Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

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I think this thread has my first evah post on ILX (I think my opinions on eelctronic have changed quite a bit since then).

dada- you should get selected ambient works vol II. I heard the first disc of that last evening. its really wonderful 'ambient' stuff. great to read books with.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

neither classic nor dud - just hugely overrated.

I think the general feeling on Aphex Twin is surely that he makes far better videos than records.

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

russ t, Monday, 12 May 2003 11:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

great to read books with.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...), May 12th, 2003.

Julio: "Once upon a time there was a little bear named Pooh..."

SAW V.2: "Who lived in the House At Pooh Corner..."

Julio: "One day Pooh's friend Piglet came round for tea, and said to Pooh-"

SAW V.2: "'Come on you cunt let's have some of that Aphex Acid!!!!'"

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

I like doodly nonsense, I like unlistenable, I like "making it up as he goes along" - someone direct me to the doodly unlistenable shit he makes up as he's going along.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

classic. for the ambient records especially. the more drum'n'bass-y ones don't do it for me quite as much, but then i'm not really into drum'n'bass. i feel like i'm on rocky territory if i start calling him a genius, as i'd feel i have to give reasons other than the beauty of the music. and that's all that matters, really.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah that's spot on nick.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like those jungle inspired recs. its not all good but some amazing tracks came out of that. also search windowlicker and come to daddy singles.

I think SAW II + I think there's enuff to make a wonderful two CD 'best of'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
classic,and not just because i own 7 of his albums.I really do believe he is a classic if only for SAWII and "I care..."those two cd's are possibly my faveorite albums ever and underneath fall my boc albums and then the rest of my aphex twin collection.I am interested in autecher and squarepusher but I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on....oh and I do like underground stuff too,donato wharton's "is that why yr still on earth" is breathtaking and makes me cry everytime i hear it...

Caleb, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm a fan.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

This actually makes perfect sense to me. I used to have to deal with this. (Not just because of the $ factor, but also because it takes me a long time to "absorb" new material, and I get ansy when there's stuff piling up that I'm really itching to soak up, but haven't been able to give my full attention to.)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

What's up with RDJ these days, anyway? All the big Aphex websites seem to be defunct or otherwise non-operational...

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

He should hang out with D'Angelo.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

he did a good interview with the wire a few months back. did anybody mention that?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I noticed that interview, but I have nowhere to buy the Wire. (And I figured it would end up eventually on the "watmm.com" website.) What did he have to say?

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
what is this?

:| (....), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Anal lord, eh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

maybe he's picked up some new hobbies?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

according to luke vibert, aphex has been fully analogue for a while and this is the result

Barnaby (Barnaby), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

If that's the plan, he was smart to grow the beard early.


What's the story behind Melodies from Mars?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:55 (twelve years ago) Permalink

here's what Mike Paradinas (aka µ-Ziq) says about it:

Luke played me some of the hundreds of tracks earmarked for this Analord series and they are beautiful. More like SOSW* & CW**. But really good clear production. Lots of acid lines, but also a lot of melody & pads... Mostly analog(ue): 303, 606, 808, 909 and his collection of synths (a nice bit of chunky doepfer acid) but a few with breaks too.

* Surfing On Sine Waves
** Caustic Window

Melodies From Mars is rumored to be a demo that he sent to video game companies for them to use in their games. in any case they're probably just outtakes from the RDJ album period since a longer version of Fingerbib is on it.

joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Aphex Twin? Neither classic nor dud. Yes the guy has some absolutely insanely awesome tunes ("Come to Daddy"! "Windowlicker"! "Pacman Powerpill"! "On"!), but he has like three times as many sucky ones as he does good ones. Does anybody out there really like GAK? Or Hangable Auto Bulb? Or almost every song on the boring-as-hell Analogue Bubblebath series?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

what? hangable auto bulb is amazing. ARCHED MAID VIA RDJ.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Have there been earlier releases in this series already? This is number 10? (And why is it under "2001releases" in the URL?)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Whoa:

http://www.richarddjames.com/

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Supermodels Tyra Banks and Richard D. James:

Lingbertt, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:35 (eleven years ago) Permalink

holy shit thats UNCANNY

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:50 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Heheheheh

Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:30 (eleven years ago) Permalink

who is that?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:31 (eleven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Aphex sucks. Their style is weak.

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

they broke up last year

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yo APHEX can I have your buchla modular?

why cause it looks intrsting

Display Name, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

What really broke up Aphex Twin was the increasing tension within the group, which was kind of inevitable when you consider that Richard was devoting more and more time to card battle games, James' personality was being warped by his addiction to painkillers, and D's only true desire was to become a family man, now as much as ever. The Richard D. James album was really the last time they functioned as a cohesive group. On the bright side, I've heard Richard was working on a new solo project, and James, always a collaborator and producer above all, will surely find new talent to work with. There's also the possibility of a comeback album in the future, as long as one of the key members doesn't croak (fingers crossed!).

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

they still suck though

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

of course there are some song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

Wait, now I'm confused. Do they suck or not? Because I need to know.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

they suck with a few song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

kind of like you, but you don't write songs.

John Justen, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

do u like their cover of scorpions 'windowlicker'

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

In retrospect it's clear that the title "Druckqs" was a not-so-veiled jab at RDJ's former bandmates.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

So they suck 100% of the time, except for when they were making those songs? Do they temporarily cease sucking if they perform those songs live? What if they mix two of their sucks together, and one sucks, and one doesn't? Do they suck 50% for the duration?

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

Take my hand, Captain! Together we will arrive at the truth!

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

Lukas, I think the crucial issues are which members of the Aphex Twin Band sucked the most, and who was carrying the band the majority of the time. To the first, I'd say D. definitely sucked the most. To the second, I'd actually argue that the rotating cast of studio drummers probably added an elegance to the band that could not have existed otherwise.

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah. Shame what happened to most of those drummers.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

of course there are some song exceptions

Yeah, their songs are the best part. Richard has a fantastic voice.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

The session drummers allegedly hated having to lay those drill n bass beats down, but they were pros and did the job as asked. R/D/J were real dictators in the studio. No one could satisfy them.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

Aphex Twin Band back in their heyday, with original drummer Fred Ugolon (R.I.P.)

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:33 (nine years ago) Permalink

which is the best Aphex Twin solo/side project? Polygon Window, AFX, or Caustic Window?

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

he's very high on the bangin' spectrum, like steve poindexter was, but different time and context.

map, Monday, 29 August 2016 01:03 (three months ago) Permalink

aliens are always fresh.

map, Monday, 29 August 2016 01:04 (three months ago) Permalink

that ep is so slept on; love it

clouds, Monday, 29 August 2016 13:05 (three months ago) Permalink

love it. don't say it because i don't want to listen to arguments from nostalgists but he's at the height of his powers right now imo

Ban Lencowink (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 August 2016 13:13 (three months ago) Permalink

agreed -- deeper, subtler, more dynamic, funkier, etc etc etc

clouds, Monday, 29 August 2016 13:16 (three months ago) Permalink

yes to all that

Ban Lencowink (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 August 2016 13:17 (three months ago) Permalink

Chosen Lords/Rushup Edge/Ophaned Deejay Selek/Syro/Cheetax EP is a pretty remarkable run - clouds is right, but to some extent it's coming at the expense of his unparalleled oddness - he's not quite as fun to talk about anymore. Reminds me a bit of what's going on with Autechre, the old stuff is classic but I find myself reaching for the new stuff much more often. Even if for no other reason than it sounds fantastic.

frogbs, Monday, 29 August 2016 13:40 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah, it all sounds amazing.

map, Monday, 29 August 2016 15:14 (three months ago) Permalink

Aphex and Ae's progressions have felt very different to me. Autechre seem to have always been striving for the type of sound they've achieved in the last decade from the very start, and now that they've really nailed down their process, they're having fun and experimenting with composition and timbre in really rewarding ways.

Conversely, RDJ seems to have kind of locked in to this particular sound and mode of composition ever since Analord that is starting to get a bit stale to my ears, though a few tracks on some of his recent EPs have been interesting, they still exhibit a lot of the "sameness" of the rest of his 21st century output. I miss his playfulness, that trollish desire to take the piss in tracks in some creatively brilliant ways, that edge, and it feels like he's now simply making very satisfyingly cromulent electronic music.

octobeard, Monday, 29 August 2016 16:34 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah, i dunno. there's blatant goofiness to "CIRCLONT14" (shrymoming mix), with the shifting hi-hat patterns and instances where the beat is so straightforward, they're augmented/emphasized as if he's saying "look at how dumb this is", and the gnarled, 20-step bass breakdown midway through the track - it's like an elaborate piss take. papat4 is just joyous.. the slick, rubbery bass lines are so effortlessly pert and buoyant-sounding, and those stuttered snare and tambourine bits -- it's so malleable and fluid-sounding. and then there's "s950tx16wasr10" (earth portal mix), which is possibly the 'deepest', most fleshed-out and varied track on the album, sort of a late grower. the first couple tracks of the album do feel refined, but Syro is all over the place, and it's undeniably playful. the Tuss eps really are the cream of the crop, imo. it does seem like he's zeroed in on a rich (but not super-varied?) sound palette. whatever mode he might be locked into, it's pleasurable enough. the way you described Ae in the first part of your post could to apply to RDJ over the last decade, though he's not fucking around with structure and composition in such extreme ways (like Ae).. i wouldn't say that he's solidified yet.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 29 August 2016 19:08 (three months ago) Permalink

There's a really cool website here: http://user18081971.watmm.com/

that lets you vote on the various soundcloud tracks and then see what tracks have gotten the most votes. It's actually really helpful for sorting through the soundcloud tracks and I've found quite a few that are great. There's also a complete rip of the soundcloud tracks on watmm's aphex twin forum. Or I think you can find a torrent somewhere also.

I wasn't very excited about the SC tracks at first but now that I've heard some of the top voted ones, I think that there's some album quality stuff in there. The Cheetah track itself I think was chosen for release because of how many votes it got on that site, lol.

what_have_you, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 14:50 (three months ago) Permalink

do you have to vote to see the results?

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:05 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm still spinning Syro on a regular basis. Great record.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:08 (three months ago) Permalink

frogbs--no, but you do have to link it to a soundcloud account, I think, which is somewhat annoying.

what_have_you, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:21 (three months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

electric wight dorkestra (crüt), Monday, 7 November 2016 23:11 (one month ago) Permalink

dddoes this hint at future dates as well???

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Monday, 7 November 2016 23:51 (one month ago) Permalink

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 13 November 2016 04:58 (four weeks ago) Permalink

https://youtu.be/dqxqbc4x4AA

AFX (Aphex Twin) - 21 Forgotten T

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 13 November 2016 04:59 (four weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

am0n, Friday, 2 December 2016 16:13 (one week ago) Permalink

hah awesome

frogbs, Friday, 2 December 2016 16:33 (one week ago) Permalink

that is pretty amazing tbf

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Friday, 2 December 2016 16:37 (one week ago) Permalink


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