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I've heard of one person being a bit led on by her (didn't realise it was a serial thing and as I hadn't known of anything on- or off-board didn't realise these things were so relevant to posting about kids and dogs and idiot co-workers or whatever), but I think the piling onto people who don't know about her off-board life, or aren't going to make the same mistake, or don't actually care that much if a poster posts fake photos of herself, is pretty shitty behaviour. aldo and kv_nol pretty much OTM throughout.

are you fucking serious?!

it's difficult to take one side over the other, I don't really think anyone should be at war over this but I am pretty certain the stories about ilx guys being treated badly/oddly/unfairly are true, at least in one case.

I hate to think how this might affect some of those in question and if I was 100 per cent certain of events perhaps I would muster some of the anger and distaste that others have here.

But as I say in one case I am pretty sure I know what happened.

Now perhaps the issue shouldn't be discussed at length here, but given that it now has been brought up it seems pretty certain many people will feel vindictive about that.

One major point: I certainly wouldn't refute any accusations if I had only heard them as of today or yesterday and I advise others to consider this. Cos rest assured this "weirdness" and these stories has been a sort of taboo around here for years.

I don't mean that as a "you're not in the hivemind" thing either. Just you know, I know nothing about luna, have never had a single run in with her on this board or barely conversed.

But I know for certain there was a "relationship" with one poster and the only part I "found out" just now was how it ended.

x-post with respect ailsa it does seem a bit iffy to just let someone off the hook for such bad behaviour, I mean, trolling is not always Calum Waddell is it? This seems much more dangerous and destructive. who knows what damage you could do to a person?

Ailsa, someone has misrepresented herself by word and deed (and .jpg) to an entire message board for years and years. Just because you haven't personally been hurt by it, it doesn't matter that others have?

Alisa do you realize you're basically saying its ok to enable harmful, insane behavior as long as it doesnt hurt "you" ???

Remy the personal attacks thing was general not specific to you. Apologies if it read that way.

We're all now totally up to speed that there is a school of thought that Luna is fake. Fine. I would be very happy if Misery was to come back, everyone could calm down and the general tone step slightly away from the high-school playground.

But I know for certain there was a "relationship" with one poster and the only part I "found out" just now was how it ended.

Ditto as I mentioned upthread.

Ailsa, someone has misrepresented herself by word and deed (and .jpg) to an entire message board for years and years. Just because you haven't personally been hurt by it, it doesn't matter that others have?

I don't think that was what Ailsa was saying at all. That said, I'm wrecked and sick of ILX for today.

Night all.

Yeah, sorry, that was prob an unwise phrasing b/c I know Ailsa a little and respect her, and I knew I was being a pain when I posted. But that's essentially what you're saying, I think, A?

I have not had the webmail. My point with Tep was not that his not posting here was as a result of the Luna thing - particularly since he posted on his blog as recently as YESTERDAY about their status, and to my recollection he only posted to I Love Cooking for the last couple of months he was online which wa sprobably getting on for a year ago - but that it was not happening as a result of anything here.

Everybody is capable of carrying out all kinds of shite in their real lives. Does that mean it has to get smeared everywhere?

kv OTM. As anyone who has followed this thread might remember, I was on the verge of quitting the other week because of things going on in my private life. I'm now at teh same stage because of shite intruding to my online 'life'.

Fuck it, you all know how to get hold of me. Those that don't, I think we have FB friends in common.

dont apologize to that fartknocker, laurel.

I'm apologizing to Ailsa, really, b/c I knew I was picking out the more incendiary parts of her post...but I think maybe she misspoke, because I don't think she really believes that.

all i know is her, aldo and kv still seem to be attacking me for "posting wrong" or something. hey look all you folx that decided to leave ilx today: im sorry i exposed your online buddy to be a liar. but whatcha guna do?

Umm, okay, it's not just a matter of "Luna messed with someone in her personal life" -- the claim being advanced here (and again, I'm not saying), is that she is a fake all the way through. That her entire self-representation on this board is fake, that she is not who she claims to be.

I mean, fine if you think she's a good friend to chat about dogs with, but just beware the possibility that your dog-chat friend is the kind of person who creates an alter-ego on a message board, posts pictures of some random hot chick, then starts weird long-distance emotional relationships with dudes she never intends to see -- i.e., what we normally call "kinda psycho."

Again, I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

I don't necessarily think that she's fake as in "she's really a 50-year-old dude who lives in his mom's basement," but it doesn't surprise me in the least that she's strung guys along and fucked them over, based on the brief bits of off-board interaction I've had with her.

Let me clear something up. I'm saying that people didn't know what was going on and going "ZOMG you didn't realise she was fake look at all these relationships you knew nothing about IDIOT" is a shitty thing to do to people who don't notice things about posters that don't get publicised on the board. I don't know a hell of a lot about anyone on here other than what they choose to disclose (purposefully or inadvertently), and by and large I don't see the relevance. People are now aware of what some people's beef is with her, and that makes a huge difference. But tootling around calling people out for not knowing something that hasn't been an issue = not terribly nice.

xposts

uhh that didnt happen.

Argh, it's not "beef with her!" That's like saying someone has beef with a unicorn. Chaki doesn't have beef with unicorn. He's just pointing out that it's actually a horse with something taped to its head.

All those people called Chaki out first, Ailsa. He's been taking the heat since middle of last week, when in fact he's just been gently needling the poster formerly known as Luna -- a needling to which she reacts unnecessarily strongly, some might say, and it's her OWN vehemence about being questioned that has led other posters to be all save-a-ho.

thank you, n. you put it much better than i am capable of.

see that sentence doesnt even make sense.

What? What? Is this what ILx is like outside of UK 9-5?!

I'm not sure if I want to know, erm, oh dear, huh :(

(I mean I only came to post about teriyaki sauce but I think I'll just hang on til tomorrow innit)

Oh pardon me for not reading every thread ever. Nabisco's been posting things like "I'm shocked people didn't realise this", "OK, chaki might seem dickish if you somehow magically hadn't realised that luna was fake" which reads like strong hints of "haha, you be stupid". In fact, way back when this cropped up at first I asked chaki to explain and his reply was "im just puttin two and two together. not that difficult people!!!". Maybe I'm just too sensitive. Whatever.

xpost obv

whoa that seems like an overreaction. I really don't think chaki or nabisco was suggesting people who don't know about this stuff (I didn't know about this stuff) are dumb.

i don't like when its fake on the internet
i would never pretend to be anyones Im not
one time i met a pomeranian on dogster and we were supposed to meet to play and then i found out it was her person-owner who was writing things for her!!!!!!!
i am still mad

a puppy OTM

a puppy are you posting to wdyll? I heard you are cute.

Maybe I'm just too sensitive. Whatever.

maybe?! dude you are http://www.projectorcentral.com/ or something.

Yeah, Ailsa, it's very easy to make a point if you selectively change key words in what I said.

Also, many people in LA can't drive because they're FOB and don't bother with such silly things as the DMV.

-- luna, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 23:56 (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

Oh wait, she was Jay Blanchard all along?

I mean, for the record:

1. I said I was surprised people were shocked to hear the accusation.

2. I was actually trying to be nice by saying that yes, I can understand how Chaki would look like a dick if you had no idea where this was coming from.

no wonder she didn't like chaki ;_; xpost

Sorry, what key words? you said "I do, however, agree that Chaki has been way funnier lately if you happen to have already thought Luna was fake -- probably looked a lot dickier if that had somehow magically never occurred to you." The "magically" seemed quite condescending to me. The other thing I misquoted through not opening up the whole thread to search was "I'm just surprised anyone is SHOCKED to hear the accusation that Luna might not be real: did people think she was, like, the only person in the history of the world to have never ever been photographed with her child and/or pets?" which I thought I was just paraphrasing not completely rewriting.

Anyway, I'm hardly the only one overreacting and taking this in a spirit other than what seemed to be intended. Apologies all round.

xpost, fair enough, nabisco. As I said, misreadings all round.

wow you guys

this thread has been productive, in much the same sense as when you call a cough productive

i know you were to busy fighting with ethan to deal with the REAL problems of the world.

xpost

lol

t/s: chaki & nabisco vs. ailsa & kv_nol OR HI DERE vs. and what

wait

Dude I am not on anyone's SIDE here! I was just trying to, like, clarify for Chaki, mostly! When he first made a Luna=fake comment I actually said something like "fine but let's all play along," but people started raging at him about it so unfairly that I couldn't help explaining his point of view a little.

As I said above, I ain't saying, I'm just saying.

Hey, my posts got deleted on this thread! Did I just lose another ILX purity test point?

luna's "bf" just wanted his lj link deleted prolly. understandable.

Never mind, it's there

OOF

Fuck it, flame me all you want now, but if you can't behave on a barely human level here then there is something far, far worse wrong with you as a human fucking being than what you're accusing her of.

Well, this certainly made no sense.

If what people are saying, or "not saying, just saying" is true then I think chaki was well within his rights to snipe at luna and to warn people off.

chaki's wee hints and things like "put two and two together" and "the facts are out there" (paraphrasing, aint reading it all again) was what annoyed those of us (mostly Brits/Irish and therefore a bit removed from the people directly affected) who are/were blind ignorant to all of this stuff that's apparently been bubbling under for years. The facts may all be out there if anyone wants to read back through 5 years of ilx but you could have just given us a quick summary - it was that that made people think your accusations were ungrounded.

The chaki/misery exchange had a fair bit of overreaction on both sides. It's understandable for Ms Mis to react to someone she sees as a friend being (as she sees it) badmouthed, just as it's understandable for chaki to take exception to people trying to stop him warning people off someone who's allegedly fucked his friends over. Picking off old scabs was just low.

I don't want people thinking I'm saying it's ok for us to shoot shit about dogs or whatever w/ luna just because she hasn't ripped our hearts out. I only mentioned that to illustrate that that was all I was aware us with luna for years. If it is true then it's fucked up and v sad for all concerned. If I'd been aware of what had happened in the past I would have reacted differently.

Are pants still optional?
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i never knew any of this but it makes fascinating reading. chaki of late has become my favorite poster & i would trust the man within an inch of my life. just so everyone knows.

erm xp

i got yr back, kid.

chaki is a selfless bro

:)

I still have no idea what's going on. Luna is an ilx heartbreaker? So be it. She has a very cute little boy.

IT'S JUST THE INTERWEBS, people! None of us know each other, really. Let's get back to food and puppies.

I'm eating bay scallops right now, with wasabi and tamari. Oh lord.