RIP David Brooks

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Frum's a smart feller but I've never quite forgiven him for:

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

i hate david frum and the things he has historically stood for but at least he's not a total waste of space

horseshoe, Thursday, 13 October 2011 18:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Not the right thread, but since we're posting remarks by GOP buffoons here's Douthat's latest dispatch from fantasyland.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

So Frum with some hand-wringing seemingly admitted yesterday that stimulus might have been necessary and now Douthat says stimulus would have been ok if it had been done by a President McCain (in a better way of course than the Dems did). Oy veh.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh douchehatpaws

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

more like Ross don'tdouthat amirite

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

my fav douthat moment was when i saw him interviewed on tv and the interviewer read a wonkete quote that called him a something like a misogynist neck beard homunculus and his response was all 'well sometimes you make arguments that work and sometimes they kinda fall flat but you know' and it was like dawg they just called u a homunculus

ice cr?m, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

In November 2009 I saw Douthat on a Friday at noon in the gay portion of Dupont Circle with a man-friend.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

haha wow: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/opinion/workers-of-the-world-unite.html

s.clover, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

this turdball should write slashfic:

Occasionally you get a candidate, like Tim Pawlenty, who grew up working class. But he gets sucked up by the consultants, the donors and the professional party members and he ends up sounding like every other Republican. Other times a candidate will emerge who taps into a working-class vibe — Pat Buchanan, Mike Huckabee or Sarah Palin. But, so far, these have been flawed candidates who get buried under an avalanche of negative ads and brutal coverage.

This year, Romney is trying to establish some emotional bond with the working class by waging a hyperpatriotic campaign: I may be the son of a millionaire with a religion that makes you uncomfortable, but I love this country just like you. The strategy appears to be only a partial success.

Enter Rick Santorum.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

The country doesn’t want an election that is Harvard Law versus Harvard Law.

wait, hasn't david brooks spent years arguing that this is a perfectly good thing??

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

If you took a working-class candidate from the right, like Santorum, and a working-class candidate from the left, like Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio, and you found a few islands of common ground, you could win this election by a landslide.

Brown was born in Mansfield, Ohio, the son of Emily (née Campbell) and Charles Gailey Brown, M.D.[1] He was named after his maternal grandfather. He became an Eagle Scout in 1967. He received a Bachelor of Arts degree in Russian studies from Yale University in 1974. At Yale, he was in Davenport College, the same residential college as U.S. Presidents George H. W. and George W. Bush

jhøshea nrq (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

and you found a few islands of common ground

Sometimes he sounds just like Tom Friedman

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 05:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone read the Life Reports David Brooks has been running in the nytimes? It's a really good way to make yourself hopeless and depressed.

Nicole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Otoh, you can probably say that about anything relating to David Brooks.

Nicole, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/opinion/brooks-the-materialist-fallacy.html

had to physically restrain myself from ripping the skin off my face as I was reading this.

s.clover, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

He really is such a dunce.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

what the hell's he talking about

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

yogurt, I think

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

He is doing a little kid level response to the standard criticism of Murray's latest book

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

more like Roast in Piss

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Please take a number, if you would like to be the next columnist/blogger/economist etc. to critique David Brooks' latest pronouncement:

Here's Dean Baker

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/david-brooks-denounces-economics-is-biology-next

Brooks also has an interesting theory on the loss of skills. He tells readers:

"The American social fabric is now so depleted that even if manufacturing jobs miraculously came back we still would not be producing enough stable, skilled workers to fill them."

Five years ago we had two million more people employed in manufacturing than we do today. Has the social fabric become so depleted in this period that these people or others could now not fill these jobs if they came back? If Brooks really thinks that the ill effects of unemployment are that extreme he should be screaming for more stimulus in every column.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

brooks recasts real world problems as a morality play in his role as conservative apologist: every david brooks column

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

tho often i guess they are not so much real world problems as fake made up problems

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 21:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Today's helping, courtesy of a certain ilx alumnus: http://www.salon.com/2012/02/17/david_brooks_i_have_heard_of_jeremy_lin/singleton/

But even while grappling with the tension between religious values and contemporary cultural values, which is basically well within Brooks’ wheelhouse, he demonstrates a hilarious misunderstanding of sports, and what sports are “about,” because Mr. Brooks has been spending far too much time in his cloistered elite liberal media ivory tower munching on brie and arugula and not enough time among Real Americans in their “Sporting Taverns” watching “The Big Game” over a pint of mass-market domestic lager.

Spleen of Hearts (kingfish), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

suspect beating up brooks when u need an easy column will outlast "analyzing" linsanity/linreality tbh

the fading ghost of schadenfreude whiplash (Hunt3r), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

A few generations ago, teenagers went steady. But over the past decades, the dating relationship has been replaced by a more amorphous hook-up culture.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

a few generations ago, it was legal to marry a 15 year old

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

a few generations ago, interracial marriage was against the law

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

a few generations ago, bestiality was legal in Florida

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

The half-century between 1912 and 1962 was a period of great wars and economic tumult but also of impressive social cohesion. Marriage rates were high. Community groups connected people across class

In the half-century between 1962 and the present, America has become more prosperous, peaceful and fair, but the social fabric has deteriorated. Social trust has plummeted. Society has segmented. The share of Americans born out of wedlock is now at 40 percent and rising.

Ah, the good ol' days..... If only married people had kids, we could have impressive social cohesion and a strong social fabric like we did before 1961, when only men could get decent jobs and we kept those darned negroes out of our good schools, restaurants, and bus seats....

everything else is secondary (Lee626), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

beyond self-parody at this point

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't be a coincidence that his name is *this* close to douche-hat: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/opinion/sunday/douthat-the-safe-legal-rare-illusion.html

s.clover, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

First they went after the Rockefeller Republicans, but I was not a Rockefeller Republican. Then they went after the compassionate conservatives, but I was not a compassionate conservative. Then they went after the mainstream conservatives, and there was no one left to speak for me.

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Got pretty bummed because he's scheduled to speak at a conference I'll be attending next month, which meant I would have had to cover his talk for our org's magazine. Was dreading that. But turns out he's speaking at a luncheon during the conference, so I think I'm free of that burden!

andrew m., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

does your org have a rule against reporting on luncheons?

goole, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

one more liberal wanting a free ride!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

David Brooks making right-wingers angry:

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/02/28/is-david-brooks-comparing-the-tea-party-to-nazis/

I would also point out that the Rockefeller Republicans were losers and compassionate conservatism put us on the brink of financial ruin

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

the last half of the sentence OTM

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Similar statements were made about Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and John McCain.

maybe reagan but otherwise, no, child

goole, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

well ok W in 04 too

goole, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...
3 weeks pass...

The strategies covered here start from a similar premise—that human beings are blessed with many talents but are also burdened by sinfulness, ignorance and weakness, which is why I call on both parties for common sense solutions to our problems, the most notable of which is a cat o' nine tails.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 January 2013 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

We will pay special attention to those who attended elite prep schools and universities.

u don't say

flopson, Monday, 14 January 2013 23:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

someone please call his office phone

iatee, Monday, 14 January 2013 23:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Modern societies have become economically and socially more unequal. We will explore status competition and the desire for social distinction—executives who feel unabashed when asking for lavish salaries. We will ask whether it is proper to put a Yale window sticker on the back of your car. We will look at codes of social modesty and ask whether modest people make better business leaders

Mordy, Monday, 14 January 2013 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

some people say "undocumented workers from latin america," david brooks says "illegal aliens."

Treeship, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 01:55 (1 month ago) Permalink

man everything is so much worse than i always forget that it wasn't.

busted (art), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:56 (1 month ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I just love the title.

http://gawker.com/david-brooks-son-is-a-gigantic-bro-1644052311

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

That's kind of shitty and gross imo (to publish that, I mean).

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:51 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

the Podhoretz family is shitty and gross

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

dude's life is probably hard enough with such a sanctimonious moron as a father

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:08 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

The info's all from his Facebook page; if anyone's going to go "His privacy!" about this I'm going to ask about this wonderful world you live in which is not here.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:11 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

It's too bad about what Gawker has done to our world then

Milton Parker, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:16 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Privacy isn't the issue. Publishing a mocking article about someone who isn't in the public limelight and who hasn't done anything to deserve it is shitty and gross.

jmm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

dude's life is probably hard enough with such a sanctimonious moron as a father

― Οὖτις,

David Brooks' kid too.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

John Podhoretz, the son of former Commentary editor Norman Podhoretz, tweeted: “Everybody who thinks David Brooks has to ‘reveal’ his son, who’s 23, has joined the Israeli army can go fuck himself.”

yeah

the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

and hurting / jmm right about this cheapshit article

the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

And people who know me know I fucking hate David Brooks

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:39 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Gawker blows

brimstead, Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:48 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

It's definitely shitty and gross and I doubt anyone would be defending this if it was someone who wasn't the douchey son of a douchey columnist.

Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:06 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

fuck gawker

Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:10 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i don't think we know nearly enough about this kid to say he is "douchey" either. all i've gathered from that article is that he smiles a lot in photos.

Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:14 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

The info's all from his Facebook page; if anyone's going to go "His privacy!" about this I'm going to ask about this wonderful world you live in which is not here.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:11 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cool post

example (crüt), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:15 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Have any good stories about young J.B.? Hop in below or shoot us an email.

this addendum is the worst part

Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

like, they are actively soliciting material to use to smear this person, a private citizen, on a nationally popular website. how is this the same thing as facebook existing?

Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:24 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i think margaret sullivan made a legitimate point, but that's a long way from singling out someone who's not a public figure and writing an entire article (well, 'article') ridiculing him.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:26 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Also a lot of the stuff is just about his personal/social life, it's not like they're pointing out some Super PAC he runs or something.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:29 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

yeah, disclosing his relationship with the israeli army is totally different and unrelated from raiding his facebook profile for pictures and "likes" that encourage readers to make assumptions about what he is like as a person.

Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:35 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

It fits with Gawker/Jezebel's bad habit of trying to show that someone is a Bad Person instead of focussing on one egregious incident. It leaves a bad taste. If you think/know someone's done something wrong then stick to that - don't do an armchair audit of their whole life.

Re-Make/Re-Model, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:40 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

the gawker/jezebel tone is so toxic. it's weird to read an article i basically agree with (not this one) and still come away feeling gross.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

it's the plague of my generation

Treeship, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:52 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

haha

polyphonic, Thursday, 9 October 2014 20:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

The info's all from his Facebook page; if anyone's going to go "His privacy!" about this I'm going to ask about this wonderful world you live in which is not here.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, October 9, 2014 1:11 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok ned, i'll lift whatever info i can about you from the internet and write a high-profile piece for a major website mocking you. that's exactly the same thing as you having a facebook profile, right?

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

to be clear i will not actually do this to ned. i was just making a point.

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:14 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

The info's all from his Facebook page; if anyone's going to go "His privacy!" about this I'm going to ask about this wonderful world you live in which is not here.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, October 9, 2014 7:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Heart u Ned but come on, a private person putting stuff on Facebook doesn't make it ok for a big website or medium to use everything they can find to negatively profile someone just because his father is a douche. It's the stringing together of seemingly unrelated things to make up a profile fitting your idea of someone (or someone's father) that is the scariest thing about this.

definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 9 October 2014 23:26 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

David Brooks' son being in the Israeli army seems relevant at least to the extent that he does at times write about Israel. The rest of it is just kind of catty and pointless.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 00:31 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

FWIW, I've taken the responses on board and have been thinking off and on about it for the past half hour. The larger points about expectations of privacy/guilt-by-association are well taken. (Though frankly any guy from a fraternity who likes Tucker Max makes me a little skeeved separate from anything else; still, I'm not about to grill every last person who unironically likes the Chive or whatever.) And I'll admit the funniest part to me besides the headline, per Alfred's post, was Podhoretz fully embracing his bitter bastard persona at last; then again I did post the direct link so I can't not own that. Likely wouldn't post it now.

Still, though -- building off Milton Parker said, is it just the world that Gawker made or also something else? I keep thinking about news stories from all over the place essentially now regularly talking about photos on social media, posts, etc. when it comes to someone that figures in it, for whatever reason. I guess I'm more jaded than I realize but I honestly wasn't *surprised* that this could happen, and that may be my own burden to bear.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2014 00:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I guess I'm just kind of disappointed to see articles that amount to "Hey look at this fuggin guy," let alone about non-public figures.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 01:18 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

But that said, look at this fuggin guy:

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 10 October 2014 01:19 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


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