A thread for The Killing, aka much-lauded Danish drama "Forbrydelsen" (with spoilers)

Also the actors playing Nanna's parents were totally the best thing about this. And Meyer, I loved that guy.

Poor Meyer!

never trust a loyal confidante with no initial discernable plot function.

looool

Also I don't think Rie actually did anything wrong? Except maybe fucking that guy but equally maybe not. Hartman was just extremely paranoid at that point and a massive dick to her. But then he couldn't actually go back on that without hanging Weber out to dry, which would in turn break his career.

If I was a fictional citizen of Copenhagen I'd have been out on the streets in protest at the completely farcical state of my political system and police force but no one really seemed that arsed? And then Hartman just became mayor by default? Bit weird.

Does anyone know when the Killing 2 gets to be shown on the BBC? I thought it was scheduled for Autumn?

1st November according to someone on the Facebook page. DVD available on Amazon on 12th December.

1st november is a tuesday though. and these things are traditionally on the saturday.

they are currently showing the wallander films. last saturday was 'man who smiled' and next saturday is 'one step behind'. there are 2 more after that (firewall, pyramid) but the first is a two-parter. so i'd say the 5th or the 12th.

Sarah Lund fashion is so ubiquitous right now - I walked through a shopping centre today and saw nothing in windows but patterned knitwear.

tomorrow, bbc4 (and on front of radio times)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b017h80m

Beeb cuts back on sweariness

Don't think the swearing was particularly obtrusive in the first series - I don't think I even noticed any - but maybe I'm just desensitized to it.

I didn't notice it at all.

Thread needs Danes, are there any on ILX?

Didn't finish season one (got careless with the recording -- was on ep13), so just glad I can pick up on s2 independently of what happened, apart from a 'return from exile'.

Given some of the disussion from upthread it sounds like 10 eps is a good thing. Personally thought the 'this must be the guy' theory with any case falling apart by the end of the ep was a by product of putting a *day-by-day* investigation under the microscope. I was enjoying that.

Lund is not convinced
DURATION: 02:50
SERIES 2, EPISODE 10

Lund wants more information
DURATION: 01:13
SERIES 2, EPISODE 8

Lund pursuing suspect through an abattoir
DURATION: 02:36
SERIES 2, EPISODE 7

Where's the discussion for the 2nd season?! A lot more suspenseful than the 1st, I say. Possibly because death toll a lot higher.

ILX packed up during most of the month in which it was on hence the lack of discussion.

In the Sandox I said I enjoyed it, someone did say there were a lot of plot holes but I didn't get round to asking what those were - not that attentive, in need of repeats.

In the end I did like the political sub-plot although at the end 'the pact' just seemed like some sort political dark ages nonsense that was just placed there for Sarah to shoot to shit. But the politician was great, liked the shots of him strutting around with a toothbrush.

Also liked Sarah's reduced interaction w/her family. The whole 'no time for family' is a cliche I seldom care for in cop dramas however her scene w/parents in the taxi was the comic highlight (couldn't they go in separate taxis, sheesh!).

The reduction of episodes did allow for more suspense, felt trashier because of higher death toll, and I am always going to like that more.

**SPOLIER** One big plot hole was why did that one guy blow himself up? He was supposedly opposed to extremists and yet he kidnapped someone then detonated a suicide bomb. Didn't make a bit of sense, especially considering his innocence.

**More Spoliers** but wasn't he in a conspiracy with the Danish secret services, so the way I saw it was:

- He hated extreme islamists
- his crime was to let certain messages go by/not be interceted/flagged up, as this was an op that murdered Taliban informants (but also one in which innocents died)
- I think the kidnap/blowing himself up was to put all the guilty on himself, the guilty go free, allowing them to carry further naughty ops, killing more extremists. He didn't blow himself in a shaopping mall, it was an old military site where and no one else died

Anyone for Brogen?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2012/jan/06/the-killing-sanish-drama-borgen

Not sure its gonna work. There is a real taste for crime, really. Put in the politics, just don't forget to bring a corpse.

Sorry Borgen

I think the kidnap/blowing himself up was to put all the guilty on himself, the guilty go free, allowing them to carry further naughty ops, killing more extremists. He didn't blow himself in a shaopping mall, it was an old military site where and no one else died

The putting-all-the-guilt-on-himself bit sounds plausible, but don't forget he almost blew up two police officers and Raben's wife in the process. Can't remember the details of some of the other bits that seemed a bit dubious, gonna have to tease them out of the recesses of my brain.

The way I recall he let Raben's wife go w/ease then displayed the explosives allowing both Lund and Srange enough time to run off.

Any reports on Borgen? I might start watching this on iPlayer

V much liked episode 1, family dynamic excellently done. Not sure I have the attention for something politics based though. Both Lund's partners from Killing 1 & 2 are in this btw.

Yes, (Killing Spoiler!) I kept expecting Strange actor to go on a murder spree. Not sure the politics will be enough for me either. I do really like some of the characters though. The spin doctor guy looks to be a good baddie.

they've done ok, especially episode 4 where they moved beyond the coalition-building back and forth. i liked the greenland montage, for instance.

I've just finished the first episode of Bron/Broen or just 'Bridge'. It's got that Killing gloomy feel. Anticipating watching the second one. I did love Borgen in the end. I liked how she transitioned from unlikely politician to, lets just say 'learning on the job'. There should be a collective scandinavian tv thread!

I really enjoyed the first two episodes of Bridge, partly because it uses the same central plot device as Bon Cop, Bad Cop.

It has the same kind of Northern European industrial noir feeling as The Killing but there's lots of comedy there as well.

anyone watching the third series? why does no-one finish their sentences on this show?

Yes. Because that's standard realism-tool. No one finishes their sentences in

We don't have time for that now - we have to bring the entire department where the killer isn't

I watched it, but I still haven't seen the final two episodes. How far are they in UK?

the last 2 (of series 3) are on this saturday

i still love lund but the plot has gotten tiresome esp. the political aspect

Yeah the problem w/this last series is the whole thing being so tied up with the PM's office. Additonally never quite believing the outcome of the kidnap would've determined the outcome of the elections, or that the opposition would use the kidnapping to score political points as that has a danger of backfiring.

Then you have the ending...again, would Lund step outside the law here? Other possible endings on a postcard please.

Go to admire the craft to keep you watching.

On episode 12 season 1. It's gripping as hell, though the 'He did it! Oh wait he didn't' structure could wear thin soon.

Danes seem to like smoking indoors a lot don't they?

Season 1 > Season 2 > Season 3. Still, this one was was good though. With hunky Borch showing his love and Mark making amends, with his newborn it was only going one way for Lund.....

Loving the 1st season. Is it bad I watched 14 episodes in a day. I tried to stop, but I just had to know what happened next.

Only passing out from tiredness stopped me. I intend to finish the last 6 tonight. I have seasons 2 & 3 ready, but I will leave it at least a week before starting them.

I haven't read the thread as I don't want to know, but I think I have an idea who I want it to be/who it is...

it's so good. just finished the second series myself. the first series was excellent, but i think i enjoyed the second even more. making it 10 episodes instead of 20 was the right choice, it was a lot tighter with fewer loose ends/red herrings. i'm going to take some time before watching the third series.

currently watching the sort-of knockoff series broen/bron. the plot and characters are a bit more csi and less bleakly realistic, but it's good fun and having the action switch between malmø and copenhagen is a genius move.

i prefered Broen / Bron (The Bridge) purely because of the red herring thing in the killing.

The french thing, Spiral, also well worth a watch (4 series now)

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On to episode 20 now. I'll have to dig out Broen / Bron & Spiral.

Will report back in 59 minutes.

boo, my little drawing didn't work.

Excellent.

meyer's bananas

The Bridge is back on BBC 4! First two episodes were really good.

lol

— Did you forget to log off?

— No way! … I don't know

The Bridge is good. Martin's charachter seems to have a more sympathetic on Saga's Aspergers like traits in this series.

—Are you walking out on your mother's speech?
—Yes, that's exactly what she's doing.

i was enjoying how no one on danish tv is familiar to me, and then i start watching 'borgen' and there's lund's old partner meyer in a new role, doh