ital uses a laptop, yes, but a lot of these acts don't. i have no idea what it'd sound like with better mastering, i guess the future times/l.i.e.s. stuff is an example of this tho
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
feel like the differences between these guys and more conventional house producers run deeper than just "these guys use synths" and "these guys use software"
this is absolutely true, i was referring to fidelity tho
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
but less chilled than future times
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
iirc the ital stuff is done on a computer but the mi ami record was done under a specific remit to use hardware samplers or trackers or something
sort of enjoy the notion of house sonics being explored by people who are more promiscuous in terms of production/process, fetishizing the sound of old house records in a more abstract way than retro-minded producers elsewhere that fetishize the hardware that was used to make them or in the case of the NYC necro-disco hotel lounge edit house thing, samples of the records themselves
― james brooks, Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:32 (twelve years ago) link
the case of the NYC necro-disco hotel lounge edit house thing
^^ new thread?!?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
saw this stuff described as "art-school techno" in a review today
― the men who stare at gotye (electricsound), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
link?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
sort of enjoy the notion of house sonics being explored by people who are more promiscuous in terms of production/process
Is this comparison limited to the examples you then cite? Or just a general statement?
Because i don't think house music is particularly afflicted by a lack of sonic promiscuity.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.yellowgreenred.com/
ctrl+f innergaze
― the men who stare at gotye (electricsound), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
what is necro-disco?!?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.drben.net/files/China/Source_Materials/BooksALL/Communism/Mao-ManNotGod-FrThQ.jpg
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
whoops wrong thread
TS: standard tropical Italo dub vs NYC necro-disco hotel lounge edit house
― psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:54 (twelve years ago) link
i want to hear this impossibly exotic-sounding yet no doubt totally mundane crap house music!
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
― Tim F, Thursday, October 6, 2011 6:47 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark
yr right i take it back nvm
― james brooks, Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
he probably means wolf and lamb
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link
again, i think a lot of this is about process and a lot of aversion to the use of laptops in performances (it's a philosophy i also subscribe to in my compositions). steve summers for instance will use only hardware on his performances and for his remixes he will do a single take using his live setup. the use of shhhh sounds for hats and other lo-fi sampling/production techniques is very true to house's roots as well, which is where i believe the philosophy derives. there's an idolization of people like rick wilhite who did not have access to serious mastering techniques and much of his stuff was legitimate bedroom studio production. whether these artists have access to mastering or the funds to spend on it is another question, but i feel like that is where the inspiration comes from.
― ashra williams (san frandisco), Thursday, 6 October 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
necro house must mean like art department or wolf + lamb black
standard italo dub ... is that like social disco club?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 7 October 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
but like i said there are connections to the more traditional house scene. On The Prowl just came out with a release on their sublabel Let's Play House (inspired by the monthly of the same name) that features a beautiful swimmers remix of a Runaway track. Runaway is undoubtedly part of the more refined sounding house music, but they don't perform live and neither do Beautiful Swimmers. all of these people are running in very close circles and we are a small community of like-minded individuals but people are doing very different things.
― ashra williams (san frandisco), Friday, 7 October 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think H&LA and Wolf + Lamb really belong itt
I thought Wolf + Lamb were being cited as a negative point of comparison.
― Tim F, Friday, 7 October 2011 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
house producers have been fetishizing the past since forever, and altho the necro-disco comment almost makes sense within the context of that post i agree that h&la and w+l do not belong here at all
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Friday, 7 October 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
sorry to harp on about this but i don't think the mastering / pressing thing is an aesthetic choice but rather down to not really giving it much consideration.
dissident records sound great btw.
― stirmonster, Friday, 7 October 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
Legowelt's record label is based in Portland now, I believe
― blank, Friday, 7 October 2011 01:50 (twelve years ago) link
did he move to portland?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 7 October 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno I just got an email from their mailing list last year saying they wouldn't be accepting orders for a month due to moving to Portland. Most of the stuff on that label is just nice dark lofi ambient stuff, not all that jackin.
― blank, Friday, 7 October 2011 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
I can see NNF folks being way into Legowelt's Smackos and Franz Falckenhaus stuff.
― blank, Friday, 7 October 2011 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
which label?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Friday, 7 October 2011 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
legowelt does not live in portland
this is pretty much what i said. process driven composition that puts little priority on dance-floor mastering.
― ashra williams (san frandisco), Friday, 7 October 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
so 100% silk is putting out a 12" of peaking lights remixes huh
― Lamp, Friday, 7 October 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link
anyway i like this thread a lot, its like alien anthropology or s.thing, laptops in performance vs. laptops in dissemination idk
― Lamp, Friday, 7 October 2011 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
It's a nice twist, I must say.
moonship, his label is Strange Life
― blank, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway, the whole DIY angle of this stuff is interesting. Techno/house is so intrinsically DIY, it's cool seeing different permutations of how that mentality is expressed.
― blank, Friday, 7 October 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
wow all the stuff on that label sounds awesome so far. legowelt is one of those guys with an intimidatingly massive back catalog, and then when you throw side projects / related artists / stuff on his labels into the mix it's just insane
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Saturday, 8 October 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link
if anyone has dug through it all and can give me a rough primer i would be v v grateful
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Saturday, 8 October 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
favorite track itt so far is that magic touch one (last youtube posted before this post)
i want to hear it on a big system so bad!!
― ⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 8 October 2011 09:18 (twelve years ago) link
Magic touch best of the bunch imo
― the men who stare at gotye (electricsound), Saturday, 8 October 2011 10:09 (twelve years ago) link
What a weird thread to read. I've known the boys from Blondes since 2003, and was at the first Teengirl Fantasy show. Those boys raided my computer in 2007 & 2008, and I know Nick in some other ways ;-) ....so I dunno, I'm totally biased.
What I will say is that I saw Teengirl Fantasy twice in late September, and though the first night looked like lolcollege (they were opening for James Blake), the second night was....genuinely a gay, gay party scene. And in addition, Nick and Logan just tore the fucking roof off the place. It was the best live performance I've seen this year. A lot of their newer stuff sounds infinitely more....Detroit. Like one thing they played totally channeled Delano Smith's early work.
― Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 October 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
also, does Ital dude still perform under the Sex Worker moniker? i fucking hope not.
― Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 October 2011 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
i'm sure i've seen "Sex Worker" but i remember nothing about it. I saw mi ami a bunch several years back, has their sound changed?
― sarahel, Sunday, 9 October 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
^ yes, even since last year there has been a pretty big changeup
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Sunday, 9 October 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
uh, yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iWvj4UQ8zQ
― Sophomore subs are the new Smith lesbians. (the table is the table), Sunday, 9 October 2011 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
it's not a HUGE changeup, they more or less just decided to use a drum machine instead of real drums, so maybe categorizing it as 'house' is a little misleading. the side project 12"s are the real change in direction imo
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Sunday, 9 October 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
i'm just starting to listen to a lot of this, to be honest
the whole concept makes me a little bit queasy
― geeta, Monday, 10 October 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
I have to admit that I'm kind of into the promo 100% Silk videos for each release. Here's the new one for Malvoeaux - 'Sunsets'
Also, why queasy Geeta?
― MikoMcha, Monday, 10 October 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
First it was like:
http://youtu.be/igzcvcGudLY
And then it was like:
http://youtu.be/lNb8FyCaMBA
And now it is like this:
http://youtu.be/wzxvOgcGLmk
I am not even trying to be all like keep it real/2black2strong. This stuff is like a half ass retarded indie xerox of a slightly earlier well-executed xerox.
― All Flowers Must Fade, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link
good grief
make it stop
― geeta, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
that third clip made me cry a little bit inside
i'm going to go back and listen to my early '90s new york house records
― geeta, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:21 (twelve years ago) link
miracles club live = more fun than your *authentic* house records at home
― like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not saying it's 'authentic'
i'm saying it's better music
― geeta, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link