Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

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I think this thread has my first evah post on ILX (I think my opinions on eelctronic have changed quite a bit since then).

dada- you should get selected ambient works vol II. I heard the first disc of that last evening. its really wonderful 'ambient' stuff. great to read books with.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

neither classic nor dud - just hugely overrated.

I think the general feeling on Aphex Twin is surely that he makes far better videos than records.

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

russ t, Monday, 12 May 2003 11:06 (11 years ago) Permalink

great to read books with.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...), May 12th, 2003.

Julio: "Once upon a time there was a little bear named Pooh..."

SAW V.2: "Who lived in the House At Pooh Corner..."

Julio: "One day Pooh's friend Piglet came round for tea, and said to Pooh-"

SAW V.2: "'Come on you cunt let's have some of that Aphex Acid!!!!'"

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:08 (11 years ago) Permalink

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

I like doodly nonsense, I like unlistenable, I like "making it up as he goes along" - someone direct me to the doodly unlistenable shit he makes up as he's going along.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (11 years ago) Permalink

classic. for the ambient records especially. the more drum'n'bass-y ones don't do it for me quite as much, but then i'm not really into drum'n'bass. i feel like i'm on rocky territory if i start calling him a genius, as i'd feel i have to give reasons other than the beauty of the music. and that's all that matters, really.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (11 years ago) Permalink

yeah that's spot on nick.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (11 years ago) Permalink

I like those jungle inspired recs. its not all good but some amazing tracks came out of that. also search windowlicker and come to daddy singles.

I think SAW II + I think there's enuff to make a wonderful two CD 'best of'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:13 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
classic,and not just because i own 7 of his albums.I really do believe he is a classic if only for SAWII and "I care..."those two cd's are possibly my faveorite albums ever and underneath fall my boc albums and then the rest of my aphex twin collection.I am interested in autecher and squarepusher but I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on....oh and I do like underground stuff too,donato wharton's "is that why yr still on earth" is breathtaking and makes me cry everytime i hear it...

Caleb, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm a fan.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

This actually makes perfect sense to me. I used to have to deal with this. (Not just because of the $ factor, but also because it takes me a long time to "absorb" new material, and I get ansy when there's stuff piling up that I'm really itching to soak up, but haven't been able to give my full attention to.)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

What's up with RDJ these days, anyway? All the big Aphex websites seem to be defunct or otherwise non-operational...

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

He should hang out with D'Angelo.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

he did a good interview with the wire a few months back. did anybody mention that?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

I noticed that interview, but I have nowhere to buy the Wire. (And I figured it would end up eventually on the "watmm.com" website.) What did he have to say?

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
what is this?

:| (....), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

Anal lord, eh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

maybe he's picked up some new hobbies?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

according to luke vibert, aphex has been fully analogue for a while and this is the result

Barnaby (Barnaby), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

If that's the plan, he was smart to grow the beard early.


What's the story behind Melodies from Mars?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

here's what Mike Paradinas (aka µ-Ziq) says about it:

Luke played me some of the hundreds of tracks earmarked for this Analord series and they are beautiful. More like SOSW* & CW**. But really good clear production. Lots of acid lines, but also a lot of melody & pads... Mostly analog(ue): 303, 606, 808, 909 and his collection of synths (a nice bit of chunky doepfer acid) but a few with breaks too.

* Surfing On Sine Waves
** Caustic Window

Melodies From Mars is rumored to be a demo that he sent to video game companies for them to use in their games. in any case they're probably just outtakes from the RDJ album period since a longer version of Fingerbib is on it.

joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

Aphex Twin? Neither classic nor dud. Yes the guy has some absolutely insanely awesome tunes ("Come to Daddy"! "Windowlicker"! "Pacman Powerpill"! "On"!), but he has like three times as many sucky ones as he does good ones. Does anybody out there really like GAK? Or Hangable Auto Bulb? Or almost every song on the boring-as-hell Analogue Bubblebath series?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

what? hangable auto bulb is amazing. ARCHED MAID VIA RDJ.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

Have there been earlier releases in this series already? This is number 10? (And why is it under "2001releases" in the URL?)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

Whoa:

http://www.richarddjames.com/

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Supermodels Tyra Banks and Richard D. James:

Lingbertt, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

holy shit thats UNCANNY

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

Heheheheh

Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

who is that?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Aphex sucks. Their style is weak.

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

they broke up last year

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yo APHEX can I have your buchla modular?

why cause it looks intrsting

Display Name, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

What really broke up Aphex Twin was the increasing tension within the group, which was kind of inevitable when you consider that Richard was devoting more and more time to card battle games, James' personality was being warped by his addiction to painkillers, and D's only true desire was to become a family man, now as much as ever. The Richard D. James album was really the last time they functioned as a cohesive group. On the bright side, I've heard Richard was working on a new solo project, and James, always a collaborator and producer above all, will surely find new talent to work with. There's also the possibility of a comeback album in the future, as long as one of the key members doesn't croak (fingers crossed!).

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

they still suck though

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

of course there are some song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wait, now I'm confused. Do they suck or not? Because I need to know.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

they suck with a few song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

kind of like you, but you don't write songs.

John Justen, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

do u like their cover of scorpions 'windowlicker'

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

In retrospect it's clear that the title "Druckqs" was a not-so-veiled jab at RDJ's former bandmates.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

So they suck 100% of the time, except for when they were making those songs? Do they temporarily cease sucking if they perform those songs live? What if they mix two of their sucks together, and one sucks, and one doesn't? Do they suck 50% for the duration?

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

Take my hand, Captain! Together we will arrive at the truth!

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Lukas, I think the crucial issues are which members of the Aphex Twin Band sucked the most, and who was carrying the band the majority of the time. To the first, I'd say D. definitely sucked the most. To the second, I'd actually argue that the rotating cast of studio drummers probably added an elegance to the band that could not have existed otherwise.

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. Shame what happened to most of those drummers.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

of course there are some song exceptions

Yeah, their songs are the best part. Richard has a fantastic voice.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

The session drummers allegedly hated having to lay those drill n bass beats down, but they were pros and did the job as asked. R/D/J were real dictators in the studio. No one could satisfy them.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

Aphex Twin Band back in their heyday, with original drummer Fred Ugolon (R.I.P.)

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

which is the best Aphex Twin solo/side project? Polygon Window, AFX, or Caustic Window?

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

fred phlaps

Wii u mario me? (wins), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

A couple of those Caustic Window tracks have been released before, no? I have "Cunt" on a comp I bought in 1994, and the version on that Youtube playlist is the same one (and it still sounds as awful as it did 20 years ago). I guess the rest of the tracks could still be fake, though...

Tuomas, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

There's a number of drum parts, synth settings and melodic styles that are absolute classic RDJ trademarks circa 1990-1994 on this. Also the two comp tracks. If these are fake, then this whole board is fake; each thread produced by some form of music nerd AI. Nothing to see here.

octobeard, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:38 (1 month ago) Permalink

a couple of the tracks have been released before, no?

yeah, i believe two of them came out in the 90s on compilations.

I guess the rest of the tracks could still be fake, though...

nope

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

two more test pressings of unreleased albums have appeared on ebay.

OMG

i really hope these make it to the 'net

diamonddave85‌ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

Yeah, I have no doubts about this being genuine either.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 19:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

does it make any difference if fake or real?

saer, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 19:56 (1 month ago) Permalink

i really hope these make it to the 'net

Melodies was on CD and online for years already.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 20:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

So was AB5, no?

aaliyah papi (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 20:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

Melodies was on CD and online for years already.

i always assumed that bootleg going around was a fake

diamonddave85‌ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 21:17 (1 month ago) Permalink

i hope not, because i've been listening to it (and analogue bubblebath 5) for the past 10 years!

clouds, Thursday, 19 June 2014 13:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

This isn't the first time he's been accused of being in on a hoax. It reminds me of the Black Devil Disco Club reissue from a few years ago. This writer seems convinced it actually was a hoax and seems kind of angry about it on this review for the follow up album. http://www.allmusic.com/album/28-after-mw0000573787

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 19 June 2014 14:26 (1 month ago) Permalink

I'm thinking it was actually wise not to release this in 1994 because it really does sound super similar to a lot of stuff he was doing at the time. Though releasing under Caustic Window probably would have alleviated a lot of that

aaliyah papi (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 June 2014 15:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

how have I never heard of Black Devil Disco Club before???

macklin' rosie (crüt), Thursday, 19 June 2014 15:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

Ugh that Black Devil review is so obnoxious. What a wanker. It's a great album!

everything, Thursday, 19 June 2014 16:43 (1 month ago) Permalink

Some of us were listening to Black Devil Disco Club well before Rephlex reissued it.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

But we also thought there was no way it was from the 70s either.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:20 (1 month ago) Permalink

It was.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:20 (1 month ago) Permalink

Oh yeah the Black Devil Disco Club album is fantastic as is 28 After. I always wondered how many people had actually heard it before the 2004 reissue. I certainly hadn't heard it before then.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 19 June 2014 22:01 (1 month ago) Permalink

I'm thinking it was actually wise not to release this in 1994 because it really does sound super similar to a lot of stuff he was doing at the time. Though releasing under Caustic Window probably would have alleviated a lot of that

Too much of a good thing? The change of moniker wouldn't really combat that anyway, but isn't it also possible that it's just really original great music? Despite being massive influential, I can't think of many artists who entirely replicate this kind of early 90s RDJ sound...

MikoMcha, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

the phone pranks track gave me an unexpected nostalgia rush.

3kDk (dog latin), Thursday, 26 June 2014 13:31 (3 weeks ago) Permalink


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