David Toop - Sugar and Poison Soul Ballads CD

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that toop quote that andy k posted upthread is beyond classic. that is a quote right? is it from the liner notes to this comp?

tricky, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link

It's from the Tangents interview linked by stevied at the top.

Andy K, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

updated link in case anyone else is curious.

tricky, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, I'm here. I'll YSI tonight. But I'm having electricity problems (believe it or not). So it may take a day or two.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

you are a star, thanks kevin.

jed_, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Part 1 here. Use Stuffit Expander to unstuff/zip.

Part 2 tonight.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

great so far, thanks again.

jed_, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Part Deux here.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 13 September 2007 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link

thanks!

jaxon, Thursday, 13 September 2007 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

shit. my internut connection dropped for a second and i lost the second one. now the download limit has been reached. anyone want to upload both of them (well, at least the second) to another large file host? sendspace?

jaxon, Thursday, 13 September 2007 06:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Here, my dear.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 13 September 2007 08:52 (sixteen years ago) link

the chasin a dream song on the first disc seems out of place to me. not sure about the mr. fingers either.

artdamages, Thursday, 13 September 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

not that i dont like the track

artdamages, Thursday, 13 September 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I got part 2, but missed part 1. Damn!
But thanks, Kevin. Very cool.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 13 September 2007 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

10 minutes. i'll hook u up

jaxon, Thursday, 13 September 2007 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

part uno http://www.sendspace.com/file/cm6159

jaxon, Thursday, 13 September 2007 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

OMG you rule!
I've been looking for this thing for years.
A million thanks. This definitely brightens my day.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 13 September 2007 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link

i got that johnny guitar watson album (the one w/the phallic shitty looking couch) the first song is on a few weeks ago. that whole album is pretty good. it's got a soft rock feel to the vocals, but nice funky blues instruments. kind of a cousin album to peter brown's 'do you wanna get funky with me'

jaxon, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

here's a great jon lucien track that i posted about upthread. world of joy

jaxon, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

the chasin a dream song on the first disc seems out of place to me. not sure about the mr. fingers either.

Obviously, I disagree. At the very least, they extend the fuck tension beyond the 1970s. But that Mr. Fingers track absolutely belongs. It has an essential "wrongness" to it - a house figure trying his hand at a more ballad-like tempo and song-like structure. And that uncomfortable fit works with the kind of agitation-in-the-bedroom vibe Toop has conjured up here.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 13 September 2007 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

i would like to hear this.

goole, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

like really

goole, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

goole, have you ever been here?
Leonardo Music Journal -- Awesome!!

beta blog, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

The back of his Exotica book reads "CD Available on Palm Pictures/Rykodisc." Did that ever come out?

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 25 June 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

It never came out unfortunately. Book has a discography though.

stevied, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

ugh, friend was asking me what song was similar to the Floaters "Float On" and i knew what she was thinking of but couldn't remember the name for the life of me (and i have the record). finally she remembered. surprised it's not mentioned on here already

delegation "oh honey"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeP0sAs7O_M

jaxon, Friday, 9 July 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Have the liner notes to this ever been transcribed/posted? The CD's proving a pain to track down.

etc, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

May want to ask David directly - I have his email somewhere, I could ask...

geeta, Saturday, 20 August 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

There's a copy of the album on Amazon.co.uk, albeit for £30.00.

djh, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:51 (twelve years ago) link

(Note: it's not me selling the copies that are available there.)

djh, Sunday, 21 August 2011 09:52 (twelve years ago) link

"Dr. Horse, Wild Turkey mooded, bootlegged, heats tobacco tip, sucks coronary smoke inward, illicit minded. Awake as if snakebit, a torrent of sweats, heart's motion a drum 'n' bass beakbeat, he had fallen head first out of a dream. Set in Mexican motel room, his own shaped shadow blocking hall light yet sufficient luminescence for nightmare glimpse of fishnet serpent writhing by satin shrouded alterbed where groins desire lay only one hour in past time. Whispers at the dark end of the street. Radio came on with a blast - an Acapulco disco bump groove - the fat man at the desk lip-zipped on psycho-sexual manifestations.

Just stepped out for worms liquor and narcotic plant after three straight shifts. "Taxi," yells Horse. "Take me to another part of town." Dozed in Chimpera noodle shop. Now faced with life's upset. Club managing in Mercurius Port - interplanetary e-mail booking - like clocks tick in an eternal circle. Waking life's admin little different to the nightmare's dark messages. Tired of programming music's background lull for dull-witted cerebralists. Meet 'n' greet Earthside couch parties and corporate champagning with drive-by shooting thought's masked by shiteater's grin and glad hand. Horse, doctor in audio destabilisation, prescriptions punishable, assignations dubious, marginal tasks variable, turns to Eathside remedies now available on Offworld media.

Like beer's stomach settler boom in moderation, nerves calming not always sourced in volumes of mellow. The Doctor's blue desires - notorious back home - emotions bizarre cuisine of sweet and bitter. Jack, that cat was clean, he murmurs realistically. "Baby I love you I want you I need you for ever come on back to me let me pump you all nite long" not rich or strange enough for Dr. Horse's overloaded blood. Too lowered in life's humpbacks. Too mush rising on top. Horse needed slow songs about murder, despair, life's injustice, financial vacuum, cross-dressing, flesh texture, foreplay and sleep as much as the planet's other half-needed songs about groins requirements after candlelit supper for two.

Dr. Horse accessed his collection - music called for soul once upon a time in a far off country - found items not available by absences in source material, Horse punched in switchback selection for emotions in-depth explorations of sound-word-feeling-rhythms. He cut them form a timeslice notable for uptown moods contrast of urbane sensuality and identity rehab leavening despairs pit of dashed aspirations after FBI's trickeries, war's end and economic downturn. Cool as the next fool, Horse enjoyed a disco bump but found trenchant pleasures in narcotic reversions to the infant state, agonised urban fear cries heard on discos downside, sensual skin touch after the boom-boom stops, melting into sleep states, dried tears clarity, hybrid tropic languor, machine sex and long distance love's longing.

Planetside and disengaged, Dr. Horse felt veins open, flooded by gush of aliveness. Caught up in complex emotions, chasing a dream, glad to be unhappy, remembering who he was and what he was to himself. Far inside the vibrations of a silent scream. By imagination's implant, sonic concentrating, Earthside recall, he followed Al Green around a vocal booth in Royal recording Studios, 1320 South Lauderdale, Memphis, Tennessee. Heavy lidded, Green lifts himself out of this world, circles in a trance of convulsion and loss, walks away from the microphone, claps in ecstasy. Dr. Horse is absorbed in the words "Grains of time," he ponders. "What the mothership are grains of time?" Whispering in the aether talk, he thinks he hears a faint reply..."you're a fish, I'm a water sign"...."Float on," he tells himself. Some questions, only a ballad he can answer.

David Toop"

henry s, Sunday, 21 August 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, thanks heaps, all! Been musing on the comp since Tom mentioned in this piece on The Weeknd (with a D.Toop comment) & on Tumblr re: a ballad discussion, and it seems David Toop revisited the area in a recent issue of the Wire which I'll have to track down.

etc, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

For future reference, it also appears in his collection Exotica.

Greatest compilation of all time? Maybe.

Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 22 August 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Got my hands on the issue of the Wire w/his article - five pages or so! Talks a lot about the 2cd comp Mellow Mellow: Original Smooth Grooves & Chill Beats.

etc, Thursday, 1 September 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

Great compilation. CD2 over CD1 though. Impress the laydeez.

mmmm, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

anyone want to sell me theirs? can't find it anywhere (except for 30 pounds on amazon uk)

gonzo84d, Sunday, 18 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, thanks for the revive! I am so filing this track listing.

i have this. i also sold an extra copy once for $150. i am not selling the one i still have.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

Good on you!

$150! I picked up the CD in a sale in '97. Wouldn't sell it, $150 I might though.

mmmm, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

i'm sure someone here would make the music, um, available somehow.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

30 quid doesn't seem unreasonable - it'd take more to make me sell my copy.

djh, Sunday, 18 March 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, this is one of my holy grails; hopefully now I'm in Europe rather than the antipodes I'll eventually stumble across a copy second-hand. Though yikes, if it can fetch $150 ..

etc, Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

this thread makes me feel guilty that i have this compilation hidden away in a box not too far from where i am sitting, and not really giving it the love it deserves.

mark e, Monday, 19 March 2012 08:16 (twelve years ago) link

Don't feel too bad, Mark E. I only say it is any good to increase the value. I have a vague dream of retiring from selling off David Toop compilations.

x-post: have never seen a copy of this for sale in an actual, real-life shop, etc.

djh, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

would love to scarequotes acquire this

goole, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

Think I acquired this from Amazon.co.uk last year, used, at no more than the usual cost of a new double CD. Did I just get lucky or something? In any event, here's disc 1:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/dv455h

And disc 2:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/mku4qe

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

omg thx!

goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, thanks heaps!

etc, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

six years pass...

Finally bought this today

Also hi ILX!!!!!

69, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 05:12 (five years ago) link

I was bored and couldn't find the playlist on Spotify, so I went and made it: https://open.spotify.com/user/thepoacher/playlist/2OQ6SXw373C5XjPLKlH8EZ?si=VwRxYDDiRzaszRxBpD4dGg

It's fantastic compilation - thanks for the heads up!

Someone already did the (equally excellent) Crooning on Venus one: https://open.spotify.com/user/rom2u/playlist/6XFmkiSbB5fYLkyVmXaJwG?si=w20tpRmaSQqLizqe5-niOg

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 6 August 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

Nb the Tashan track is kind of irritating. Ymmv.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 6 August 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

Amazon US has this listed in various formats and their Unlimited streaming, but all links lead to other albums, The Man In The High Castle soundtrack etc.

dow, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link


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