Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

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I think this thread has my first evah post on ILX (I think my opinions on eelctronic have changed quite a bit since then).

dada- you should get selected ambient works vol II. I heard the first disc of that last evening. its really wonderful 'ambient' stuff. great to read books with.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

neither classic nor dud - just hugely overrated.

I think the general feeling on Aphex Twin is surely that he makes far better videos than records.

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

russ t, Monday, 12 May 2003 11:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

great to read books with.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...), May 12th, 2003.

Julio: "Once upon a time there was a little bear named Pooh..."

SAW V.2: "Who lived in the House At Pooh Corner..."

Julio: "One day Pooh's friend Piglet came round for tea, and said to Pooh-"

SAW V.2: "'Come on you cunt let's have some of that Aphex Acid!!!!'"

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

I like doodly nonsense, I like unlistenable, I like "making it up as he goes along" - someone direct me to the doodly unlistenable shit he makes up as he's going along.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

classic. for the ambient records especially. the more drum'n'bass-y ones don't do it for me quite as much, but then i'm not really into drum'n'bass. i feel like i'm on rocky territory if i start calling him a genius, as i'd feel i have to give reasons other than the beauty of the music. and that's all that matters, really.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

yeah that's spot on nick.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

I like those jungle inspired recs. its not all good but some amazing tracks came out of that. also search windowlicker and come to daddy singles.

I think SAW II + I think there's enuff to make a wonderful two CD 'best of'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
classic,and not just because i own 7 of his albums.I really do believe he is a classic if only for SAWII and "I care..."those two cd's are possibly my faveorite albums ever and underneath fall my boc albums and then the rest of my aphex twin collection.I am interested in autecher and squarepusher but I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on....oh and I do like underground stuff too,donato wharton's "is that why yr still on earth" is breathtaking and makes me cry everytime i hear it...

Caleb, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm a fan.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

This actually makes perfect sense to me. I used to have to deal with this. (Not just because of the $ factor, but also because it takes me a long time to "absorb" new material, and I get ansy when there's stuff piling up that I'm really itching to soak up, but haven't been able to give my full attention to.)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

What's up with RDJ these days, anyway? All the big Aphex websites seem to be defunct or otherwise non-operational...

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

He should hang out with D'Angelo.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

he did a good interview with the wire a few months back. did anybody mention that?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

I noticed that interview, but I have nowhere to buy the Wire. (And I figured it would end up eventually on the "watmm.com" website.) What did he have to say?

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:48 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
what is this?

:| (....), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

Anal lord, eh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

maybe he's picked up some new hobbies?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

according to luke vibert, aphex has been fully analogue for a while and this is the result

Barnaby (Barnaby), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:20 (8 years ago) Permalink

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

If that's the plan, he was smart to grow the beard early.


What's the story behind Melodies from Mars?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

here's what Mike Paradinas (aka µ-Ziq) says about it:

Luke played me some of the hundreds of tracks earmarked for this Analord series and they are beautiful. More like SOSW* & CW**. But really good clear production. Lots of acid lines, but also a lot of melody & pads... Mostly analog(ue): 303, 606, 808, 909 and his collection of synths (a nice bit of chunky doepfer acid) but a few with breaks too.

* Surfing On Sine Waves
** Caustic Window

Melodies From Mars is rumored to be a demo that he sent to video game companies for them to use in their games. in any case they're probably just outtakes from the RDJ album period since a longer version of Fingerbib is on it.

joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

Aphex Twin? Neither classic nor dud. Yes the guy has some absolutely insanely awesome tunes ("Come to Daddy"! "Windowlicker"! "Pacman Powerpill"! "On"!), but he has like three times as many sucky ones as he does good ones. Does anybody out there really like GAK? Or Hangable Auto Bulb? Or almost every song on the boring-as-hell Analogue Bubblebath series?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

what? hangable auto bulb is amazing. ARCHED MAID VIA RDJ.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

Have there been earlier releases in this series already? This is number 10? (And why is it under "2001releases" in the URL?)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

Whoa:

http://www.richarddjames.com/

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Supermodels Tyra Banks and Richard D. James:

Lingbertt, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

holy shit thats UNCANNY

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

Heheheheh

Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

who is that?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Aphex sucks. Their style is weak.

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

they broke up last year

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yo APHEX can I have your buchla modular?

why cause it looks intrsting

Display Name, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

What really broke up Aphex Twin was the increasing tension within the group, which was kind of inevitable when you consider that Richard was devoting more and more time to card battle games, James' personality was being warped by his addiction to painkillers, and D's only true desire was to become a family man, now as much as ever. The Richard D. James album was really the last time they functioned as a cohesive group. On the bright side, I've heard Richard was working on a new solo project, and James, always a collaborator and producer above all, will surely find new talent to work with. There's also the possibility of a comeback album in the future, as long as one of the key members doesn't croak (fingers crossed!).

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

they still suck though

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

of course there are some song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

Wait, now I'm confused. Do they suck or not? Because I need to know.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

they suck with a few song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

kind of like you, but you don't write songs.

John Justen, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

do u like their cover of scorpions 'windowlicker'

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

In retrospect it's clear that the title "Druckqs" was a not-so-veiled jab at RDJ's former bandmates.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

So they suck 100% of the time, except for when they were making those songs? Do they temporarily cease sucking if they perform those songs live? What if they mix two of their sucks together, and one sucks, and one doesn't? Do they suck 50% for the duration?

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Take my hand, Captain! Together we will arrive at the truth!

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

Lukas, I think the crucial issues are which members of the Aphex Twin Band sucked the most, and who was carrying the band the majority of the time. To the first, I'd say D. definitely sucked the most. To the second, I'd actually argue that the rotating cast of studio drummers probably added an elegance to the band that could not have existed otherwise.

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. Shame what happened to most of those drummers.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

of course there are some song exceptions

Yeah, their songs are the best part. Richard has a fantastic voice.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

The session drummers allegedly hated having to lay those drill n bass beats down, but they were pros and did the job as asked. R/D/J were real dictators in the studio. No one could satisfy them.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Aphex Twin Band back in their heyday, with original drummer Fred Ugolon (R.I.P.)

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

which is the best Aphex Twin solo/side project? Polygon Window, AFX, or Caustic Window?

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

I would suggest going early to see the rain thing there but queues for it are prett crazy atm and probably everyone else will have had the same idea.

ledge, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:27 (7 months ago) Permalink

I was trying to get in the mood listening to SAWs on the bus. But it's not going to be SAWs, it's going to be something completely new and different and orchestral. So I should be excited about that aspect, that it will probably be completely unpredictable and unexpected, no matter what he is doing.

What is the rain thing? I have a couple of hours to kill but I hate queueing.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:28 (7 months ago) Permalink

http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=13723

ledge, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:29 (7 months ago) Permalink

TWO HOUR QUEUE TIMES?!?!?!?

I haven't got that much time to kill. Looks cool, tho.

But after experiencing Orcadian rainstorms last week I am not really keen to experience any more rain, art or no.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:31 (7 months ago) Permalink

"I know what you mean about Bangface. I've never actually been but if it's anything like the Planet-µ night I attended several years ago now, there's an intense level of fawning geekery pervasive throughout the night, and not in a pleasant way. I don't really know what Aphex fans are like these days mind you."

No no no. Bangface is full of young people off their tits on ridiculous amounts of drugs lots of nakedness drawing on each other silly sweaty dancing glowsticks very very trash dreadlocks gurning that sort of thing. I tend to go once every... few years.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:08 (7 months ago) Permalink

^^^that is what I suspected about Bangface, so the combination of Bangface plus Newquay was just one of those... "um, just, no." moments for me.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:13 (7 months ago) Permalink

I had fun at the club nights back in the day but (I think I posted this before somewhere) people's descriptions of previous Bangface festivals reminded me of what you read about, like, Deadheads in the 80s, after the good times had gone and it was just burnouts

it's the Suede/Denim secret police/they have come for your 90s niece (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:22 (7 months ago) Permalink

No no no. Bangface is full of young people off their tits on ridiculous amounts of drugs lots of nakedness drawing on each other silly sweaty dancing glowsticks very very trash dreadlocks gurning that sort of thing. I tend to go once every... few years.

― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 12:08 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh well that's okay then. Rather a bunch of mental ravers dancing about than a room full of sweaty dorks crowing for obscure Wagon Christ B-sides.

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:25 (7 months ago) Permalink

Oh just fucking shut up.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:27 (7 months ago) Permalink

you're not a very nice person, you know that?

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:28 (7 months ago) Permalink

Like, we get it, how over IDM you are.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:28 (7 months ago) Permalink

I'm just really sick of how you feel the need to come on any thread and stomp all over anyone's possible joy or excitement over it. I get it, you're not into this any more. You're allowed to move on and leave it to other people. You don't have to ruin it for everyone else.

Oh god why the fuck am I even talking to Dog Latin?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:30 (7 months ago) Permalink

If I'm feeling iffy about a gig or an artist, ILM is the worst possible place I could come. Why do I never learn this? Stupid me for not learning after 1000 times.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:32 (7 months ago) Permalink

Um sorry but I don't think DL was doing any stomping at all, given that all he did was get the demographics of the Bangface crowd wrong.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:40 (7 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Meantime, a little flashback to 1993:

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2013 14:48 (3 months ago) Permalink

jesus what happened up there ^^^^

frogbs, Friday, 8 February 2013 14:51 (3 months ago) Permalink

british humour

Crackle Box, Friday, 8 February 2013 15:12 (3 months ago) Permalink

woah just looked at two threads in one day featuring poster Ludo. weeeyerd.

andrew m., Friday, 8 February 2013 16:54 (3 months ago) Permalink

Am I allowed to say "I miss the Old Trout, Windsor" again?

Mark G, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:58 (3 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Heard "Actium" on a big system yesterday. Sounded fantastic, was suprisingly danceable, and holy hell that's a lot of bass.

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 29 April 2013 03:31 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Am I allowed to say "I miss the Old Trout, Windsor" again?

you sure can... so many memories for me too

I was at that Aphex Twin gig... i remember a load of the indie/rave kids being REALLY freaked out by all the noise stuff he was playing, and me and one other bloke (who happened to be wearing a Hafler Trio t-shirt) being really into it....

Stop the tape I got spittle all over my moustache. (Talcum Mucker), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:07 (3 weeks ago) Permalink


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