Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

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I think this thread has my first evah post on ILX (I think my opinions on eelctronic have changed quite a bit since then).

dada- you should get selected ambient works vol II. I heard the first disc of that last evening. its really wonderful 'ambient' stuff. great to read books with.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

neither classic nor dud - just hugely overrated.

I think the general feeling on Aphex Twin is surely that he makes far better videos than records.

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

russ t, Monday, 12 May 2003 11:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

great to read books with.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...), May 12th, 2003.

Julio: "Once upon a time there was a little bear named Pooh..."

SAW V.2: "Who lived in the House At Pooh Corner..."

Julio: "One day Pooh's friend Piglet came round for tea, and said to Pooh-"

SAW V.2: "'Come on you cunt let's have some of that Aphex Acid!!!!'"

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

I like doodly nonsense, I like unlistenable, I like "making it up as he goes along" - someone direct me to the doodly unlistenable shit he makes up as he's going along.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

classic. for the ambient records especially. the more drum'n'bass-y ones don't do it for me quite as much, but then i'm not really into drum'n'bass. i feel like i'm on rocky territory if i start calling him a genius, as i'd feel i have to give reasons other than the beauty of the music. and that's all that matters, really.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

yeah that's spot on nick.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

I like those jungle inspired recs. its not all good but some amazing tracks came out of that. also search windowlicker and come to daddy singles.

I think SAW II + I think there's enuff to make a wonderful two CD 'best of'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
classic,and not just because i own 7 of his albums.I really do believe he is a classic if only for SAWII and "I care..."those two cd's are possibly my faveorite albums ever and underneath fall my boc albums and then the rest of my aphex twin collection.I am interested in autecher and squarepusher but I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on....oh and I do like underground stuff too,donato wharton's "is that why yr still on earth" is breathtaking and makes me cry everytime i hear it...

Caleb, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm a fan.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

This actually makes perfect sense to me. I used to have to deal with this. (Not just because of the $ factor, but also because it takes me a long time to "absorb" new material, and I get ansy when there's stuff piling up that I'm really itching to soak up, but haven't been able to give my full attention to.)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

What's up with RDJ these days, anyway? All the big Aphex websites seem to be defunct or otherwise non-operational...

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:16 (9 years ago) Permalink

He should hang out with D'Angelo.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

he did a good interview with the wire a few months back. did anybody mention that?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

I noticed that interview, but I have nowhere to buy the Wire. (And I figured it would end up eventually on the "watmm.com" website.) What did he have to say?

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
what is this?

:| (....), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

Anal lord, eh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

maybe he's picked up some new hobbies?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

according to luke vibert, aphex has been fully analogue for a while and this is the result

Barnaby (Barnaby), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

If that's the plan, he was smart to grow the beard early.


What's the story behind Melodies from Mars?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

here's what Mike Paradinas (aka µ-Ziq) says about it:

Luke played me some of the hundreds of tracks earmarked for this Analord series and they are beautiful. More like SOSW* & CW**. But really good clear production. Lots of acid lines, but also a lot of melody & pads... Mostly analog(ue): 303, 606, 808, 909 and his collection of synths (a nice bit of chunky doepfer acid) but a few with breaks too.

* Surfing On Sine Waves
** Caustic Window

Melodies From Mars is rumored to be a demo that he sent to video game companies for them to use in their games. in any case they're probably just outtakes from the RDJ album period since a longer version of Fingerbib is on it.

joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

Aphex Twin? Neither classic nor dud. Yes the guy has some absolutely insanely awesome tunes ("Come to Daddy"! "Windowlicker"! "Pacman Powerpill"! "On"!), but he has like three times as many sucky ones as he does good ones. Does anybody out there really like GAK? Or Hangable Auto Bulb? Or almost every song on the boring-as-hell Analogue Bubblebath series?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

what? hangable auto bulb is amazing. ARCHED MAID VIA RDJ.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

Have there been earlier releases in this series already? This is number 10? (And why is it under "2001releases" in the URL?)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

Whoa:

http://www.richarddjames.com/

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Supermodels Tyra Banks and Richard D. James:

Lingbertt, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

holy shit thats UNCANNY

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

Heheheheh

Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

who is that?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Aphex sucks. Their style is weak.

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

they broke up last year

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yo APHEX can I have your buchla modular?

why cause it looks intrsting

Display Name, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

What really broke up Aphex Twin was the increasing tension within the group, which was kind of inevitable when you consider that Richard was devoting more and more time to card battle games, James' personality was being warped by his addiction to painkillers, and D's only true desire was to become a family man, now as much as ever. The Richard D. James album was really the last time they functioned as a cohesive group. On the bright side, I've heard Richard was working on a new solo project, and James, always a collaborator and producer above all, will surely find new talent to work with. There's also the possibility of a comeback album in the future, as long as one of the key members doesn't croak (fingers crossed!).

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

they still suck though

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

of course there are some song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

Wait, now I'm confused. Do they suck or not? Because I need to know.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

they suck with a few song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

kind of like you, but you don't write songs.

John Justen, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

do u like their cover of scorpions 'windowlicker'

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

In retrospect it's clear that the title "Druckqs" was a not-so-veiled jab at RDJ's former bandmates.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

So they suck 100% of the time, except for when they were making those songs? Do they temporarily cease sucking if they perform those songs live? What if they mix two of their sucks together, and one sucks, and one doesn't? Do they suck 50% for the duration?

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

Take my hand, Captain! Together we will arrive at the truth!

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Lukas, I think the crucial issues are which members of the Aphex Twin Band sucked the most, and who was carrying the band the majority of the time. To the first, I'd say D. definitely sucked the most. To the second, I'd actually argue that the rotating cast of studio drummers probably added an elegance to the band that could not have existed otherwise.

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. Shame what happened to most of those drummers.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

of course there are some song exceptions

Yeah, their songs are the best part. Richard has a fantastic voice.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

The session drummers allegedly hated having to lay those drill n bass beats down, but they were pros and did the job as asked. R/D/J were real dictators in the studio. No one could satisfy them.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

Aphex Twin Band back in their heyday, with original drummer Fred Ugolon (R.I.P.)

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

which is the best Aphex Twin solo/side project? Polygon Window, AFX, or Caustic Window?

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

Probably because his brand of conceptualism goes against what is considered to be the norm in 'proper' house and techno. Also because his historic pranks, interviews and the way he markets himself are more in line with rock/pop traditions of identity whereas house and techno often strives to erase the author and let the music speak for itself without attachment to a personality.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Monday, 14 April 2014 11:42 (6 days ago) Permalink

idk I don't like house or techno but I like Aphex (and others) because they don't just go UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS for ten minutes

ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 14 April 2014 12:26 (6 days ago) Permalink

so you haven't actually heard any house or techno, got it.

clouds, Monday, 14 April 2014 12:30 (6 days ago) Permalink

I don't think most people think of Aphex Twin's music as dance music so I don't know why it would be weird to not like dance music but to like Aphex Twin

silverfish, Monday, 14 April 2014 12:59 (6 days ago) Permalink

maybe not! but I will never let reality get in the way of dismissing entire sub-genres for arbitrary and/or inaccurate reasons

ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 14 April 2014 13:00 (6 days ago) Permalink

it's 2014, are these the best trolls we cd get?

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 April 2014 13:42 (6 days ago) Permalink

what if they went ULTROS ULTROS ULTROS ULTROS for ten minutes

From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Monday, 14 April 2014 13:46 (6 days ago) Permalink

'Aphex Twin's Historic Pranks' would be a good intermittent Viz strip along the lines of Elton John's series of smalltime scams

From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Monday, 14 April 2014 13:48 (6 days ago) Permalink

Why is it that a lot of people who don't like dance music like Aphex Twin

Because Radiohead and Kanye.

Seriously, though, I was playing "Drukqs" a year or so ago, and someone I was with perked up at "Avril 14th" and recognized it as the song Kanye sampled.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 April 2014 14:35 (6 days ago) Permalink

the ghosts of dead pom-bears (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 14 April 2014 21:49 (6 days ago) Permalink

Aphex Twins lustige Streiche

clouds, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:36 (6 days ago) Permalink

I like the UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS type of dance music, and I don't like Aphex (except for some early tracks, when he was still making UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS music), so I guess there's truth to this.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 11:47 (5 days ago) Permalink

smelly unts

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 11:50 (5 days ago) Permalink

I misread that as "UNITS UNITS UNITS UNITS" and I thought, man, songs that are nothing but units, units, units, units are pretty much my favourite thing in the world, whether it's techno or dronerock or what.

Branwell Bell, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 12:26 (5 days ago) Permalink

Unts Unts Unts <---- going to use that for a song title

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 12:27 (5 days ago) Permalink

Because Radiohead and Kanye.

Seriously, though, I was playing "Drukqs" a year or so ago, and someone I was with perked up at "Avril 14th" and recognized it as the song Kanye sampled.

It was the case before Kid A or Drukqs though. His stuff often obeys some of the 'rules' of rock and works in a non club/dance context. This album cover explains it pretty well, really.

Also I don't think having an aversion to UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS is necessarily a rockist or luddite reaction. It's more like the guy who asked What's with that constant cymbal tapping in jazz drumming?. I can see where he's coming from sometimes - a few times I've been in Germany or Holland and the constant immersion in (usually pretty lousy) techno can start to grate.

B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 12:44 (5 days ago) Permalink

Unts Unts Unts <---- going to use that for a song title

check the b-side on this 1998 single

brock out with your cock out (sic), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 13:02 (5 days ago) Permalink

BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 13:22 (5 days ago) Permalink

Also I don't think having an aversion to UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS is necessarily a rockist or luddite reaction.

it's not even a reaction worth considering. "reaction" implies familiarity. it's tantamount to saying "i hate japanese films because they're all about samurai"

it's maybe surprising that ppl still lump house and techno together under the banner of "dumb dance music" using some spurious hierarchization of "depth" in music. it also has frankly homophobic undertones to me (house arose out of gay post-disco subculture, gay culture is vapid, consumerist, etc.)

clouds, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:00 (5 days ago) Permalink

xtal

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:45 (5 days ago) Permalink

i was just listening to delphium and thinking how great it would sound mixed into quadrant dub

clouds, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 11:53 (4 days ago) Permalink


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