Pearl Jam - No Code

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Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

2xpost, dear god bring in the white lions.

f--gg (gcannon), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

actually a rutger hauer joke would have been better there.

f--gg (gcannon), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I was just spending the last 15 minutes cataloguing maps and thinking about all the crazy hair-styles vedder has had! eerie.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish I could find more Vedder mohawk pictures besides ones from the RnR Hall of Fame induction of the Ramones. I remember one time seeing a great picture of him with the mohawk playing a ukelele.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link

wasn't he supposed to keep the mohawk till there was peace, Johnny "Man In Black" Cash style?

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link

pearl jam's second best album!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I dunno I never heard that but that's awesome (xp)

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

what's the 1st?

albums I'd consider No Code being maybe 2nd to: Vitalogy, and um...maybe Yield...maybe Vs.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

OH THOSE FABULOUS PHILLIES

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

haha yeah that caught my eye too

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry so eddy, but Local H's "Eddie Vedder" >> Pearl Jam

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I almost posted the lyrics to that before I found the Yankovic lyrics.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

except maybe "Jeremy." I'll know the the lyrics to that one when I'm 80. How could I forget...

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

vitalogy's first!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

good call!

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i thought for the longest time the lyrics to 'jeremy' were "jeremy spokane / class today". cuz they're from seattle.

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~rmleyden/Music_files/image003.gif

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

THE SERPENT WAS SUBTLE

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

THE SERPENT WAS SUBTIL

one thing I remember seeming novel (when I was 12, bear with me) about Vedder was that bellow. I'd never heard anyone so emotional, so involved in the singing. I have to assume it will be at least 20 years before a 12 year old can say that again.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

and i thought til just now the lyrics went "from the black hole"!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

oh shit I knew it was spelled like "subtil" or something like that

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

holy shit me and Al are on mindmeld mode here.

(x-post yet again)

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i think its safe to say he was the most influential rock singer of the 90s. i have to imagine he's not happy about it.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

he seems to be more pissed about people biting Layne Staley's style: http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858492607

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

although that song is a hidden track on Lost Dogs at the end of "Bee Girl", so it's kind of a split tribute to Layne Staley and the girl from the Blind Melon video.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link

haha first google hit for "the serpent was subtil" is a Pitchfork review of the best-of.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to really like this album. I'm listening to it again for the first time in umpteen years. I have the nine-cards version. Apparently which cards you got was just random. Anyone got a theory about the artwork?
Random thoughts:

- The first track is great and I remember learning the simple guitar part as one of the first tunes I learnt to play. Hail, Hail kinda ruins the effect and I always skip that song.

- Tracks like Who You Are and I'm Open along with a lot of what was on Vitalogy really make me wonder why Pearl Jam have gone down in history as the "safe" AOR alternative to Nirvana who were wild and crazy. Nirvana rocked for sure but after the first two albums Pearl Jam were making some pretty odd recordings. Who Are You is NOT a grunge song for fucks sake. It's barely even a rock song.

- Off He Goes does sound like Bruce Springsteen. Very maudling.

- Red Mosquito used to be used as the background music for Talk Radio.

- Lukin is PROPER ROCKING!!!

- Around The Bend is Pearl Jam's All The Time In The World

- I'm Open is cringeworthy but I thought it was cool when I was 15.

errr... and those are my rubbish notes.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

oh yeah, this is my favorite pj record too. have fond memories of driving to the middle of nowhere w/ this as a soundtrack.

sometimes -> smile is great. dead spots = "i'm open" and the last two or three trax.

never saw why pearl jam were considered a third-rate nirvana--they always sounded much more like a third-rate neil young + crazy horse to me.

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

When I finally heard it I thought it quite good. I've only heard it the once, though. (Like every PJ album after the first two.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

This and "Vitalogy" are their best. "Off He Goes," "Hail Hail," and "Present Tense" may give the PJ haters some pause.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone got a theory about the artwork

I'm sure you realized this, but if you fold the cardboard digipak so it lays flat, you can see the outline of a pyramid with an eye in the middle.

Jeff Reguilon (Talent Explosion), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i never ever listen to this album but i really dig my vinyl copy. the packaging is amazing with all the weird color photos on thick glossy paper. musta cost them a pretty penny to make. and i bought mine new for, like, 2 bucks.they had a zillion of them at the old 3rd street jazz store for some reason.(same place i bought multiple original sealed copies of kain's blue guerilla album for a dollar apiece. they had boxes of them for some reason.) i've probably only played it twice, but i've often shown people the cool graphics.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I like this one but Yield and Vitalogy are better. Also, I heart Binaural. (but not Riot Act. Ugh.)

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah Binaural was solid but Riot Act was pretty dire.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't snooze on Riot Act!!!! Matt Cameron songs are not to be denied!

Man, I'm really surprised about the Vitalogy luv, as, from what I recall, there were a few stunt tracks ("Bugs", "foxymophandlefivedollars") that perved the rest of the batch. And "Nothingman" did no damn thang for moi. But, yeah, most of it is nice.

I'm a Yield / Binaural man, myself (w/ Binaural as the better album, but Yield being my fave), & No Code is close behind. Bless you, Al.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, Riot Act had some moments. the drab filler drags it down, though, in my opinion a lot moreso than the bizarro filler on Vitalogy, which has at least 7 or 8 of their very best songs.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I definitely go through phases where Yield is my favorite.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link

The one track on Yield whose intro sounds like "Academy Fight Song" always gives me goosebumps.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:50 (nineteen years ago) link

in the five minutes I was listening to the radio tonight walking between the libraries I work at, "Corduroy" came on. EERIE.

miccio (miccio), Monday, 14 March 2005 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Bought this in high school when it was new and I was still trying to like Pearl Jam. Realized: Hmm, I'll never like Pearl Jam. Went on with my life.

marc h., Monday, 14 March 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

No Code is by far their best album, for me anyway. It's them at their most relaxed, their most creative, and it's farthest away from Ten that they got without forcing it. It's hard for me to pick a favorite track, but my least fave is definitely 'I'm Open', which to my mind just feels like a big rip off of 'Deep Kick' by RHCP. I think RHCP came first in 1995, then PJ in 1996...that's not the point, but I heard 'Deep Kick' first and 'I'm Open' just felt hollow to me.

Riot Act is great, but I think the problem with the last couple of albums has been that they're getting into Grateful Dead territory where the live shows surpass the album in terms of importance, and the album is just there to mark the beginning of a new tour. It's in their live shows that the new songs come into their own, and on the album they sound like it's just bare bones. "You Are" is a great song, but the album version pales in comparison to how it sounds live. Then again, maybe it's just that I've become a Deadhead. *weeps*

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 March 2005 06:41 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, I hear you on that, definitely in the case of Riot Act, it felt like the most minor part of the whole album-tour cycle. and I kinda wish that they didn't always do the cycle in that exact order nowadays, that album in particular would've probably benefitted from road-testing the material first.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I always thought "Ten" and "Vs" their worst albums. "Vitalogy" is where the fun really begins.

OTM Vegemite Grrl. I'm far from a fan, but I've seen'em live the last couple of tours. They're one of few acts who draw inspiration by their opening acts; when Sleater Kinney and Sonic Youth opened for them on the last couple of tours PJ were incredible.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, Ten was my least favorite for a long time (up until Riot Act). Vs. has some really good songs, though.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Vs. is wretched for the most part, Ten has a few very good moments. Neither album has dated very well.

I think Binaural is their most underrated album - not a real dud track in the lot.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

"No Code" was at least an attempt to do something different. The only Pearl Jam album where all of the songs don't sound alike. They may have failed, but should be honoured for the attempt.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 14 March 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

VegemiteGrrl OTM

I remember selling Bi... back as soon as I heard a live record that had most of the songs on it and thinking "wow, maybe I'll just buy the live records as they come out, the songs sound better than on the studio records."

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 March 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

'in hiding' is a good pj song as far as the more (relatively) recent stuff goes.

the ballads haven't been good since vitalogy

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

No one was as shocked as I was. But it shouldn't have been, as they've improved with each album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 11:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the first track on No Code, but it's all ruined by the second one which comes in with all the welcomness of an irritating alarm clock.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 12:20 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

Ha - I actually prefer the cover art to the actual album (which has decent enough songs, but Eddie and/or the production just fucks 'em all up).

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah his vocal performances on that album are easily the worst of his career. beyond a couple decent singles I don't understand any of the love for s/t.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link

"Mankind" is the reason I once almost considered buying the Stone Gossard solo album.

:)

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't think i've ever seen al so excited about anything ever

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah I don't know what I was on that day.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link

aw come on

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

haha I meant the day I started this thread, not the day I considered buying a Stone Gossard album. is it good? should I?

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I have no idea! I don't think I've gotten within light years of any Pearl Jam side project. All my drinking money these days gets spent on keeping up with members of Veruca Salt.

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw a Brad music video on 120 Minutes once. It was a gentle AC piano ballad with Shawn Smith asking you to think what makes you laugh and think what makes you sing. Stone was putting some sparse wacka-chicka on it.

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

All I remember about the Mad Season song they'd play on the radio is jesus christ I hate Layne Stanley.

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

RIVER OF DECEIT

oh fuck you miccio

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

"the only direction to go is down"

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember a Brad song with lots of slap-bass.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

haha yeah I think Stone had to get his funk jones elsewhere once Pearl Jam banished its wah wah pedal/touring with RHCP/"Dirty Frank" beginnings post-Vs..

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

still a great record!!

ian, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

they were on an episode of Austin City Limits recently, and Eddie did "Lukin" ACOUSTIC WITH A STRING SECTION and they also played "Red Mosquito" w/ Ben Harper on slide guitar, it was like the whole thing was geared toward No Code geeks like me.

some dude, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

weird that probably my 2 most enthusiastic threads ever (this & Philadelphia Freeway) were revived on the same day.

some dude, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"Smile" sounds great.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 March 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link


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