the cowboys' bigger is bigger than your bigger: NFL week three

lol @ taking my throwaway one-liner on why I'm not picking MIN and reading way too much into it.

As a QB with no particular track record on an 0-2 team, Tarvaris (I had no idea there was an extra 'R' in there) is going to take his share of shit. I don't really see the problem with this. If they start winning games he'll become a "game manager." QBing in the NFL is totally feast or famine right now to the point where going 15-25 for 150-something yards and no picks is actually considered praiseworthy. I agree with you in one sense--ALL the guys who put up that line should be getting some criticism sent their way. Cassel was lousy on Sunday but that's not a story you'll read very much.

that said, it was pretty awful when the fans booed the bejeezus outta t-jax, and i have no problem believing that minnesota fans are all racialist dbags

minnesota is the most racist place? worse than philly? i find that extremely hard to believe.

Hope T-Jack doesn't go home and try to kill himself with chicken wings.

KC @ ATL - ATL
OAK @ BUF - BUF!
TB @ CHI - CHI
CAR @ MIN - CAR
MIA @ NE - NE
CIN @ NYG - NYG
HOU @ TEN - TEN
ARI @ WAS - ARI
NO @ DEN - DEN
DET @ SF - we all lose
STL @ SEA - SEA
CLE @ BAL - BAL
JAC @ IND - IND
PIT @ PHI - PHI (!!!!!!!!!!)
DAL @ GB - GB
NYJ @ SD - SD

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=2H_Md-gyg7c

THE JUSTIN TUCK HE-MAN CLIP IS LIVE!

philly is very racist too, i mean 'most racist' really depends on the time & day. for example arizona is so racist they didn't even have mlk day for years.

Philly isn't racist. Take it back. :( :( :(

Take it over here, boys.

my dad is from philly!

People disliked Warren Moon because of the whole wife-beating thing.

It's much fairer to say that the Vikings' owners are racist than it is to say that Minnesota en masse is racist.

(not that there aren't some full-on head-melting racists there; I went to high school with a bunch of them)

mainly i am talking about the mn press.

wow...that thread's good times.

oh, arizona. frogot about that one. y'know virginny makes mlk share his holiday w/ r.e. lee and stonewall jackson? what the fuck?

civil rights leader and two traitors. thanks, dudes.

by week four all my posts are going to be like that part in Being John Malkovich where it's all "malkovich malkovich malkovich"

billsbillsbillsbillsbillsbillsbillsbillsbillsbillsbillsbillsbillsbillsbills

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo

im gonna say right here that the OMG SHOCKING NEWS of week 3 will be the pats being seriously challenged (if not beat!) by the dolphins. the dolphins historically have played the patriots well in NE and the cassell incarnation of them is much closer to the jets that the dolphins nearly beat than the cardinals that they got torched by last week. im talking something like 16-13.

btw i hate parcells and sporano and am not a homer and in fact want the dolphins to go 0-16

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_buffalo_Buffalo_buffalo

http://buffaloremix.ytmnd.com/

okay yeah, I can get behind MN press being douchebags re: the Vikings

when I went to the skins/jags pre-caesar where I got to sit 30 feet from adam schefter himself, all the redskins fans were drooling for Colt Brennan. Nobody gets booed like a black quarterback.

Oh wait, this is the one I meant:

http://buffalo-buffalo.ytmnd.com/

so many good games this week but

NO @ DEN

will be the best one

I would have yelled at the schef but I was dead sober going in plus beer at fedex is $8. I was not prepared.

the thing with jackson is that they are still handcuffing him, and if the coaching staff doesn't show outward confidence in their QB than there is no way that their fanbase will

i will say, there is a long history of fickle fandom re: qb's in dc. i mean, anecdotally, i've heard about the sonny/kilmer flipflops, but when i was a kid, i remember pulling for bob holly and babe laufenberg over theisman and two short years later calling for jay schroeder's head in the throes of doug "pockets" williams-mania; gus over heath, trent green over gus; running brad johnson out of town...

really, gibbs winning the super bowl w/ three different qbs was a curse.

can we get back to the important thing which is that justin tuck should be ilnfl favorite player in perpetuity? by the power of grayskull!

also lol @ Buffalo buffalo Buffalo

I don't know if Minnesota is a racist bunghole of a town or not, but I do think the criticism of Jackson has been fair. So far his career trajectory has been similar to Kyle Boller's, both of them cannon armed quarterbacks with a middling passing percentages drafted purely on potential. Those of type of players almost never pan out in the NFL.

Redskins’ fans are rooting for Colt Brennen? Weak armed system quarterbacks almost never make in the NFL either. I think Jason Campbell is going to be fine.

I would like to see FO do some research on QBs' starting performance relative to their predecessors' performance plus seasons-of-bench-warming experience under said predecessor. Barnwell had a line about Rodgers vs. Smith in re: class of 2005 explaining why he thought Rodgers would have been just as much of a bust had he gotten stuck in Smith's position.

What QBs deserve criticism more than Tavaris and aren't hearing it?

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KC @ ATL - ATL (waht)
OAK @ BUF - BUF!
TB @ CHI - TB (!) <--asscrack
CAR @ MIN - MIN
MIA @ NE - NE (no controversy)
CIN @ NYG - lolgigantess
HOU @ TEN - Hou, coach confoosed as to use collins or teh black man.
ARI @ WAS - ARI
NO @ DEN - NO
DET @ SF - we all lose (SF)
STL @ SEA - SEA (rams may be shut out)
CLE @ BAL - CLE (controversy)
JAC @ IND - IND (unconvincingly again)
PIT @ PHI - PIT (no homo)
DAL @ GB - GB
NYJ @ SD - SD (favre 2 td in 2nd half after 0 TD/1 INT first half and a 32-10 SD Lead)

Barnwell had a line about Rodgers vs. Smith in re: class of 2005 explaining why he thought Rodgers would have been just as much of a bust had he gotten stuck in Smith's position.

I basically agree with this, except Trent Edwards.

But yeah the Brady rule. cf. Favre, Brett.

I really don't understand why teams still try to draft their way to ghreatness at the QB position. And it's always bad teams. Chicken or egg?

Are there any examples out there I'm forgetting of rookie quarterbacks just coming in and lighting it up from Day One? Marino?

how about rofflesburger? daunte culpepper?

you mean absolute rookies or guys who caddy a couple years before getting the starting gig?

absolute rookies

"get me a Cade McNown type"

But Roffles was lucky enough to land on a team with playoff level talent. Most first round quarterbacks go to shit teams by definition. Then they are thrown into the mix much too early, only to get their brains smashed out through their ear holes... hello, David Carr. This is probably why a lot of spread quarterbacks wash out in the NFL; they're never given enough time to learn the pro game.

Peyton Manning, i guess. he broke a bunch of rookie records, right?

Roffles also had two (2) HB's that he could ride all day so...

Gus Frerotte is Minnesota's option, which is to say not much of one. I'd probably be sticking with Tavaris Jackson. It's QB, it isn't like you can make a deal at this point to get someone else unless you are getting really desperate and calling old man Vinny.

Troy Aikman got the crap kicked out of him starting of the Cowboys as a rookie, but that team went like 1-15.

JAMARCUS RUSSELL

WAIT UNTIL HE'S PLAYED A FULL SEASON &c

I hear Jeff George is available.

Police said Marinovich, 38, ran from officers who tried to stop him about 1:15 a.m. Sunday for skateboarding near the Newport Pier boardwalk, where skateboarding is prohibited.

He was found hiding in a carport about 1:30 a.m., police Sgt. Evan Sailor said. After searching Marinovich, police found about one gram of methamphetamine, a metal spoon and a hypodermic needle, Sailor said.

in other news, Bubby Brister received a summons from his apartment complex owner for playing his music "too loud"

There's some talk around about the Vikings making a play for Jeff Garcia, but I can't imagine that happening. The Bucs would be nuts to make the move to Griese permanent.

The Bucs would be nuts to make the move to Griese permanent.

Yeah, but Chucky and Garcia hate each other.

Well the T-Jax debate will not be resolved this season: Frerotte named starter for rest of year.

Deserved recent Tarvaris hating aside, this really sucks and is all about a coach trying to not get fired.

effects:

1. replaces a chump with a chump, nothing gained
2. lets receivers off the hook when spotlight should be on them this week
3. trashes a whole pre-season of work on offense
4. completely undermines the good things about two unlucky defeats
5. damages team morale by underscoring that they are being coached by a cretin

ugh. firing up the gus bus is a BAD move.

...seriously though, exhibit a of the improper value of having starter experience=gus
frerotte.

guys no. he's just hurt!

isn't sean alexander like 50 and lt is 27 or something?

Alexander is two years older than LT.

Alexander started to suck two years ago.

guys what are we going to call week four thread

okay fine

xpost

Rolling Patriots Season Into The Shitbin Thread

(lazy)

ally already started the week 4 thread! "it's the achilles heel of his foot!"

i am so furious with all you lt haters right now

I was hoping for "Primates need comfort even more than they need food": NFL Week 4.

LT is fine, give him at least till a third of the way into the season guys!

Who's hating?!?!? I see two guys -- one a diehard Charger fan -- legitimately concerned about the mileage on LT's body, and looking at a rather frightening parallel. If anything, it's more like "pessimistic pragmatism" with a tiny dash of "ON NO THE COMMIES" paranoia.

(xpost)

I love LT, and I really really really want him to retire with more touchdowns than Terrell Owens.

well, i'm not really furious, i'm just worried now.

I think we need to post that pic of Happy Romeo Crenell about 90 times right now, to offset all the bad juju.

i love LT and i want him to come back and finish with 1500 yds and 20 tds this year and a super bowl win over the cowboys (in which romo loses six fumbles and cries after each one)

lt cries too - also he has a hill in his back yard - he runs up it

last year afc title.. LT took himself out after a few carries, what happened there, i remember him just sitting off by himself the rest of the game. i really can't hate on rivers to be honest

He was trying to play through ligament damage and it was obvious that he wasn't helping the team by playing.

i'm not worried abt LT, cuz i saw this coming (*goony smirk*)

for real tho, he's on the edge of 30 which is basically 90 in runningback years, and to my untrained eye he looked half a step slower last year. being half a step slower than the best RB in the game aint so bad tho, and i think with his skillset - he's wayyyyyyyyyyyy more versatile than SA ever was - he should be good for a while longer than yr typical RB, even if he isn't quite so dominant a year or two from now.