So ILE doesn't have a Meredith Kercher/FoxyKnoxy murder thread yet?

thought this was quite good on how the italian justice system is geared up to generate debate and discussion, not to settle it. (eg, prosecutors get to appeal? after the defence has successfully appealed itself? wtf?) just another part of berlusconi's entertainment empire:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/04/amanda-knox-case-italy-justice

Doubt there's much in any developed country worse than the worst of the Brit tabloids, although the Italian press might be advocating shooting all immigrants for all I know.

come on, that's only the Express

another thought...

The defense theory that there must have been a second knife is based on what?

The "first" knife was picked up from Sollectio's flat, from a drawer containing other cutlery, the only reason to link it to the crime is the now discredited DNA evidence. IOW the "second knife" theory is misnamed, the knife submitted as evidence is a complete red herring, there was only one murder weapon which has never been recovered.

Makes sense

So if there was only one murderer then the authorities have basically fucked any chance the family will ever get of achieving closure or a sense of justice or anything? Excellent work all concerned.

italy, everybody!

Well aside from the fact that the murderer is already behind bars for killing Meredith Kercher, and will be for quite a long time..

achieving closure

Expression needs to be euthanized, imho.

Yeah sorry I got carried away.

The Italian tabloids couldn't be worse than the British ones, could they?

I can't speak for the tabloids, but when I was in Italy I saw a TV programme which seemed to be about how the Rothschilds were the secret world government. There was a graphic showing the places where the five original Rothschilds went to - AND WHEN YOU JOINED THEM TOGETHER THEY MADE A STAR.

also, the programme's presenter was wearing a balaclava.

there needs to be a public ceremony where the kercher's family, amanda knox's family, sollecito's family, guede's family and representatives of the US and EU get together over a big fat file of papers, and solemnly take turns stamping CASE CLOSED on the file.

then we'd have "closure"

http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/GT/david-caruso-0409-lg.jpg

From what I recall, they don't really have tabloids in Italy, just 'proper' newspapers. The TV is another matter, especially on the channels owned or controlled by Berlusconi (which is virtually all of them).

The one shred of comfort I have in these difficult times is that our TV news is relatively impartial as far as these things go.

I saw somewhere that the prosecutor is only still working because he's currently appealing against an 18-month sentence for something or other. That can't be right can it?

Or that the Prime Minister is only in his job because he has enough money to repeatedly appeal against all his convictions until the statute of limitations says the case has been going on too long and has to be closed

Hm, that's a fair point.

I read (on the BBC or the Guardian) that one thing that helped Ms Knox secure her release was that Berlusconi has a strong interest in seeing Italy's investigating magistrates discredited.

LOL

That is awesome. It's the kind of end-of-book quiet bombshell John Le Carre would drop in, and you'd shake your head and go "well, maybe in BOOKS it works this way..."

http://i55.tinypic.com/28b7034.jpg

Italian magazine just happens to give away free knives with their latest issue.

That's the first issue of Oggi i've seen that hasn't had a partially-naked woman on the front. I thinks someone mentioned upthread that Italy doesn't really have tabloid newspapers, this might be true but it more than makes up for it in sensationalist magazines.

yeah italy is basically second to none in terms of sensationalist irresponsible media.

It's back

Amanda Knox faces retrial over Meredith Kercher murder

Italy doesn't have anything prohibiting double jeopardy?

The UK sacked it..

italy, everybody!

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:56 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this case refuses to die! i'm not gonna lie, might read the book.

will be a good book but this is nowhere near ready for publication

Meanwhile Rudy Guede - who was *ALSO* convicted of the murder and is in prison for it - is eligible for parole in 2016. He could very well be out before they're done with Knox!

Can't she refuse to defend herself? Now that she's back in the USA I mean?

she could get extradited

extradition between europe and the US is kinda one way

She won't get extradited. US won't allow it because of double jeopardy.

Yeh, no way is she serving time now. Italian courts often hold trials without the defendant but being present eg. Berlusconi's trials.

Presumably the Italian guy is fucked though...

#AmandaKnoxABC

this was the stupidest trial ever. the case against her never made sense to me.

someone shd compare & contrast how abc portrays the story here vs how they did 5 yrs ago

now shes playing cat power cover songs how is she not in jail

cat power is awesome

lol @ Diane Sawyer "hard as it is to imagine, people DO sometimes give false confessions."

like, she was in a stressful situation. it's not at all hard to imagine.

Knox and Sollecito found guilty this go-around. Sad interview with Kercher's brother and sister. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25941999

Goddamn Italy has a kangaroo court justice system. No way this woman should be extradited. What a joke.

I'm totally out of touch with this. What's the most reasonable position on what actually happened?

this is still going on? wtf italy!?

Cardamom, there was a guy who broke into the apartment and robbed them who pleaded guilty to murdering her. The evidence against him was, i think, stronger than against knox.

Ah yeah - now I remember. Was there something about her being involved with the robber in some way?

(What I'm doing here is prob very annoying as I could surely google all this, ffs, but secretly I want to know what ilx people think about this)