Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

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I think this thread has my first evah post on ILX (I think my opinions on eelctronic have changed quite a bit since then).

dada- you should get selected ambient works vol II. I heard the first disc of that last evening. its really wonderful 'ambient' stuff. great to read books with.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

neither classic nor dud - just hugely overrated.

I think the general feeling on Aphex Twin is surely that he makes far better videos than records.

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

russ t, Monday, 12 May 2003 11:06 (12 years ago) Permalink

great to read books with.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...), May 12th, 2003.

Julio: "Once upon a time there was a little bear named Pooh..."

SAW V.2: "Who lived in the House At Pooh Corner..."

Julio: "One day Pooh's friend Piglet came round for tea, and said to Pooh-"

SAW V.2: "'Come on you cunt let's have some of that Aphex Acid!!!!'"

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:08 (12 years ago) Permalink

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

I like doodly nonsense, I like unlistenable, I like "making it up as he goes along" - someone direct me to the doodly unlistenable shit he makes up as he's going along.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (12 years ago) Permalink

classic. for the ambient records especially. the more drum'n'bass-y ones don't do it for me quite as much, but then i'm not really into drum'n'bass. i feel like i'm on rocky territory if i start calling him a genius, as i'd feel i have to give reasons other than the beauty of the music. and that's all that matters, really.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (12 years ago) Permalink

yeah that's spot on nick.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (12 years ago) Permalink

I like those jungle inspired recs. its not all good but some amazing tracks came out of that. also search windowlicker and come to daddy singles.

I think SAW II + I think there's enuff to make a wonderful two CD 'best of'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:13 (12 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
classic,and not just because i own 7 of his albums.I really do believe he is a classic if only for SAWII and "I care..."those two cd's are possibly my faveorite albums ever and underneath fall my boc albums and then the rest of my aphex twin collection.I am interested in autecher and squarepusher but I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on....oh and I do like underground stuff too,donato wharton's "is that why yr still on earth" is breathtaking and makes me cry everytime i hear it...

Caleb, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:04 (11 years ago) Permalink

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

I'm a fan.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:55 (11 years ago) Permalink

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

This actually makes perfect sense to me. I used to have to deal with this. (Not just because of the $ factor, but also because it takes me a long time to "absorb" new material, and I get ansy when there's stuff piling up that I'm really itching to soak up, but haven't been able to give my full attention to.)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:46 (11 years ago) Permalink

What's up with RDJ these days, anyway? All the big Aphex websites seem to be defunct or otherwise non-operational...

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:52 (11 years ago) Permalink

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:16 (11 years ago) Permalink

He should hang out with D'Angelo.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:22 (11 years ago) Permalink

he did a good interview with the wire a few months back. did anybody mention that?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:28 (11 years ago) Permalink

I noticed that interview, but I have nowhere to buy the Wire. (And I figured it would end up eventually on the "watmm.com" website.) What did he have to say?

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:48 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
what is this?

:| (....), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:20 (11 years ago) Permalink

Anal lord, eh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:22 (11 years ago) Permalink

maybe he's picked up some new hobbies?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:14 (11 years ago) Permalink

according to luke vibert, aphex has been fully analogue for a while and this is the result

Barnaby (Barnaby), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:20 (11 years ago) Permalink

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

If that's the plan, he was smart to grow the beard early.


What's the story behind Melodies from Mars?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:55 (11 years ago) Permalink

here's what Mike Paradinas (aka µ-Ziq) says about it:

Luke played me some of the hundreds of tracks earmarked for this Analord series and they are beautiful. More like SOSW* & CW**. But really good clear production. Lots of acid lines, but also a lot of melody & pads... Mostly analog(ue): 303, 606, 808, 909 and his collection of synths (a nice bit of chunky doepfer acid) but a few with breaks too.

* Surfing On Sine Waves
** Caustic Window

Melodies From Mars is rumored to be a demo that he sent to video game companies for them to use in their games. in any case they're probably just outtakes from the RDJ album period since a longer version of Fingerbib is on it.

joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:53 (11 years ago) Permalink

Aphex Twin? Neither classic nor dud. Yes the guy has some absolutely insanely awesome tunes ("Come to Daddy"! "Windowlicker"! "Pacman Powerpill"! "On"!), but he has like three times as many sucky ones as he does good ones. Does anybody out there really like GAK? Or Hangable Auto Bulb? Or almost every song on the boring-as-hell Analogue Bubblebath series?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:04 (11 years ago) Permalink

what? hangable auto bulb is amazing. ARCHED MAID VIA RDJ.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:07 (11 years ago) Permalink

Have there been earlier releases in this series already? This is number 10? (And why is it under "2001releases" in the URL?)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:38 (11 years ago) Permalink

Whoa:

http://www.richarddjames.com/

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:41 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Supermodels Tyra Banks and Richard D. James:

Lingbertt, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

holy shit thats UNCANNY

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

Heheheheh

Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

who is that?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Aphex sucks. Their style is weak.

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

they broke up last year

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yo APHEX can I have your buchla modular?

why cause it looks intrsting

Display Name, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

What really broke up Aphex Twin was the increasing tension within the group, which was kind of inevitable when you consider that Richard was devoting more and more time to card battle games, James' personality was being warped by his addiction to painkillers, and D's only true desire was to become a family man, now as much as ever. The Richard D. James album was really the last time they functioned as a cohesive group. On the bright side, I've heard Richard was working on a new solo project, and James, always a collaborator and producer above all, will surely find new talent to work with. There's also the possibility of a comeback album in the future, as long as one of the key members doesn't croak (fingers crossed!).

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

they still suck though

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

of course there are some song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

Wait, now I'm confused. Do they suck or not? Because I need to know.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

they suck with a few song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

kind of like you, but you don't write songs.

John Justen, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

do u like their cover of scorpions 'windowlicker'

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

In retrospect it's clear that the title "Druckqs" was a not-so-veiled jab at RDJ's former bandmates.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

So they suck 100% of the time, except for when they were making those songs? Do they temporarily cease sucking if they perform those songs live? What if they mix two of their sucks together, and one sucks, and one doesn't? Do they suck 50% for the duration?

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

Take my hand, Captain! Together we will arrive at the truth!

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

Lukas, I think the crucial issues are which members of the Aphex Twin Band sucked the most, and who was carrying the band the majority of the time. To the first, I'd say D. definitely sucked the most. To the second, I'd actually argue that the rotating cast of studio drummers probably added an elegance to the band that could not have existed otherwise.

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. Shame what happened to most of those drummers.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

of course there are some song exceptions

Yeah, their songs are the best part. Richard has a fantastic voice.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

The session drummers allegedly hated having to lay those drill n bass beats down, but they were pros and did the job as asked. R/D/J were real dictators in the studio. No one could satisfy them.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

Aphex Twin Band back in their heyday, with original drummer Fred Ugolon (R.I.P.)

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

which is the best Aphex Twin solo/side project? Polygon Window, AFX, or Caustic Window?

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:34 (8 years ago) Permalink

i wd always travel down to London as it is closer to hell than the North is

Daphnis Celesta, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp I guess old Cornish habits die hard

at about the same latitude as London, I have not come to any conclusion about whether London is up or down, except that I might get the train down to London and the bus up to London, because those are more euphonious pairings

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

actually I think it's the other way round

don't mind me

as a desperate attempt to be on topic, I quite liked that first track, but if it is the best track on the album then I'm not 100% sold yet (who am I kidding, I'll probably preorder)

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_directions

In British practice, railway directions are usually described as up and down, with up being towards a major location. This convention is applied not only to the trains and the tracks, but also to items of lineside equipment and to areas near a track. Since British trains run on the left, the up side of a line is on the left when proceeding in the up direction. The names originate from the early railways, where trains would run up the hills to the mines, and down to the ports.

On most of the network, up is the direction towards London. In most of Scotland, with the exception of the West and East Coast Main Lines, up is towards Edinburgh. The Valley Lines network around Cardiff has its own peculiar usage, relating to the original meaning of travelling up and down the valley. On the former Midland Railway up was towards Derby. Mileposts normally increase in the down direction

Individual tracks will have their own names, such as Up Main or Down Loop. Trains running towards London are normally referred to as Up trains, and those away from London as Down. Hence the Down Night Riviera runs to Penzance and the Up Flying Scotsman to Kings Cross.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, it's entirely possible that Richard's reference is more that Cornish habit of calling everything on the other side of the Tamar "Up Country", but technically and officially, "up" is towards London. (And after discussion on twitter, it emerges that in Ireland, all trains going towards Dublin are "up", regardless of geographical direction.)

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Derail

smithery loves cuntery (wins), Friday, 5 September 2014 22:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

A bit like RAM, the track-by-track reviews from the listening parties have got me super excited. Fingers crossed.

groovypanda, Friday, 5 September 2014 23:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

love this gear list pic

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

drukqs pwns

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

drukqs more like DrUDkqs amirite

the late great, Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

NO

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

drukqs might be his second-best album after saw2!!!

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

incomparable albums, but drukqs destroys saw 2.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 6 September 2014 01:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

Listened to "Selected Ambient Works 85-92" last night while I did photoshop work. Incredible stuff.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:34 (5 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

I know this might seem like a useless revival/joke, but I'm actually being serious about the following:

I have to watch my nine-year-old nephew a lot, and, as a matter course, I just often tend to have music on in the background. I don't really think about it, and we sort of listen to everything together.
Anyway, ever since he was about two or three, he would waddle his way up the stairs to my bedroom and ask for music, specifically asking if we could "dance! dance!".
Of course, I would always oblige him. So our favorites were (my favs at the time), were "Lush 3-1" and "Lush 3-2" by Orbital, '76:14' by Global Communication (there's a couple danceable tracks on there), and random Richard D. James Material. I would take my little man and swing him from his arms and we'd spin in a circle and we'd just dance around like crazy. I miss those days.

Anyway, I've listened to SAW I in front of him a few times, lately. He's nine, now.
Recently, I caught him listening to "Xtal" alone with himself, on his iPad on Youtube, in the living room, when I wasn't paying attention to him.
He actually searched Aphex/the song up himself! I was really kind of proud of him! Techno and my other tastes have seemed to actually rub off on him (not that I had any plan to inculcate him with any of that, whatever).

It actually occurred to me, however. Now that he's searching Aphex Twin by himself on his iPad (keep in mind, he's nine), I'm worried he'll come across things like "Come to Dadddy" or "Windowlicker", etc.
There are probably other inappropriate things that I might also worry about him searching for, as well.

So, what to do? If I tell him something like, "No more Aphex Twin without my permission", I know he'll just look more of it up on his own (I don't want him coming across the disturbing videos). I could say nothing, and maybe he'll forget about Aphex Twin. Um, but it's not like I'm to stop listening to music in front of him, either.

Silly question, I know. I wish his parents had never given him a phone or iPad. What do parents say, here!?

potential trouble source (monster mash), Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:42 (2 months ago) Permalink

It was seriously funny when I caught him listening to "Xtal" alone, though. He was just laying on the couch and staring at his iPad, and just bobbing his head up and down with his big old afro!

potential trouble source (monster mash), Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:47 (2 months ago) Permalink

It's a lovely story, and re: what to do, maybe talk to his parents, I'm sure they're facing similar issues already?

fka styx (paul santa cruz), Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:57 (2 months ago) Permalink

i was... 8 or 9 years old when i fist saw the come to daddy video on mtv, and loved it. still do.
my advice would be to just let the little guy live his life.

BringTheAuBonPain, Monday, 23 November 2015 01:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

in fact!
i remember showing my little niece a bunch of chris cunningham videos when she was a toddler. maybe 3 or 4 years old. she was a huge fan of the horrors' "sheena is a parasite"... good times. now she won't shut up about one direction.

BringTheAuBonPain, Monday, 23 November 2015 01:53 (2 months ago) Permalink

i'm also worried that if i keep listening to afx and autechre with him, that he'll rebel as a teenager by listening to eric clapton!

potential trouble source (monster mash), Monday, 23 November 2015 02:11 (2 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

This looks new? And good.

https://soundcloud.com/user18081971/ngaimodu-bradley-stryder

toby, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:41 (1 month ago) Permalink


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