with heart-strings
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
relevant: http://criterioncollection.blogspot.com/2005/09/40-armageddon.html
― so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
(With Grand Results)
lmao
― dmr, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
Some tweets from Snoop
SnoopDogg Snoop Dogg Who's coming out to see the Dogg in the UK? might perform some of these Dubstep tracks snoopdogg.com/events/5 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply
SnoopDogg Snoop Dogg Free Dubstep Mixtape i did wid @mistajam @dubstepla feat @12thplanet @FLINCH @Fluxpavilion and the whole DPG fan bit.ly/ph7q3f
― badg, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
lol, can now tell dad how 2 future he was really being when letting me borrow his doggpound tape in sixth grade.
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 08:37 (twelve years ago) link
how old are you? omg.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
30 wut
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
also it was doggystyle, not out until 93 so i guess that's eighth instead
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
Family Force 5 (often abbreviated FF5, formerly known as The Phamily and The Brothers) is a Christian crunk rock band from Atlanta, Georgia.[1] They consist of Solomon "Soul Glow Activatur" Olds, Jacob "Crouton" Olds, Joshua "Fatty" Olds, Nathan "Nadaddy" Currin, and Derek "Chap Stique" Mount. They have released three studio albums, Business Up Front/Party in the Back, Dance or Die, and Family Force 5 Christmas Pageant, as well an extension album, Business Up Front/Party in the Back Diamond Edition and a remix album, Dance or Die with a Vengeance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp017eFimVA
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
haha, great find
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
omg dubstep cereal (is already here?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YpOw8o34BM
― jaxon, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
snoop has been on the dubstep train for like a year, y'all
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
crunch-step, part of this balanced break-fest
― Chris S, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
I'm hanging on to "brastep" for girly stuff.
Love that cartoon upthread. At this point people sniffily defending real dubstep are perhaps more of a problem than LISTEN TO DUBSTEP bros vomiting all over their computer speakers.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit that weetabix commercial
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
I feel sorry for the DEFEND REAL DUBSTEP types not cause brostep usurped their thunder so much as cause they don't realize their music sux too.
― turfin' bird (The Reverend), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
what is "real dubstep" according to these types?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
it doesn't matter.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it does
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
nah it don't
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
inquiring minds want to know
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
It's a moving goalpost I think. There are people who defend the real dubstep of benga/skream from the rank broisms of skrillex et. al. but this strikes me as fairly narc of sd.
The cartoon is probably about people who miss the glory days of DMZ and nowadays collect Swamp 81 records.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
i ask because there seem to be many def'ns of "real dubstep". is it skream? rusko? youngsta?
all are plying rather different trades these days
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link
Agreed.
But in this sense it's not really any different to people talking about "real" house / techno / jungle / trance etc.
Perhaps a sign of a genre's maturity when this happens. A bit scary to think that the first officially-designated "dubstep" mix (that I'm aware of) is now almost 10 years old.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
dubstep allstars 1?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
Kode9 did a mix just called "Dubstep" I think in early 2002 - the follow-up to the excellent "21st Century Skank" mix which was dubstep avant la lettre.
DA1 came out in 2004.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
That was back when people were still talking about "yardcore" and "nu-dark swing" et. al.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
first use of the term?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
"dark garage"
http://www.udubstep.com/the-history-of-dubstep/
They don't mention the mix but do refer to Kode9's radio show at that time.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link
Tim is right that the DRD kru carries various banners, but I seem to hear a lot of "Fuck Skrillex, I listen to Shackleton!", who is alright and all but zzzzzz
― turfin' bird (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
see that's interesting to me because i don't even think of shackleton as dubstep!
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 01:59 (twelve years ago) link
Well he's not really any more. Obv he was totally dubstep on his early releases.
One of the issues here as well is that you get a lot of people who have gotten on board with dubstep since 2008 or so and then have worked backwards to the earlier stuff so when they talk in hushed tones about Loefah and Mala they're like to be talking about "Anti-War Dub" or w/e rather than 2011 material.
In much the same way that people getting into dubstep circa 2005 were talking in hushed tones about Steve Gurley and El-B.
The difference being that the official history of dubstep has been so thoroughly prepared and documented (take a bow blackdown!) that a neophyte can pretty quickly get a historical perspective on earlier dubstep without missing the point entirely.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't really heard Shackleton's recent material, but yeah, he was totally dubstep at least at one point.
― turfin' bird (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 October 2011 02:10 (twelve years ago) link
People I heard associated w/dubstep, not pre-dubstep per se (like Horsepower Productions):
Various, Digital Mystikz, Loefah, Mala, Coki, Benga, Distance, Hatcha, Skream
Honestly, anyone who had a name ending in "a" and I kind of felt embarrassed about saying their name, but I'm north american.
Shackleton's always been "post-dubstep" or at least outer reaches. After crossing w/other material he veered off, imo.
"Roots of Dubstep":http://www.discogs.com/Various-Ammunition-And-Blackdown-Present-The-Roots-Of-Dubstep/release/776211
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 6 October 2011 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
Shackleton's always been "post-dubstep" or at least outer reaches.
Why would Shackleton's early material be any more "outer reaches" than, say, Mala?
I mean if the definition of dubstep is basically Benga/Skream/Distance, then, sure, but at that point I think my narc of sd point seriously applies vis a vis Skrillex etc.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
or punk/rap/whatever the fuck else
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
start @ 4:28 for some troo bronesshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAOfu9_ZPBc
er, 4:26
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
(sorta NSFW)
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
I guess I might be extrapolating Shackleton's later stuff to his early ones. He kind of had the Mordant Music thing, then the Shackleton/Appleblim Skull Disco roadshow, right?
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link
I mostly know him for his Skull Disco stuff.
― turfin' bird (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
so i was at the punk rock pizza shop, and looking at all the fliers on the wall, and buried in amongst 1000s of indie / punk / hardcore shows and 100s of indie / electro / hip hop i see two lonely DUBSTEP nights, both at the same club, a place on the edge of downtown popular with yelpers and style bloggers that programs "hip hop / reggae / funk / soul" or "indie / electro" or "house / tech house" every other night of the month.
the first crew is called SNIPAZ
the second crew is called MAYHEM
which do i go see?
― funk master friendly (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
SNIPAZ will prob have more girls & ppl on drugs but MAYHEM will prob be more of a spectacle
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 6 October 2011 04:19 (twelve years ago) link
Someone put Shackleton over that "Sorry For Partying" vid.
― errant flynn, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
a lot of the songs on this thread weren't on spotify, but here is a brostep playlist: http://bit.ly/rk0QC1enjoy, bros. also what ever you do do not listen to the pandora dubstep station.
― Picnicant, Friday, 7 October 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks! I've been trying to recreate some chainsaw/brostep sounds in Reason as an experiment, and it's harder than it sounds. Some of those wobs are really tricky to pull off.
― dog latin, Friday, 7 October 2011 11:32 (twelve years ago) link
Last weekend, I dl'd a bunch of 2005-2011 era dubstep tracks off of the ilm "dubstep" thread. Then I dl'd Skrillex's BBC Essential Mix. Then I took them both out on some long car trips I had to take this week anyway. This helped immeasurably improve the dubstep experience for me because on my previous attempts to listen to it, I had just been listening through laptop speakers and those obviously don't capture the bass.
I liked them both well enough. There were a few places where Skrillex went off into real corny territory. I had done my best to get myself into the frame of mind of my 19-year-old self though, and from that perspective it felt like Christmas. It doesn't strike me as being terribly far off from Daft Punk or Underworld as far as enormous, mass-appeal dance music goes.
The "actual" dubstep I picked up was a mixture of different styles, from moody, atmospheric stuff to brash, noisy, dancehall-ish kinda numbers. Some of it had a lot of spirit, some of it was intensely boring. Based on what I've heard so far, I don't think that I prefer it to most of the drum n bass I was listening to back in the 90s.
― piper at the goats of j0hn (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 7 October 2011 11:59 (twelve years ago) link
much of the dubstep I picked up was straight from this list:
dubstep
― piper at the goats of j0hn (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 7 October 2011 12:00 (twelve years ago) link
I had done my best to get myself into the frame of mind of my 19-year-old self though, and from that perspective it felt like Christmas. It doesn't strike me as being terribly far off from Daft Punk or Underworld as far as enormous, mass-appeal dance music goes.
totally agree. And tbh I rather wide eyed 'filthy bass' brostep kids to the angry hardcore 'mosh' kids that were everywhere when I was a teenager.
― owenf, Friday, 7 October 2011 12:08 (twelve years ago) link