Wouldn't Pictureplane be a bit too silly (that's a description not a diss) and indebted to stuff like rave and jungle for this group?
― Tim F, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
Also, some of these artists aren't just releasing hipster house - the Xander Harris album is standard NNF tropical Italo dub iirc.
― psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:57 (twelve years ago) link
the XH album is like that for sure but the single on 100% silk is different and pretty rad imo. and yes pictureplane is p silly, it's probably useful to establish some boundaries here lol
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
ha ha ha imagine someone saying "standard tropical italo dub" in 1994
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
i see a few connections to IDIB but i see the real spiritual successor to IDIB in soft metals. this stuff is a little more out there. anyways, here is my favorite hipster-house song and video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2_6qL0GZrE
― fennel cartwright, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
whiney is gonna frickin hate it
― fennel cartwright, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
nice t-shirt
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
(^ that ital track is posted upthread too, with sexy 100% silk jacket. when i saw him live he introduced it with "here's a little something i wrote for you guys..." or something along those lines)
for whatever reason the progression of honey owens is v interesting to me and telling of this scene in general: starts out in experimental noise collective jackie o motherfucker, moves on to ethereal droney stuff as valet, then decides to cover mr fingers tunes as miracles club
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
xp - my point was just that some of these artists have a dilettantish approach to house material, they only sometimes put on their house hat.
― psychedelicatessen (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
yea everything about this thread is whiney bait tbf
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah daniel martin-mccormick has a cool progression too. i still like mi ami the best but his ital detour is pretty fun
― fennel cartwright, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
hmmm i don't want to diss a female electronic artist but imho honey owens getting into mr fingers tunes might be down to the adam forkner connection, he's been doing synth-heavy stuff for like 5 years now
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
valet >>> miracles club, too
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
speaking of valet, nobody replied to this: honey owens / adam forkner free folk power couple appreciation thread
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
idk i was asking forkner at what the heck fest about house/techno/if he djed at all and he pretty much avoided the question, then proceeded to stand behind the dj booth all night at the local bar where some k-rec's ppl were djing, twiddling knobs and acting v interested (and i recently saw that him and calvin johnson are starting to do some dance night at holocene together wtf). he's doing 90s rnb revival stuff as purple and green now tho, which is interesting for different reasons (also the singer is amazing)
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah, i dunno if elite gymnastics fully qualifies as hipster-house but they're in that ballpark i think.
it might just be a good idea to lump all DIS magazine stuff into "hipster-house"
― fennel cartwright, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah i really like the two valet records, and the last song on the 2nd album definitely hints at this direction
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hC8MOYoYQk
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
err...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hC8MOYoYQk
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
a lot of this stuff just reeeeeeeeeeeeks of portland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmV31r6-IW8
i guess someone who used to be in glass candy is involved w/that, to make the connection to idib even more obvious
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
feel like first-wave IDIB is absolutely the antecedent of 100% silk in every applicable sense, johnny jewel from glass candy started out making noise/drone as twenty-six and iirc used to brag in interviews about palling around with wolf eyes, pretty much blazing the trail from noise/lo-fi to dance that many of the people named itt are currently following
easy to look at 100% silk as filling the void IDIB left when glass candy and chromatics went on hiatus and the label mostly just put out nu-disco 12s that could have just as easily come out on dfa or permanent vacation, wouldn't be surprised if that's how they saw themselves, glass candy and jewel's solo "mystery producer" mirage singles seem like the template for so much of it
― james brooks, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
i guess to some extent the early dfa connections to no wave / black dice / six finger sattelite are the beginnings of this template, and i have no doubts that you could reach much further back than that if you wanted to.
but yeah, james brooks otm
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
another thing that had me torn is when i read about ital's production technique
part of me is like whoa, that's really cool, but part of me is like, why? and then all of me answers its because someone spent a lot of time in critique sessions talking about *process*
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
where did you read about that? i am curious (he kept deliberately unplugging the cord from the headphone jack at the aforementioned show, aiming for sooome type of effect i presume but it sounded awful and everyone was just sorta confused)
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
what's his production technique like?
― Darren Huckerby (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
Surely 100% Silk is the house to IDIB's disco? The Silk stuff is far more trackier. And I'm just going to throw in the Invisible Conga People are easily my favourite act from this axis.
― Jedmond, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
Ital's production technique is discussed here: http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/podcast/lwe-podcast-97-ital/
― Jedmond, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
I think IDIB is more connected to 70s and 80s disco and early house/techno, whereas this stuff is a further rooted in the 90s when house and techno were more established.
That video for Miracles Club "Church Song" looks so much fun, one for the "videos I want to live inside of" thread. It was the song I was dancing around my kitchen too a few weeks ago when I accidentally broke a glass and stood on it, so now it has a bittersweet connotation for me.
Can we also join the dots between this stuff and: "My Girls"; Delorean; Sincerely Yours (the record label); John Talabot?
― ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
alexis blair penney is worth checking out too- pretty embedded in the aunt charlies queen scene in sf, most of her album is being produced by teengirl fantasy, this remix is p nice imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5gBd4YN8eQ
fellow ilxor sanfrandisco is working with her on something too (hope it's ok to mention that!)
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
i wish some of these artists would take mastering and pressing quality a little more seriously as they often sound dreadful on a club system.
― stirmonster, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean i didn't mean to imply that 100% silk was just a rote continuation of the exact music IDIB started out releasing, more just like picking up the ball that IDIB sorta dropped when they turned into a comparatively standard-issue nu-disco/edits label
always got the sense that glass candy/chromatics really resisted any attempts to be connected to the larger context of what else was going on in music at the time, refusing for example to allow official remixes or cooperate with warp or dfa or any of the other labels that were absolutely pursuing them
sorta feel like maybe anyone who was a fan of theirs that followed that worldview would have valued not the fact that they referenced disco but that they approached dance music in general from a point of view that was more in line with the ethos of noise/punk/DIY music than anything people actually played in clubs
like to think of 100% silk as those people, who maybe always assumed IDIB would continue to explore that approach and follow the natural progression of influences from 80's disco to 90's house, and ended up deciding to do it themselves once it became clear IDIB wasn't ever going to get around to it
― james brooks, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't meant to suggest otherwise - just to point out how 100% provide a continuum in more than just one way.
― Jedmond, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
it's probably deliberate in some examples but that doesn't make this point any less valid
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
i wish all artists would take mastering and pressing quality a little more seriously as they often sound dreadful full stop
― the men who stare at gotye (electricsound), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah absolutely, amanda brown even sounds enough like ida no on some of those recent la vampires collaborative EPs that they almost function as elseworlds alternate universe glass candy singles that plug different influences into the same basic approach for kicks
― james brooks, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:37 (twelve years ago) link
I'm actually a little hesitant to almost dismiss stuff like the artists on 100% Silk with a name like "hipster house" (not that that was necessarily the intention here)... that area involves your more psych-y/post-drone types... who for my take tend to be a little more involved and experimental than the usual "LOLindies-going-____".
besides, the psychedelic tendency to mess with the form is a way things can mutate and evolve, so I'm kinda feeling it, actually. Maria Minerva is one of my favorite things out there right now
― Chris S, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
those maria minerva releases sound a lot like nite jewel with worse recording equipment
i think a lot of ppl in this thread (me too obv) are 'feeling it', so i do apologize for a potentially pejorative term. but it is effective, no?
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
throwing a dash of the h-word in the title of any thread is a proven recipe for getting a lot posts
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
Well "The indie end of the noise spectrum having a go at house thread" is a bit banal for a title.
― Jedmond, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
i really like the magic touch 12", but i am a huge jonas reinhardt fan so
― the men who stare at gotye (electricsound), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
i know and have had pleasant, friendly interactions with a lot of these ppl so i can only hope the term wouldn't piss them off (it probably would to a degree but it's all in the name of META). i *do* want this stuff to take off tho because it is one of the only things i care much about in the musical world of pdx (besides mississippi records of course)
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
i think the point I was trying to make in my earlier post (quoted in the question for this thread) is that this stuff codes as "hipster" in ways that I'm almost tempted to call objective - rather than the kind of pedigree-based "oh this person is a poser"/"lolindie" implication of the word which can only ever be relational to the speaker.
Objective significations of hipsterism in this material:
1) faux-period sleeve art;
2) faux-period monikers (not "Teengirl Fantasy" which is hipster in a different way, but definitely "100% Silk", "Miracles Club", "Magic Touch", "Ital"); and
3) notwithstanding (1) and (2), an air (sonically and discursively) of distance from the very things that (1) and (2) mimic, not superiority or even necessarily straight sonic differentiation, rather a sense that the original artifact is defined by its aura of inacessibility and unreproduceability - a time of lost innocence etc. etc.
basically 100% Silk : early house :: Stereolab : space age bachelor pad music.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://images.hhv.de/catalog/old_detail/00247/247914.jpg
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
its okay to be a hipster guys
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, for sure, guess I just wanted to note the distinction since I'm see a lot of merit in some of the stuff, and 'hipster' does have its connotations... but yeah I see where you're coming from. xxxxpost
― Chris S, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
I don't mind being a hipster! I just like to break down how the term works in particular cases b/c it's got a million different meanings.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
Especially considering it's broadest meaning is basically people younger than the speaker who aren't bogans.
― Jedmond, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
said elsewhere on ilx, but I kind of know one of these dudes
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 6 October 2011 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
you know a hipster?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:10 (twelve years ago) link
'this stuff was covered already on the chillwave thread' - some annoyed msgbrdr
― my other display name is my facebook status (Lamp), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
chillwave i love you but i've chosen hipster house
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:54 (twelve years ago) link
beardo (tm)
― the late great, Saturday, 1 December 2012 07:58 (eleven years ago) link
'Post house' makes sense, especially when applied to Ital. TLG - i agree it's strange I should be making these complaints as an IDM head, but somehow I have trouble mapping this stuff onto the same values as Warp-style artists. This record is shamblingly scruffy in every way - sometimes it stumbles into the sublime, but more often keels over into incompetency. Most of the time it walks this tightrope over both of them.In a way I guess this guy is approaching noise music from a dance perspective, a bit like Black Dice have more recently doing vice versa. But I'm just having trouble parsing it - I should like it on these terms, but there's just something unpleasant and sickly, maybe something about the overall frequency of the record (lots of grainy midrange) that I seem to have an aversion to.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Saturday, 1 December 2012 09:35 (eleven years ago) link
live right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoSsnOAtNyE#!
― caek, Friday, 15 February 2013 06:52 (eleven years ago) link
Teengirl Fantasy live tonight at the Brooklyn Museum of Art. Also the hipster disco band Midnight Magic and the hipster DJ Dan Selzer. Also custom nail art inspired by work in the museum. Sponsored by hipster online "radio" station VIva Radio.
http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/calendar/event/6274
― dan selzer, Thursday, 16 May 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
That reminds me, this track:
https://soundcloud.com/100percentsilk/pharaohs-miraculous-feet
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 16 May 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
I dig some of the Pharaohs stuff. I think one ep on ESP? Speaking of which, my favorite new school house/techno dude somewhat of this ilk is Young Marco. Maybe I mentioned that already. 2 12"s I think on ESP, he's the house designer for Rush Hour I think? His stuff has that pretty techno vibe I love.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 16 May 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
Oh yeah, that Young Marco mix is really great from the mixes thread.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 16 May 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
Yeah it's amazing. The Boiler Room set is cool too.
― ... (LocalGarda), Thursday, 16 May 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
This has been my retro house jam recently:
https://soundcloud.com/brutal-music-1/justin-velor-back-to-the
(Longer album version on Spotify is even better)
― scintilla (seandalai), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
the coyote cleanup album is pretty good, silk fans. stream here:
http://www.dummymag.com/new-music/2013/05/01/coyote-clean-up-2-hot-2-wait-album-stream/
― ... (LocalGarda), Friday, 17 May 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
new octo octa streaming : D
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feed-item.aspx?id=64162
― cholo naco y super gallo (wolves lacan), Monday, 20 May 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link
Really enjoyed the Pharaohs album while walking home from work in the sun today.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 20 May 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
alex burkat tarot ep is nice
http://vimeo.com/66846598
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 14 June 2013 06:32 (ten years ago) link
So according to that Huerco S. article, this is called Outsider House now?
(cue OutHouse jokes)
― dan selzer, Friday, 13 September 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
I don't quite get Huerco S. Tried to get into it and I like some of it ok but over the course of the album it just starts to sound like anonymous warehouse techno (but not danceable)
that Cosby album on 100% Silk that someone mentioned on the regular house/techno thread sounds pretty cool
― dmr, Friday, 13 September 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r2BH9BETMg
― dmr, Friday, 13 September 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
What else should I listen to on Trilogy Tapes?
― MikoMcha, Saturday, 14 September 2013 13:14 (ten years ago) link
Checked out Huerco S this morning in the background, like the textures and atmosphere, but it did seem to lack dynamics.
― MikoMcha, Saturday, 14 September 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link
Is this the thread where we say how great the Unicorn Hard-On album is?
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Monday, 11 November 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RccHLLOhoc8
I like Night Diamond on that release, but as much I might regret saying it, I'm not sure it really qualifies as hipster house!
― MikoMcha, Monday, 11 November 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
yeah... imo it sounds more like post-electroclash idm? like mochipet or dj donna summer or something
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
you know i have to admit i quite like this new steve moore
http://soundcloud.com/stevemoore2600/nemesis
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 06:38 (ten years ago) link
^ this is great. i waited far too long to check out the lovelock album, but it is totally great too. he has his own thread right?
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
very excited about the mood hut stuff mentioned upthread btw, pacific nw represent
feels like an insult to call young marco hipster house, but hey w/e i'll run with it since others are already talking him up here. this remix from last year is going for CRAZY $$$ on the discogs, it was only a run of 100 tho and i guess it's getting a repress from rush hour soon: https://soundcloud.com/#youngmarco/tony-g-simple-dreams-young
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:23 (ten years ago) link
zombi has a thread, but this doesn't really sound like zombi
are we going to need a rolling ambient synth thread this year?
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link
i definitely wouldn't be opposed to it. i like the knew age hippies thread but then i end up missing out on the darker spectrum spools-type stuff
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link
i guess it would work in the IDM thread
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link
Steve Moore just posted about a movie he scored:
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/01/15/dan-stevens-the-guest-youre-next/
What is the IDM thread?
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 19:46 (ten years ago) link
it's called "idm in 2014"
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 19:51 (ten years ago) link
idm in 2014
― the late great, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 19:52 (ten years ago) link
'rolling golf channel 2014'
― Lamp, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link
that channel is so boring! a thread on it would only be more so imo.
― just (Matt P), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 20:33 (ten years ago) link
not as boring as idm in 2014 amirite
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link
I'm down with Golf Channel IDM in 2014
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link
i want a thread where ppl who post in this thread, balearic, and knew age just post stuff they find that they know ill like. rolling recommendations for max thread
― max, Thursday, 16 January 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link
did you like SPIKE?
― the late great, Thursday, 16 January 2014 00:31 (ten years ago) link
max what are your thoughts on the secret circuit album
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Thursday, 16 January 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link
Yes, this.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 16 January 2014 12:13 (ten years ago) link
i liked them both!
― max, Thursday, 16 January 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link
buddy of mine with a new record coming out on 100% silk: https://soundcloud.com/100percentsilk/golden-donna-pale-dream-rider
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 27 February 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link
with all the octo octa love around here, this is definitely a recommendation
https://vimeo.com/41865217
― kolakube (Ross), Friday, 2 February 2018 00:33 (six years ago) link
E-beamz
― brimstead, Friday, 2 February 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
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