So ILE doesn't have a Meredith Kercher/FoxyKnoxy murder thread yet?

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wow, she lost the appeal

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

woah WHAT

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

she totally didn't but one second ago the guardian liveblog said 'know has lost her appeal'

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

so yeah she is, they are, free

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

or 'fee' as the guardian put it, which i guess is at least less embarrassing in the face of having got it way wronger a second earlier

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

#TeamFoxyKnoxy

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

The Mail have been saying she lost too http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044583/Amanda-Knox-verdict-GUILTY-appeal-murder-conviction-rejected.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

I suspect that won't stay up long

Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

For clarification, this entry said Knox had lost the appeal, not the appeal on this specific charge. Apologies for this error.

what a confusing clarification

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

Premature posting by the mail there.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

well, she lost the defamation appeal right?

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

there were two charges, apparently; she got the murder charge overturned but lost the defamation charge where she accused Patrick Lumumba of being the murderer

the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

That Mail link reports her sobbing as it's announced and the enormity of 26 yrs sank in, etc - it's one thing getting it wrong, but blatantly making up the whole story. I'm naive to be shocked I guess.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

Best part of the pre-written Mail article: 'Media scum: Journalists, photographers and camera crews flooded the court room during the appeal sessions earlier today ahead of the verdict'

abcfsk, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

It's like they'd been fantasising about it for ages...

Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

lol mail article still up

prego, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

hahahahahahaha they've posted the "she's free" article on the homepage but the prefab "she's GUILTY" article hasn't been deleted yet

the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

Italian justice system has really failed to cover itself in glory here - not that I'm implying other countries are better, just fucked up differently.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

I suppose the best the Italians can say is that at least they didn't execute her...

Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

Nobody is covered in glory here - the prosecution, the judge, the defence, the police, Knox, the Knox family, the pro-Knox media, the anti-Knox media...

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

as i say, differently fucked up. the whole prosecution story is kinda unlikely when you think about it, and i assume it takes a certain kinda culture to swallow the "she's obv a ho so she must have done it" line

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

tbh I can see that line working in quite a few countries

Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

eh newspapers hedge like this all the time, by having two stories ready. not an indictment in itself of anything other than the competency of web site staff.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

i assume the exciting public grandstanding carried out by judge, defence, prosecution, cops, etc. was what influenced the UK gov to open our courtrooms to TV cameras, give us a chance to experience it first hand

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

eh newspapers hedge like this all the time, by having two stories ready. not an indictment in itself of anything other than the competency of web site staff.

please be reassured that all of my lols are squarely aimed at the web site staff

the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

Now what? Book deal, millions of dollars for her story/reality show/porn parody until everyone's sick of her?

StanM, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

The first flight out of Italy before the prosecution get their appeal going, surely

Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, and enough common sense to tone down the victory celebrations in light of the unsolved murder of her former flatmate, please god

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

re hedging, I get that - it's more the reporting of a bunch of stuff that never happening that's the thing. If the appeal had failed and she'd shrugged, or maybe frowned a little, the story would still have been about her as a sobbing wreck.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

Well there's still a guy doing 16 years for the murder xp

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

I expect her to record a duet with DSK - that other recent innocent victim

StanM, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

Dancing With The Stars 2012, signature move involving a cartwheel across the dance floor?

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

eh newspapers hedge like this all the time, by having two stories ready. not an indictment in itself of anything other than the competency of web site staff.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, October 3, 2011 4:20 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Prosecutors were delighted with the verdict and said that 'justice has been done' although they said on a 'human factor it was sad two young people would be spending years in jail'.

xp w/ IK

max, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

oh for some reason i thought Guede had done one

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

maybe cos him and the other two all having done it makes no sense

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

wait I thought this person helped killed someone

conrad, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

why did the forensics not get done properly first time? talk on the BBC just now of masks not being worn and evidence not being bagged, tagged the usual way? any uh.. forensic experts on ile (wouldn't surprise me!).

piscesx, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

I think there is a Rolling Stone article above that discusses all the issues with the crime scene.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

Now what? Book deal, millions of dollars for her story/reality show/porn parody until everyone's sick of her?

A reality show where she shares an apartment with Casey Anthony and they have wacky adventures together?

DaTruf (Nicole), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

there were two charges, apparently; she got the murder charge overturned but lost the defamation charge where she accused Patrick Lumumba of being the murderer

ha ha, it's like a simpsons thing though; i hereby pronounce you GUILTY!

- of slander & thereby must pay $15 in damages. of murder?, oh, sure, innocent.

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

i kinda doubt amanda knox wants to be famous

max, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

well she shouldn't've not committed a crime then

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

damn dude

the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

The Rolling Stone made it seem kind of ludicrous that she was tried at all, so much so that I recoiled a bit because it seemed almost like a release by the PR machine they talk about. But then you hear about the speeches comparing her to Goebbels or bloody Jessica Rabbit and it's just like nobody's trying to find an impartial truth here.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

xp

was digging at the media and its speculators, not Knox who i'd guess wants to disappear, like max said

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

'human factor it was sad two young people would be spending years in jail'.

ha did not read that. lol mail?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 October 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

I'd be interested to know what the Italian media response is to this. I've largely ignored the whole thing, but I get the impression the UK media have demonised Know while the American media have held her up as victim of a gross miscarriage of justice. Personally, I have no idea if she's guilty or innocent and whether her being released is a good or bad thing. I'd like to know what a 'neutral' country's perspective is.

Actually, I suppose Italy aren't exactly neutral as their legal system is kind of on trial here. Someone tell me what the French think.

the swiss surely

conrad, Monday, 3 October 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

*Gallic shrug*

Number None, Monday, 3 October 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link


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