record, but pretty seasonal eh?

btw if you bought the vinyl and are in need of cash it seems to be relatively highly priced http://www.discogs.com/sell/release/3242669?ev=rb

niels, Wednesday, 23 September 2015 09:07 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

This is majorly hitting the spot this morning in snowy New Jersey. Her most beautiful of the "comeback" records for me.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 4 January 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link

Stephen Fry track puts me off this record nowadays

you shoulda killfiled me last year (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 January 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

It's 50 Words equivalent of the Rolf Harris one on Aerial

i know kore-eda (or something), Thursday, 4 January 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Great record. Snows come out in Vancouver so it's on my mind

kolakube (Ross), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

This could be an ECM album until Elton swans in and kills the mood.

fetter, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link

‘Misty’ is the standout track on this...not enough sex with snowmen songs in my opinion...

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 23:51 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

also just came on to say this is VERY ecm! if only Weber could have played on it :-(

it's grown on me a huge amount since release, and I find it fairly weird it was produced so close to Director's Cut which I think overall doesn't stand up well.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

the only listenable thing elton john has ever done.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

I liked his other snowy track, “Nikita”.

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

‘Misty’ off this is one of the best things she’s ever done...

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

Thanks ILM for sending me on another Kate Bush kick

THE DON IS GONE (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 27 November 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

I love this album.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 27 November 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link


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