is it brostep?

I feel as though friends and acquaintances Have been trying to shove Noisia down my throat like Cod liver oil in an orphanage these last few years. So far I've pretty much resisted because, well, it's a racket I'm never really in the mood for, but it's funny we're only just discussing this now.

Rusko's thoughts on Brostep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEuFTBG0Rbg

michael bay-step == pretends to have a plot, actually just hyperactive genre cliches replayed fast enough and poorly enough?

with heart-strings

relevant: http://criterioncollection.blogspot.com/2005/09/40-armageddon.html

(With Grand Results)

lmao

Some tweets from Snoop

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Who's coming out to see the Dogg in the UK? might perform some of these Dubstep tracks snoopdogg.com/events/
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Free Dubstep Mixtape i did wid @mistajam @dubstepla feat @12thplanet @FLINCH @Fluxpavilion and the whole DPG fan bit.ly/ph7q3f

lol, can now tell dad how 2 future he was really being when letting me borrow his doggpound tape in sixth grade.

how old are you? omg.

30 wut

also it was doggystyle, not out until 93 so i guess that's eighth instead

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp017eFimVA

haha, great find

omg dubstep cereal (is already here?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YpOw8o34BM

snoop has been on the dubstep train for like a year, y'all

crunch-step, part of this balanced break-fest

I'm hanging on to "brastep" for girly stuff.

Love that cartoon upthread. At this point people sniffily defending real dubstep are perhaps more of a problem than LISTEN TO DUBSTEP bros vomiting all over their computer speakers.

holy shit that weetabix commercial

I feel sorry for the DEFEND REAL DUBSTEP types not cause brostep usurped their thunder so much as cause they don't realize their music sux too.

what is "real dubstep" according to these types?

it doesn't matter.

yeah it does

nah it don't

inquiring minds want to know

It's a moving goalpost I think. There are people who defend the real dubstep of benga/skream from the rank broisms of skrillex et. al. but this strikes me as fairly narc of sd.

The cartoon is probably about people who miss the glory days of DMZ and nowadays collect Swamp 81 records.

i ask because there seem to be many def'ns of "real dubstep". is it skream? rusko? youngsta?

all are plying rather different trades these days

Agreed.

But in this sense it's not really any different to people talking about "real" house / techno / jungle / trance etc.

Perhaps a sign of a genre's maturity when this happens. A bit scary to think that the first officially-designated "dubstep" mix (that I'm aware of) is now almost 10 years old.

dubstep allstars 1?

Kode9 did a mix just called "Dubstep" I think in early 2002 - the follow-up to the excellent "21st Century Skank" mix which was dubstep avant la lettre.

DA1 came out in 2004.

That was back when people were still talking about "yardcore" and "nu-dark swing" et. al.

first use of the term?

"dark garage"

http://www.udubstep.com/the-history-of-dubstep/

They don't mention the mix but do refer to Kode9's radio show at that time.

Tim is right that the DRD kru carries various banners, but I seem to hear a lot of "Fuck Skrillex, I listen to Shackleton!", who is alright and all but zzzzzz

see that's interesting to me because i don't even think of shackleton as dubstep!

Well he's not really any more. Obv he was totally dubstep on his early releases.

One of the issues here as well is that you get a lot of people who have gotten on board with dubstep since 2008 or so and then have worked backwards to the earlier stuff so when they talk in hushed tones about Loefah and Mala they're like to be talking about "Anti-War Dub" or w/e rather than 2011 material.

In much the same way that people getting into dubstep circa 2005 were talking in hushed tones about Steve Gurley and El-B.

The difference being that the official history of dubstep has been so thoroughly prepared and documented (take a bow blackdown!) that a neophyte can pretty quickly get a historical perspective on earlier dubstep without missing the point entirely.

I haven't really heard Shackleton's recent material, but yeah, he was totally dubstep at least at one point.

People I heard associated w/dubstep, not pre-dubstep per se (like Horsepower Productions):

Various, Digital Mystikz, Loefah, Mala, Coki, Benga, Distance, Hatcha, Skream

Honestly, anyone who had a name ending in "a" and I kind of felt embarrassed about saying their name, but I'm north american.

Shackleton's always been "post-dubstep" or at least outer reaches. After crossing w/other material he veered off, imo.

"Roots of Dubstep":
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Ammunition-And-Blackdown-Present-The-Roots-Of-Dubstep/release/776211

Shackleton's always been "post-dubstep" or at least outer reaches.

Why would Shackleton's early material be any more "outer reaches" than, say, Mala?

I mean if the definition of dubstep is basically Benga/Skream/Distance, then, sure, but at that point I think my narc of sd point seriously applies vis a vis Skrillex etc.

But in this sense it's not really any different to people talking about "real" house / techno / jungle / trance etc.

or punk/rap/whatever the fuck else

start @ 4:28 for some troo broness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAOfu9_ZPBc

er, 4:26

(sorta NSFW)

I guess I might be extrapolating Shackleton's later stuff to his early ones. He kind of had the Mordant Music thing, then the Shackleton/Appleblim Skull Disco roadshow, right?

I mostly know him for his Skull Disco stuff.

so i was at the punk rock pizza shop, and looking at all the fliers on the wall, and buried in amongst 1000s of indie / punk / hardcore shows and 100s of indie / electro / hip hop i see two lonely DUBSTEP nights, both at the same club, a place on the edge of downtown popular with yelpers and style bloggers that programs "hip hop / reggae / funk / soul" or "indie / electro" or "house / tech house" every other night of the month.

the first crew is called SNIPAZ

the second crew is called MAYHEM

which do i go see?

SNIPAZ will prob have more girls & ppl on drugs but MAYHEM will prob be more of a spectacle

Someone put Shackleton over that "Sorry For Partying" vid.

a lot of the songs on this thread weren't on spotify, but here is a brostep playlist: http://bit.ly/rk0QC1
enjoy, bros. also what ever you do do not listen to the pandora dubstep station.

Thanks! I've been trying to recreate some chainsaw/brostep sounds in Reason as an experiment, and it's harder than it sounds. Some of those wobs are really tricky to pull off.