What should become of John Peel's record collection now?

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yeah digitise. that's the way.

piscesboy, Friday, 29 October 2004 15:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

They should frame each authenticated 7", 12", CD, etc, then auction them off as art, proceeds going to charity. Then interested museums (EMP, etc.) and collectors can snag the good stuff for high prices, which helps out the charities/museums/obsessive collectors, leaving the more obscure and esoteric selections to be bought by fans wanting a piece of Peel's legacy hanging on their wall - or playing on their stereo, to get all dada.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

Not Bonhams.

NOT BONHAMS.

I cannot stress this enough.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

It must go to the National Sound Archive (part of the British Library and a fantastic institution) get digitised and then released to the public as things fall out of copyright.

I absolutely agree. The thought of an American radio company buying his collection makes me feel sick to my stomach.

Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

I have far more implicit faith in the idea that said company will not get it, it seems, in that I'm not troubled at all. Still, the flipside is I wouldn't be surprised either if it did turn out that way.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

Who is this bidder attempting buying the collection from anyway? Surely they belonged to Peel, so would be owned legally now by Sheila and their children? Who, I imagine, wouldn't sell for any amount of money to an "unsuitable" buyer, given the personal importance of the goods at stake.

British Library/National Sound Archive is a good one if it were to go somewhere outwith the family.

Or else a huge car boot sale out the back of Peel Acres.

ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I wonder who the buyer is too. Certainly pretty ghoulish, I mean the man isn't even back in the UK, never mind laid to rest and the vultures are already seeing what goodies they can pick over.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 29 October 2004 16:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

the royal fams should annex that shit like roman gold. crown jewels!

autovac (autovac), Friday, 29 October 2004 20:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

----the vultures are already seeing what goodies they can pick over.

It's records, man. He'd prob understand.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 30 October 2004 00:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

Damn, try again... Peel wanted to leave record collection to natio

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 31 October 2004 10:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

Peel wanted to leave collection to nation
By Anthony Barnes, Arts and Media Correspondent
31 October 2004


The broadcaster John Peel held discussions with the British Library about leaving his extraordinary record collection to the nation prior to his death last week.

The Radio 1 DJ, one of the most influential figures in music over the past four decades, amassed an unrivalled array of vinyl, CDs and tapes from around the world. His exhaustive collection, made up of many of the bands he loved such as the Fall, the Undertones and obscure African acts as well as early demos from bands that went on to make it big, ran to hundreds of thousands, all carefully stored in alphabetical order.

It would be the biggest and most important batch of material ever deposited with the national Sound Archive, which is held by the British Library. It is not clear what will happen to Peel's collection because his will has not yet been made public, if indeed he made one.

Peel's widow, Sheila, and other members of the family are still in Peru, where he died of a heart attack on Monday while on a working holiday. They are arranging the return of his body and are expected back in the UK early this week.

The archive's curator for popular music, Andy Linehan, visited the DJ at his home in Suffolk to examine the stack of music which had to be housed in a purpose-built extension owing to its size. "It's a fantastic collection. The nature of the material that was sent to him was the kind of stuff that we couldn't possibly get hold of," he said.

The Sound Archive, largely housed at the library in St Pancras, London, runs to around 2.5 million important recordings. Unlike the library of print publications, there is no legal requirement to deposit material, so it relies on donations and acquisitions.

Peel had been a tireless champion of new music from the days of mid-1960s psychedelia when he first began broadcasting in the UK as a pirate DJ. His enthusiasm helped many of the world's biggest bands find an audience, including Led Zeppelin, Nirvana and the White Stripes, during his 37 years at Radio 1.

His death at 65 left the music world in mourning and prompted glowing eulogies from those who are indebted to his patronage such as Elvis Costello, Feargal Sharkey and Jarvis Cocker. His friend Roger McGough yesterday presented a special edition of Home Truths, the Radio 4 series Peel created looking at the quirks and strains of family life. It featured some of the most memorable moments from the show.

Peel's long-time manager, Clive Selwood, confirmed the discussions with the British Library. "The idea certainly had favour with him, but we'll just have to see what happens. We would have to act in the best interests of the family. It should stay in England, but I've got to try to look after the interests of the family. This was his great asset. He was never a great saver of money."
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herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Monday, 1 November 2004 06:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

I am in awe of all of this, entirely. It's going to take some time to squeeze that man into the past tense in my brain.

Bimble (bimble), Monday, 1 November 2004 08:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

7 years pass...

John Peel’s record collection to become an “online interactive museum”

http://www.factmag.com/2012/02/23/john-peels-record-collection-to-become-an-online-museum/

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

..won't actually be able to play any of the records... but..

Mark G, Thursday, 23 February 2012 17:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

I miss this man.

Turrican, Friday, 24 February 2012 01:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

HOLY SHIT U GUYS

http://www.thestoolpigeon.co.uk/features/news-john-peel-archive-to-go-online-may-1.html

THE FIRST 100 records from John Peel’s personal record collection will be online as of tomorrow (May 1).

The records are being archived as part of an online museum project called The Space, which hopes to digitise the entirety of the late Radio 1 DJ’s whopping vinyl stash — some 25,000 vinyl LPs, 40,000 vinyl singles

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Monday, 30 April 2012 12:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wonder what sort of order they're going to do these in?

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Monday, 30 April 2012 12:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Update: According to The Independent [via Twitter], the collection will not – as was previously claimed – be streamable

Anyways...
http://thespace.org/

Mark G, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

awwww :(

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Monday, 30 April 2012 12:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

So what's the point, then?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 30 April 2012 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

"This is one of the greatest libraries ever. PS the books are all encased in glass."

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is what FACT said, guess we'll find out tomorrow:

It will, however, showcase Peel’s meticulous cataloging system he had where, for each record, he would “type out a filing card for every album. Starting in 1969, he made a postcard-sized card for each new LP, and inscribed the name of the album; the name of the band and all the tracks.”

In the words of Sheila Ravenscroft, John Peel’s widow, “Even just within those first 100 records from each letter, I think people are going to be very interested as to what’s in the collection. I think they will be amused and intrigued by it.“There’ll be information about the record sleeve, front and back, all the information about the record itself, as well as whether John rated the album or not.”

“Then out of those first 100, we’ve chosen one artist that we’re honing in on, that we’re going to do a special thing on each week.”

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, this is all quite neat to look at, but the actual content seems to be a bit like a card file version of discogs.com but with a lot less detail.

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ha, they have AMT listed as Acid Mothers Today

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe there is some mystical aspect at being able to view this stuff that I'm failing to grasp.

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

So, you have to watch the video to find out what, exactly, they are going to do with it.

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I do appreciate the spotify link to Mike Absalom who I always meant to check out but kept forgetting about.

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

"This is one of the greatest libraries ever. PS the books are all encased in glass."

eh -- "this is one of the greatest libraries ever but we haven't digitized all the books so the website is just a catalogue, what were you expecting" -- the curatorial issues don't really work the same way. i wonder what percentage of the 25,000 LPs + 40,000 singles is actually not available in digital form already somewhere.

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Among the first artists are Abba, ABC, AC/DC and Adam & The Ants.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-17894985

BBC getting a great handle on his role as champion of the obscure and unsung.

Touché Gödel (ledge), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

huge copyright problems with just digitising these albums and putting them online, am surprised anyone thought that they would. (actually, i'm not, kids today...)

koogs, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah seriously wtf?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually, there must be records in there that are out of copyright, most of Pig's Big 78s for instance. and those British Hit Parade 1961 compilations on amazon suggest that anything before 1961 is fair game... (although i think the rules have just changed again, thanks Cliff)

koogs, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

a lot of people are gonna be disappointed to find out it mostly contains grindcore. not me.

kid steel (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Does 20,000 albums seem, um, not that many? Or am I massively underestimating how 'many' that is?

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

it means of all the albums he heard every year from his fifteenth birthday from his death, he found 400 that he thought were worth keeping

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

until his death, even

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kept Scoundrel Days, binned Hunting High & Low

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

so, ten a week then.

I can only imagine the volume he 'rejected' then, how do you get rid of those sorts of quantities of stuff?

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

leave them in a box at maida vale for people to take? i dunno, it doesn't seem that tough

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyway, what this demonstrates is that john peel's average critical nous over a lifetime should be ranked at .4 peak weingartens

thomp, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess, mainly because I'm imagining these all being sent to "Peel Acres" as was.. (xposT)

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i see there are spotify links provided for most records so its not as useless as people are saying - there was no possible way they'd ever have the cash and time to clear every one of those records.

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 12:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

so am i missing the part where you can look at front and back covers and info on records? the record spine thing is annoying.

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Does 20,000 albums seem, um, not that many? Or am I massively underestimating how 'many' that is?

16,573 of them are Fall records.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

so am i missing the part where you can look at front and back covers and info on records?

You have to click on them!

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

i did. i'll try a different browser.

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

i guess if yer gonna own just one roy acuff record, that's the one.

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

NERD RAGE - is this in the order he left them in, or is it meant to be alphabetical? Because I've just clicked through Acceleradeck-Abyssinians-Accrington Stanley, and now I'm cross.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah, okay, works with firefox. pictures are too small though. and taking pictures of the inner sleeves is kinda crazy. nice closeups of the labels would have been urgent and key as people like to say.

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 13:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nice big chunk of Cabaret Voltaire

That Cactus World News album is terrible though

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Only goes up to Cameo, so Captain Beefheart just squeezed out

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

or do people file him under 'B'?

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Randy California album is great, 'Downer' is such a mean-sounding song.

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oops, Califone record mislabelled as Calexico...

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sure you've already discussed this upthread, but are the index card numbers just Peel's chronological handiwork? We seem to get into the 20000s around the mid-'90s.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I think he started numbering in the late sixties (?), so all the ones bought prior to that are in alphabetical order, and everything bought subsequently just gets the next number as it comes thru the door.

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Everett True tries his hand at what David Stubbs started a couple of weeks ago by doing the 'C's:

http://thequietus.com/articles/08799-john-peel-record-collection-everett-true

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

this mike absalom album is so lovely!

Impetuous hybrid (Matt P), Monday, 4 June 2012 17:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't think anyone's mentioned this, they are scanning a bunch of letters and other ephemera from Peel's collection as well:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnpeelarchive/

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 12:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is lovely from terry

http://thespace.org/items/e000080q

Crackle Box, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

This guy had way more Sammy Hagar records than I ever would have guessed.

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

only four Half Man Half Biscuit albums?! im surprised

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 09:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, he's got more Hall & Oates than that, must've all been on CD

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 10:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

'X' shelf was a bit sparse after all:

http://thespace.org/content/s000004u/albums/recordbox.html?jpID=X

Wouldn't mind that Xhol record, could take or leave most of the rest of it.

Superphysical Resurrection (NickB), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 10:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

This also now leaves a strange and unpleasant taste in the mouth.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 13:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmmm yeah, i hear you

Superphysical Resurrection (NickB), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 13:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

for anyone still following this, i've been making playlists of the spotifyable stuff.

here's the big a-x one.

http://open.spotify.com/user/grannykart/playlist/7e2UT382pTSwuFcgQSLJAj

here's a "best of" with 130 tracks (there will be more when y and z are posted):

http://open.spotify.com/user/grannykart/playlist/3c6GRo8jtVwikKMfhoYByc

sriracha bishop (get bent), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

awesome work, much appreciated.

Spectrum, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 19:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

shocked he didn't have Los Angeles by X!

rap game klaus nomi (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink


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