So ILE doesn't have a Meredith Kercher/FoxyKnoxy murder thread yet?

i don't really think we can trust anything the family says about the case tbh, harsh but fair.

otm

however, the early Daily Mail version:

http://davesaysthings.com/delicious-cake/dailymail-knox-guilty.png

ah, it's here in it's entirety:

http://davesaysthings.com/delicious-cake/dailymail-knox-guilty.png

shorter version:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7kpZKZc9VTs/ToohMMFaQTI/AAAAAAAACQQ/D-k0JAXFPiQ/s1600/guilty.jpg

The link has the full version, including quotes from all parties, and suchlike.

sidebar is still the most compellingly weird thing about the daily mail site. i don't know what mail readers' angle on the new pac sextape is, i guess it is maybe something to disapprove of.

Weeping tears pof self-pity and still denying he's a peadophile...Chris Langham plotting his comeback

Underneath pics of 'sultry' Kendal Jenner (15). You Couldn't Make It Up.

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg806/scaled.php?tn=0&server=806&filename=ypgq.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Foxy Knoxy: Would Ya?
So Amanda Knox has been cleared of the murder of British student Meredith Kercher. She’s entirely innocent. She’s also undeniably fit and loves wild sex. Or did. So if you were a guy who’d met her in a bar and she invited you back to hers, would you go? I’m being quite serious. Or would something in your brain make you think twice?

Or would something in your brain make you think twice?

Some biochemical process I assume?

i would hit it but but my parasitical brain-weevils say nuh-uh

acquittal removes much of the frisson or perhaps increases it

Also she's been in prison for four years, eh boys? Knowhorrimean? Wahey! Eh? Eh?

was digging at the media and its speculators, not Knox who i'd guess wants to disappear, like max said

oh no I got that, I was marveling at the combo of ice cold and hilarious

Even if she does want to disappear, it's not going to happen -- her family has a lot of debt to pay off due to legal fees so she's likely to be making the media circuit w/paid interviews and probably publishing a book as well.

couldn't she/wouldn't she/would she not shoot for compensation on account of wrongful conviction?

does her family really have that much debt? i was under the impression that they were pretty rich--father was a microsoft exec or something?

Whatever she does, I imagine Italy's off the itinerary for a while

Taking Sides: pizza in the joint, or pizza in Seattle?

I gotta know

"Amanda, I hear real Italian pizza is worth going to jail for..."

The lady at the post office checked my ID yesterday (was using a cc to pay for overseas shipping) and she was like "this reminds me of that GIRL! they set her free, right?" and we proceeded to talk about Foxy Knoxy for at least 3 min while other people waited in line.

Knox's father is a vice-prez at Macy's. Well off but not wealthy, I'd imagine.

Can somebody link to something that explains why the Kerchers think there was a second murderer?

La Lechera pics or it didn't happen

Can somebody link to something that explains why the Kerchers think there was a second murderer?

BBC keep saying this too as if it's fact that there must have been more than one murderer

... or maybe it was Channel 4 News with that terrible reporter who looks like Penfold from Dangermouse

this is not a link but I think guede's conviction was based on the fact that there was one or more others involved not sure why

xpost

"There were 47 wounds on Meredith and two knives used, one person couldn't possibly have done that." (Kercher's dad) - I think it's basically a line used by the prosection.

The one knife submitted as evidence was the one found in Knox's boyfriends kitchen, which the discredited forensics said had her and kercher's dna; a defence expert testified that the three cuts to Kercher's throat were made by a smaller knife.

When asked if there could have been two knives involved, a theory put forth by the prosecution when it had to admit that the smaller wounds could not have been made by the big kitchen knife, Torre replied, "It would be the first time in history that a murder was done with two knives.

translation of the report by original trial judge, including all forensic evidence heard by the court:
http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/2011/3/Massei_Report.pdf

So:

- Acquitted couple's DNA found on big knife
- Murder was done with smaller knife

Wow, what a stumper

I mean.. the Kerchers have to be operating on some data that is more complicated than that?

ok if you read from page 368 on the above link, it was the opinion of the court that there must have been more than one assailant, essentially due to her being strong and fit and awake and sober, and thus requiring more than one person to subdue her - "Also the diverse morphology of the injuries and their number and distribution lead one to consider that those participating in this criminal action were more than one".

rmde

... even though "The consultants and forensic scientists have asserted that from the point of view of forensic science, it cannot be ruled out that the author of the injuries could have been a single attacker, because the bruises and the wounds from a pointed and cutting weapon are not in themselves incompatible with the action of a single person."

Torre replied, "It would be the first time in history that a murder was done with two knives.

"Et tu, Torre?"

http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/29/2927/ZQ9RD00Z/art-print/c-l-doughty-the-death-of-julius-caesar.jpg

i have no way of knowing how much of this is true but the italian prosecutor sounds like a real piece of work

http://abcnews.go.com/International/critics-knox-prosecutor-giuliano-mignini-seeking-revenge-redemption/story?id=14623904

Decades passed with no resolution and then, in 2002, Mignini re-opened the case. He didn't buy into the lone psychopathic killer theory. Instead, he claimed, the murders were the work of a satanic sect, dating back to the Middle Ages, that needed female body parts for their black masses, to serve as the blasphemous wafer.

[...]

Preston and Spezi were investigating the Monster on their own. They pursued a lone killer theory which entirely undermined Mignini's. In short order, they found themselves in Mignini's crosshairs.

The prosecutor brought Preston in for an interview which, Preston said, quickly became an interrogation.

"He accused me of planting evidence and demanded that I confess to these crimes," he said. "I was accused of knowing all about Satanism and so on and so forth. And it was completely insane. It was like something out of a nightmare."

why would guede do it? what is the motive?

burglary gone wrong iirc.

this all plays well into my theory that european countries don't have the death penalty because their right-wing kooks and miscarriages of justice really beat ours hands-down

Rolling Stone sez:

There are many theories, but the most persuasive scenario goes as follows:

Guede stakes out the cottage after dark. He breaks into the girls’ apartment and makes himself comfortable. He swigs orange juice from a carton he finds in the refrigerator — he had a spicy kebab for dinner — and then uses the bathroom. While he’s on the can, Kercher enters the apartment, locking the door behind her. Guede is trapped. He can’t exit through the window without alerting Kercher, and he can’t use the front door, because you need a key to open the lock from the inside. (Kercher’s keys would be stolen, along with cash, credit cards and phones.) Guede rises from the toilet without flushing, so as not to make a noise. He walks to Kercher’s bedroom. Perhaps he tries to explain himself — “Sorry, the door was open, I let myself in, I’m a friend of Giacomo’s downstairs” — or perhaps she starts screaming before he can speak. He grabs her by the mouth (there were bruises on Kercher’s face) and threatens her with the knife. He assaults her and, realizing that Kercher can identify him, he panics and kills her.

and he stabbed her 47 times to make it seem like a crime of passion?

47 wounds including bruises and defensive wounds, not 47 direct stab wounds (i can't even find a primary source for the number 47).

looking fwd 2 the spicy kebab defense

orange juice isnt the best way to deal with spicy food repeating on you

So, what sort of supposed chain of events has the NME come up with?

either there was no milk in the house or we're dealing with a total psycho

I use my 8" kitchen knife to cut almost anything. The defense theory that there must have been a second knife is based on what? The depth of the cut?Is there any way to accurately determine the breadth of a cutting blade from a cut? What if one person accidentally or purposely cut Kercher's throat (thus obviating any need to subdue her) and then, for whatever reason proceeded to stab her multiple times?

"Also the diverse morphology of the injuries and their number and distribution lead one to consider that those participating in this criminal action were more than one".

I understand this sentence but I am dubious about the facts behind it.

of course the issue here isn't whether there's a convincing defence version of events but whether the prosecution version shd have ever been considered convincing

Guede's bloody fingerprint was found on the bed right? So either he was involved or he happened to be in a strange girl's flat and found the body?

Or the forensics and the investigation were completely botched and/or corrupt.

"He ruled out that the knife (Exhibit 36) could have caused the wound on the opposite side ... because of the size of the wound (1 cm and a half with a depth of 4 cm) and the fact that at 4 cm from the tip the width of the blade of the knife is about 3 cm and therefore much larger than the width of the wound (as indicated, 1.5cm)." xp to mwhite

Guede 'fessed to something tho which - i know, right? - but still