is it brostep?

er, 4:26

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I guess I might be extrapolating Shackleton's later stuff to his early ones. He kind of had the Mordant Music thing, then the Shackleton/Appleblim Skull Disco roadshow, right?

I mostly know him for his Skull Disco stuff.

so i was at the punk rock pizza shop, and looking at all the fliers on the wall, and buried in amongst 1000s of indie / punk / hardcore shows and 100s of indie / electro / hip hop i see two lonely DUBSTEP nights, both at the same club, a place on the edge of downtown popular with yelpers and style bloggers that programs "hip hop / reggae / funk / soul" or "indie / electro" or "house / tech house" every other night of the month.

the first crew is called SNIPAZ

the second crew is called MAYHEM

which do i go see?

SNIPAZ will prob have more girls & ppl on drugs but MAYHEM will prob be more of a spectacle

Someone put Shackleton over that "Sorry For Partying" vid.

a lot of the songs on this thread weren't on spotify, but here is a brostep playlist: http://bit.ly/rk0QC1
enjoy, bros. also what ever you do do not listen to the pandora dubstep station.

Thanks! I've been trying to recreate some chainsaw/brostep sounds in Reason as an experiment, and it's harder than it sounds. Some of those wobs are really tricky to pull off.

Last weekend, I dl'd a bunch of 2005-2011 era dubstep tracks off of the ilm "dubstep" thread. Then I dl'd Skrillex's BBC Essential Mix. Then I took them both out on some long car trips I had to take this week anyway. This helped immeasurably improve the dubstep experience for me because on my previous attempts to listen to it, I had just been listening through laptop speakers and those obviously don't capture the bass.

I liked them both well enough. There were a few places where Skrillex went off into real corny territory. I had done my best to get myself into the frame of mind of my 19-year-old self though, and from that perspective it felt like Christmas. It doesn't strike me as being terribly far off from Daft Punk or Underworld as far as enormous, mass-appeal dance music goes.

The "actual" dubstep I picked up was a mixture of different styles, from moody, atmospheric stuff to brash, noisy, dancehall-ish kinda numbers. Some of it had a lot of spirit, some of it was intensely boring. Based on what I've heard so far, I don't think that I prefer it to most of the drum n bass I was listening to back in the 90s.

much of the dubstep I picked up was straight from this list:

dubstep

I had done my best to get myself into the frame of mind of my 19-year-old self though, and from that perspective it felt like Christmas. It doesn't strike me as being terribly far off from Daft Punk or Underworld as far as enormous, mass-appeal dance music goes.

totally agree. And tbh I rather wide eyed 'filthy bass' brostep kids to the angry hardcore 'mosh' kids that were everywhere when I was a teenager.

ohhhhh, but they're definitely moshing to brostep :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_8gyCeXbw

poor attempts at moshing

for the most part, moshing has always been poor attempts at moshing. oblivious me thought that everybody would be over moshing now in 2011.

one would have hoped

psh says y'all

Nero totally fucked up "Crush On You" as my dope rediscovered 80s pop song of the year. :/

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/remaining-doors-members-record-with-skrillex-for-new-documentary-20111006

i

..can't

amazing

So I dunno why it took me this long, but Justice were a huge influence on this stuff, right?

yeah, I'm hearing some French house production technique in some of it

The first wave of carpetbagging dubstep producers were mostly escaping the death of DnB, the second wave were almost all people getting out of the ass end of electrohouse.

I'm guessing Skrillex is the latter, what with the hair and the "complextro" or whatever he calls it.

I find all of this pretty fun and non threatening really, when I was 19 I liked breakcore. Could totally see myself being into Skrillex if I was 19 too.

i can see being 19 but i know mostly late 20's / early 30's into it. eh, breakcore's fine.

everything about this from visual to track to comments apropos lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbPjiJ-4jMA

When Darkness Falls

1. Protocol X - Our Storm
2. Vex'd - Thunder
3. Distance - Koncrete
4. Emalkay - Gut Feeling
5. SPL - Lust
6. Lone Wolf - The Plague
7. Scarecrow - Snakes And Ladders
8. Aaron Spectre - Music is the Weapon
9. King Cannibal - Aragami Style
10. Milanese - Sight beyond Sight
11. Toasty - The Knowledge (vexd rmx)
12. Coki - Spongebob
13. 16Bit - Chainsaw Calligraphy
14. Reso - Armored Core
15. Skrillex - Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites
16. Noisia - Alpha Centauri (Excision & Datsik remix)
17. Pendulum - The Island (Statelapse Remix)
18. Plan B - The Recluse (Nero Remix)

When Morning Comes

1. Boxcutter - Gave dub
2. Burial - Fostercare
3. Caspa & Rusko - Rock bottom
4. Fat Freddys Drop - Cay's Crays (Digital Mystikz Remix)
5. Conquest - Forever
6. d1 - Sorrow rmx
7. Hell Science Dept - Getto
8. James Blake - Air & Lack Thereof
9. Mala - Alicia
10. Phaeleh - Lounge
11. Pinch - Qawwali
12. Reso - Onsen
13. Scuba - Dream
14. Shackleton - In the void
15. Skream - Dutch flowerz
16. Vaccine - Wishful thinking vip
17. Von D - Show Me (feat. Phephe)
18. vvv - émeute

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NCSThQHgvz0/TX1lXz26KOI/AAAAAAAAANM/MjDgh3G9Mt4/s1600/tumblr_lgdcmxy6HZ1qaqka2o1_1280.jpg

but surely hipsters don't like this kind of stuff

yeah, it's not very gud.

i think that's why the "brostep" label doesn't really work properly either. Aren't "bros" somewhere between jocks and hipsters in the US? See this kind of thing as a natural category for one-time nu-metal/emo kids who I believe wouldn't call each other "bro". Something like Nu-Step or Stepcore would be more appropriate, surely?

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbusf0NK6v1qe7oxqo1_500.jpg

It varies by area, but the general bro stereotype is a guy who uncritically loves dumb partying with male friends and has a generally dude-oriented view of life. There are jock bros, fraternity bros, hippie bros (lots of bros at jam band shows) and so on. Music that is kind of dumb and testosterone-heavy is pretty much prime bro territory.

No! Really?

well, it's not a term (or stereotype) that gets bandied around much in the UK as it does in other places, so in that context it makes sense.

ya rly

"bruvstep"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXHLybTW2dI

"I may have lost a few fights, but I will fuckin shoot you blad"

but surely hipsters don't like this kind of stuff

still struggling to see what the definition of hipster is today (my daily psa to kill the term already) but if it can still be applied to your typical striped-shirt, tank-top and rayban-wearing williamsburg beardo, sure a good number do. i'm under the impression that the friday night girls and boys party at webster hall is run by these types

Yeah, but out-and-out hipsters (surely a dwindling breed in this climate?) would be more interested in the more leftfield side of things (James Blake and what not).

Mainly lurk this thread but on the edge of my seat wanting to know what an "out-and-out" hipster is. Completely earnest btw.

well, whatever, i only ever really hear about them on public forums, so..

yeah i'm not sure. also lots are into both this stuff and james blake

also i do use the bro term negatively but i'm mostly joshing, my first years out of college i lived with 3 guys from different parts of ohio that did nothing but talk about the cleveland browns, one of them had no music at all bought/copied/pirated or otherwise, i learned about livin' on a prayer from the other guys via fist-pumping drunk singalongs at fratty fake irish bars, we're still best friends, did all of their weddings etc - i'll bro down but i just won't get my brostep on because it is worse than all of that other stuff combined. or i'm a baby and can't handle my faceeeeee melttinggggg

On the topic of bros...to me a "pure bro" is what you describe above. Basically if music is a part of their life it's on some classic rock tip with a dash of U2 or a few other alternative-era leftovers with no real interest in contemporary music of any kind. Indie/hipster bros are more on some "I did too many drugs at an outdoor Fleet Foxes show and I might go to Pitchfork fest one day but Bonnaroo is good for me now" game. Fans of "brostep" are more like holdovers/breakouts from the Dim Mak/Steve Aoki party-til-you-puke "hard electro" end of the spectrum. That's what I think of when I think of brostep/Skrillex/etc.

Some tracks have basically turned those saw waves into pluck-harmonic guitars. I've tried to recreate this in Reason and it's kind of tricky to get right without making a mess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx2nH2RJEAA

intellectbro

Some tracks have basically turned those saw waves into pluck-harmonic guitars.

the vibrato is the key, if you're talking about what i think you are.

brostep is between dubstep and stepbro in my mind

music for children of second marriages? shame (sic) no one's ever done a remix of this awful awful song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yERDDbP53Sw

Bubba Ho-Step