teengirl fantasy, miracles club, mi ami, 100% silk and the rise of HIPSTER HOUSE: S/D

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sorry to harp on about this but i don't think the mastering / pressing thing is an aesthetic choice but rather down to not really giving it much consideration.

dissident records sound great btw.

stirmonster, Friday, 7 October 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

Legowelt's record label is based in Portland now, I believe

blank, Friday, 7 October 2011 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

did he move to portland?

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 7 October 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno I just got an email from their mailing list last year saying they wouldn't be accepting orders for a month due to moving to Portland.
Most of the stuff on that label is just nice dark lofi ambient stuff, not all that jackin.

blank, Friday, 7 October 2011 02:57 (twelve years ago) link

I can see NNF folks being way into Legowelt's Smackos and Franz Falckenhaus stuff.

blank, Friday, 7 October 2011 03:01 (twelve years ago) link

which label?

funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 7 October 2011 03:07 (twelve years ago) link

legowelt does not live in portland

sorry to harp on about this but i don't think the mastering / pressing thing is an aesthetic choice but rather down to not really giving it much consideration.

this is pretty much what i said. process driven composition that puts little priority on dance-floor mastering.

ashra williams (san frandisco), Friday, 7 October 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

so 100% silk is putting out a 12" of peaking lights remixes huh

Lamp, Friday, 7 October 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

anyway i like this thread a lot, its like alien anthropology or s.thing, laptops in performance vs. laptops in dissemination idk

Lamp, Friday, 7 October 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

It's a nice twist, I must say.

moonship, his label is Strange Life

blank, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway, the whole DIY angle of this stuff is interesting. Techno/house is so intrinsically DIY, it's cool seeing different permutations of how that mentality is expressed.

blank, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link

wow all the stuff on that label sounds awesome so far. legowelt is one of those guys with an intimidatingly massive back catalog, and then when you throw side projects / related artists / stuff on his labels into the mix it's just insane

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Saturday, 8 October 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

if anyone has dug through it all and can give me a rough primer i would be v v grateful

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Saturday, 8 October 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

favorite track itt so far is that magic touch one (last youtube posted before this post)

i want to hear it on a big system so bad!!

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 8 October 2011 09:18 (twelve years ago) link

Magic touch best of the bunch imo

the men who stare at gotye (electricsound), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:09 (twelve years ago) link

What a weird thread to read. I've known the boys from Blondes since 2003, and was at the first Teengirl Fantasy show. Those boys raided my computer in 2007 & 2008, and I know Nick in some other ways ;-) ....so I dunno, I'm totally biased.

What I will say is that I saw Teengirl Fantasy twice in late September, and though the first night looked like lolcollege (they were opening for James Blake), the second night was....genuinely a gay, gay party scene. And in addition, Nick and Logan just tore the fucking roof off the place. It was the best live performance I've seen this year. A lot of their newer stuff sounds infinitely more....Detroit. Like one thing they played totally channeled Delano Smith's early work.

Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 October 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

also, does Ital dude still perform under the Sex Worker moniker? i fucking hope not.

Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 October 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

i'm sure i've seen "Sex Worker" but i remember nothing about it. I saw mi ami a bunch several years back, has their sound changed?

sarahel, Sunday, 9 October 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

^ yes, even since last year there has been a pretty big changeup

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Sunday, 9 October 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

it's not a HUGE changeup, they more or less just decided to use a drum machine instead of real drums, so maybe categorizing it as 'house' is a little misleading. the side project 12"s are the real change in direction imo

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Sunday, 9 October 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

i'm just starting to listen to a lot of this, to be honest

the whole concept makes me a little bit queasy

geeta, Monday, 10 October 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

I have to admit that I'm kind of into the promo 100% Silk videos for each release. Here's the new one for Malvoeaux - 'Sunsets'

Also, why queasy Geeta?

MikoMcha, Monday, 10 October 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

Also, why queasy Geeta?

First it was like:

http://youtu.be/igzcvcGudLY

And then it was like:

http://youtu.be/lNb8FyCaMBA

And now it is like this:

http://youtu.be/wzxvOgcGLmk

I am not even trying to be all like keep it real/2black2strong. This stuff is like a half ass retarded indie xerox of a slightly earlier well-executed xerox.

All Flowers Must Fade, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

good grief

make it stop

geeta, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:17 (twelve years ago) link

that third clip made me cry a little bit inside

i'm going to go back and listen to my early '90s new york house records

geeta, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

miracles club live = more fun than your *authentic* house records at home

like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not saying it's 'authentic'

i'm saying it's better music

geeta, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link

nah

Lamp, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

that miracles club video makes me want to have so many kids and buy so many SUVs

jaxon, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 05:18 (twelve years ago) link

haha

geeta, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 05:36 (twelve years ago) link

i'm not saying it's 'authentic'

i'm saying it's better music

― geeta, Monday, October 10, 2011 7:55 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

truth bomb

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 07:18 (twelve years ago) link

hercules and love affair and miracles club vids came out in the same year fwiw

just saw mc (not for the first time) last night, and the new stuff is great. more pianos, less acid lines, weird sense of "is this a cover? i feel like i've heard this before" but still pretty great. they had 2 dancers, the usual mime-ish dude that is amazing and i think an official part of the 'club' and another buffed out muscle dude who just kinda flexed a lot. so much better live than h&la.

also- comparing this stuff to old house records is such a ridiculous point. fucking of course the classics are better but it's not like anyone has chances to go see robert owens or jamie principle or whoever play live in 2011. and the few times i have seen dj sets by the artists listed in this thread they played almost exclusively 80s and early 90s house jams so no reason to complain imo. there is a definite sense of reverence for the older stuff even if something like the church song video feels silly and ironic

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 07:19 (twelve years ago) link

comparing this stuff to old house records is such a ridiculous point.

There's plenty people right now making dance music as good as whatever old house records tho and this......well, this ain't it.

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 07:22 (twelve years ago) link

the reverend OTM

geeta, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 07:28 (twelve years ago) link

Compelling arguments.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 07:29 (twelve years ago) link

i need to go to bed - i was at the occupy boston protests (i left right before the mass arrests) and it's almost 4 AM

but the tracks i've heard from this genre thus far just aren't very good--they sound like b-sides or outtakes of '80s house tracks. the retro videos are mildly entertaining, but there's this ironic, distanced hipster stance that i find hard to swallow.

your mileage may vary, of course

ok, i really need to go to bed now

geeta, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 07:45 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, i agree that there is better contemporary dance music out there than what is being talked about itt for sure. that doesn't make dancing to live 909s and vaguely familiar synth lines any less fun imo

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 07:49 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think anyone is arguing that this is the best thing happening in dance music at the moment, it's just in my backyard and people actually come to the shows and i see no rational reason not to support it beyond "ewww hipsteres"

it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 08:04 (twelve years ago) link

standard NNF tropical Italo dub

i try to excise "hipster" from the dialogue past 2kwhenever but if forced to think about "hipster house" i immediately think of the slackjawed italo+boogie that hardcore/indie rock kids-cum-djs seem to default to which a lot of the youtubes in here seem to cover... but then there's some of them are like that first octo octa posted which is fine more "future-type stuff - as is a lot of what DIS covers. the two areas don't really overlap for me.

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sXtAjnUl3U

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link

first thing i thought of when i read "hipster house"

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1355

doesn't really fit in this thread now i've seen what's being discussed, but i like it. has the noise scene connections

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 10:10 (twelve years ago) link

i am trying to hear the ironic distanced hipster stance in these tracks and i cant hear it!

max, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 12:41 (twelve years ago) link

and fwiw the artists on this thread have always struck me as serious crate-digging obsessives--they may not be "authentic" but their appreciation for real-deal old-school house is about as far from "ironic" as u can get

max, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

just seeing this now...

l.i.e.s isn't DC but NY, and like their buddies W.T., they were punk kids at some point, but have been into house/techno for at least a decade plus. They come from a harder techno/electro background, used to hang out with Legowelt and Creme Org type folk.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

ok, just read most of this thread on the train to work.

While it's true that so many of the influencing records were mastered shitty and there may be a bit of punk rock fuck it just put it out attitude, I agree with Stirmonster (as usual, except when discussing hi-nrg and Modern Romance) that I think most of these people, at least the more hipster side of things, just don't know better, hadn't really considered it, or couldn't afford it. With care they can make records that sound good while still not sounding like a Benny Bennasi record or whatever.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

ha ha! i have a confession to make dan. i have finally come round to the charms of modern romance after managing to excise the childhood trauma of watching "ay ay ay ay moosey" on top of the pops.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

Blue Rondo a la Turk revival next!

dan selzer, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

I would like to add/give props to the fact that Hipster House is/may be responsible for returning house to it's roots...not just/only due to superficial aesthetic similarities to the old stuff, but the fact that old house was very catholic and strange. What we talk about now as yr standard/typical "house" is nice and all, but it's a sound that's been codified for years that mostly has stripped out those awesome sources, the Anne Clark's Our Darkness and Los Ninos del Parque and all the other weird shit that helped make house and techno so fresh in the beginning.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

geeta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrW_v3qrvmU

matt2, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link


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