is it brostep?

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Thanks! I've been trying to recreate some chainsaw/brostep sounds in Reason as an experiment, and it's harder than it sounds. Some of those wobs are really tricky to pull off.

dog latin, Friday, 7 October 2011 11:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Last weekend, I dl'd a bunch of 2005-2011 era dubstep tracks off of the ilm "dubstep" thread. Then I dl'd Skrillex's BBC Essential Mix. Then I took them both out on some long car trips I had to take this week anyway. This helped immeasurably improve the dubstep experience for me because on my previous attempts to listen to it, I had just been listening through laptop speakers and those obviously don't capture the bass.

I liked them both well enough. There were a few places where Skrillex went off into real corny territory. I had done my best to get myself into the frame of mind of my 19-year-old self though, and from that perspective it felt like Christmas. It doesn't strike me as being terribly far off from Daft Punk or Underworld as far as enormous, mass-appeal dance music goes.

The "actual" dubstep I picked up was a mixture of different styles, from moody, atmospheric stuff to brash, noisy, dancehall-ish kinda numbers. Some of it had a lot of spirit, some of it was intensely boring. Based on what I've heard so far, I don't think that I prefer it to most of the drum n bass I was listening to back in the 90s.

piper at the goats of j0hn (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 7 October 2011 11:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

much of the dubstep I picked up was straight from this list:

dubstep

piper at the goats of j0hn (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

I had done my best to get myself into the frame of mind of my 19-year-old self though, and from that perspective it felt like Christmas. It doesn't strike me as being terribly far off from Daft Punk or Underworld as far as enormous, mass-appeal dance music goes.

totally agree. And tbh I rather wide eyed 'filthy bass' brostep kids to the angry hardcore 'mosh' kids that were everywhere when I was a teenager.

owenf, Friday, 7 October 2011 12:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

ohhhhh, but they're definitely moshing to brostep :/

piper at the goats of j0hn (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

poor attempts at moshing

owenf, Friday, 7 October 2011 12:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

for the most part, moshing has always been poor attempts at moshing. oblivious me thought that everybody would be over moshing now in 2011.

piper at the goats of j0hn (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

one would have hoped

owenf, Friday, 7 October 2011 12:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

psh says y'all

fauxmarc, Friday, 7 October 2011 13:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Nero totally fucked up "Crush On You" as my dope rediscovered 80s pop song of the year. :/

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Friday, 7 October 2011 15:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

amazing

psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Friday, 7 October 2011 17:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

So I dunno why it took me this long, but Justice were a huge influence on this stuff, right?

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Saturday, 8 October 2011 02:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, I'm hearing some French house production technique in some of it

Chris S, Saturday, 8 October 2011 04:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

The first wave of carpetbagging dubstep producers were mostly escaping the death of DnB, the second wave were almost all people getting out of the ass end of electrohouse.

I'm guessing Skrillex is the latter, what with the hair and the "complextro" or whatever he calls it.

pattern loader, Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

I find all of this pretty fun and non threatening really, when I was 19 I liked breakcore. Could totally see myself being into Skrillex if I was 19 too.

pattern loader, Saturday, 8 October 2011 11:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

i can see being 19 but i know mostly late 20's / early 30's into it. eh, breakcore's fine.

everything about this from visual to track to comments apropos lol

fauxmarc, Saturday, 8 October 2011 12:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

When Darkness Falls

1. Protocol X - Our Storm
2. Vex'd - Thunder
3. Distance - Koncrete
4. Emalkay - Gut Feeling
5. SPL - Lust
6. Lone Wolf - The Plague
7. Scarecrow - Snakes And Ladders
8. Aaron Spectre - Music is the Weapon
9. King Cannibal - Aragami Style
10. Milanese - Sight beyond Sight
11. Toasty - The Knowledge (vexd rmx)
12. Coki - Spongebob
13. 16Bit - Chainsaw Calligraphy
14. Reso - Armored Core
15. Skrillex - Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites
16. Noisia - Alpha Centauri (Excision & Datsik remix)
17. Pendulum - The Island (Statelapse Remix)
18. Plan B - The Recluse (Nero Remix)

meat to pleased you (flame grilled meat), Saturday, 8 October 2011 23:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

When Morning Comes

1. Boxcutter - Gave dub
2. Burial - Fostercare
3. Caspa & Rusko - Rock bottom
4. Fat Freddys Drop - Cay's Crays (Digital Mystikz Remix)
5. Conquest - Forever
6. d1 - Sorrow rmx
7. Hell Science Dept - Getto
8. James Blake - Air & Lack Thereof
9. Mala - Alicia
10. Phaeleh - Lounge
11. Pinch - Qawwali
12. Reso - Onsen
13. Scuba - Dream
14. Shackleton - In the void
15. Skream - Dutch flowerz
16. Vaccine - Wishful thinking vip
17. Von D - Show Me (feat. Phephe)
18. vvv - émeute

meat to pleased you (flame grilled meat), Sunday, 9 October 2011 00:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

but surely hipsters don't like this kind of stuff

Number None, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's not very gud.

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think that's why the "brostep" label doesn't really work properly either. Aren't "bros" somewhere between jocks and hipsters in the US? See this kind of thing as a natural category for one-time nu-metal/emo kids who I believe wouldn't call each other "bro". Something like Nu-Step or Stepcore would be more appropriate, surely?

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

It varies by area, but the general bro stereotype is a guy who uncritically loves dumb partying with male friends and has a generally dude-oriented view of life. There are jock bros, fraternity bros, hippie bros (lots of bros at jam band shows) and so on. Music that is kind of dumb and testosterone-heavy is pretty much prime bro territory.

( ) (mh), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

No! Really?

Tim F, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

well, it's not a term (or stereotype) that gets bandied around much in the UK as it does in other places, so in that context it makes sense.

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

ya rly

( ) (mh), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

"bruvstep"

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

"I may have lost a few fights, but I will fuckin shoot you blad"

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

but surely hipsters don't like this kind of stuff

still struggling to see what the definition of hipster is today (my daily psa to kill the term already) but if it can still be applied to your typical striped-shirt, tank-top and rayban-wearing williamsburg beardo, sure a good number do. i'm under the impression that the friday night girls and boys party at webster hall is run by these types

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but out-and-out hipsters (surely a dwindling breed in this climate?) would be more interested in the more leftfield side of things (James Blake and what not).

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Mainly lurk this thread but on the edge of my seat wanting to know what an "out-and-out" hipster is. Completely earnest btw.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

well, whatever, i only ever really hear about them on public forums, so..

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm not sure. also lots are into both this stuff and james blake

also i do use the bro term negatively but i'm mostly joshing, my first years out of college i lived with 3 guys from different parts of ohio that did nothing but talk about the cleveland browns, one of them had no music at all bought/copied/pirated or otherwise, i learned about livin' on a prayer from the other guys via fist-pumping drunk singalongs at fratty fake irish bars, we're still best friends, did all of their weddings etc - i'll bro down but i just won't get my brostep on because it is worse than all of that other stuff combined. or i'm a baby and can't handle my faceeeeee melttinggggg

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

On the topic of bros...to me a "pure bro" is what you describe above. Basically if music is a part of their life it's on some classic rock tip with a dash of U2 or a few other alternative-era leftovers with no real interest in contemporary music of any kind. Indie/hipster bros are more on some "I did too many drugs at an outdoor Fleet Foxes show and I might go to Pitchfork fest one day but Bonnaroo is good for me now" game. Fans of "brostep" are more like holdovers/breakouts from the Dim Mak/Steve Aoki party-til-you-puke "hard electro" end of the spectrum. That's what I think of when I think of brostep/Skrillex/etc.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Some tracks have basically turned those saw waves into pluck-harmonic guitars. I've tried to recreate this in Reason and it's kind of tricky to get right without making a mess

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 14:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

intellectbro

( ) (mh), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Some tracks have basically turned those saw waves into pluck-harmonic guitars.

the vibrato is the key, if you're talking about what i think you are.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

brostep is between dubstep and stepbro in my mind

blah blah blah, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

music for children of second marriages? shame (sic) no one's ever done a remix of this awful awful song:

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Bubba Ho-Step

owenf, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^ all time.

dog latin, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

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nakhchivan, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm late to the game but have been listening to Emika and Vex'd. What's my brostep quotient?

avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Thursday, 20 October 2011 01:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Not very bro-y, bro.

Number None, Thursday, 20 October 2011 02:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

I feel like James Blake is almost sensitive brostep. He is like a latter day sensitive indie dude in a masculine genre that bros can "be into" to get chicks.

avant-garde heterosexuals (mh), Thursday, 20 October 2011 02:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

the James Blake show i went to (to see my friends who were opening)....well, while the crowd was very straight and gross and lolcollege-looking, the bass....was....really....something else. motherfucker plays looooouuuuddd.

Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 October 2011 05:22 (3 years ago) Permalink


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