― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link
Did Whoopi selling the machine in a foreign country remind anyone of Arrested Developements Corn Baller?
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link
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― horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link
when i saw him do standup a couple years ago he bombed, entirely, and spent about 10 minutes talking about wiping (anal sex) blood off of his dick with the window curtains before leaving.
actually that sounds sort of funny, but it was a lot less funny at the time.
― max (maxreax), Friday, 12 January 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link
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― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link
The what?
― hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link
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― max (maxreax), Saturday, 13 January 2007 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link
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― rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Saturday, 13 January 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link
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― The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Saturday, 13 January 2007 07:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Redd And The Blecch (Ken L), Saturday, 13 January 2007 07:04 (seventeen years ago) link
I wept when I heard that one.
― musically (musically), Saturday, 13 January 2007 07:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Saturday, 13 January 2007 08:46 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Nathan P1p (hoyanathan), Saturday, 13 January 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Super Cub (Debito), Saturday, 13 January 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link
"cheese and crackers!"
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 14 January 2007 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Baldwin on the phone: "You hang up, Maureen ... no, you hang up ... okay, on three ... one, two, three ... no, I didn't hang up either, Maureen ... wait, Maureen, you're breaking up ... I lost the call." [proceeds to have whole other conversation, then turns to assistant] "Get me Maureen Dowd back on the phone."
― nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link
one-sided phone jokes are a very fertile source of humour! ask bob newhart
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:19 (seventeen years ago) link
Anyway. Top five moments so far:
1. Dennis' speech to Liz. "I cried like a big dumb homo." And "You have chosen to abort me." (I miss Dennis.)2. "I have two ears and a heart, don't I?"3. Tracy falls asleep on Conan. It's all about the buildup to it.4. "I already have a drink. Do you think he'll buy me mozzarella sticks?"5. Pretty much every line delivered by Alec Baldwin. But maybe especially, "I know what I know. Next time I see Putin I'm going to kick his teeth in."4.
― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Sunday, 14 January 2007 10:21 (seventeen years ago) link
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― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Sunday, 14 January 2007 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link
lemon: "You're wearing a TUXEDO?"
baldwin: "it's after 6, i'm not a farmer"
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 14 January 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― max (maxreax), Sunday, 14 January 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― A B C (sparklecock), Sunday, 14 January 2007 20:35 (seventeen years ago) link
-- M@tt He1geson (matt@game[remove]informer.com), January 14th, 2007. (Matt Helgeson) (later) (link)
i was trying to remember that one!
― zombierza (tehresa), Sunday, 14 January 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link
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― there to preserve disorder (kenan), Monday, 15 January 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― baron kickass von awesomehausen (nickalicious), Monday, 15 January 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― baron kickass von awesomehausen (nickalicious), Monday, 15 January 2007 23:04 (seventeen years ago) link
I also want to come back to the Lynn Swann/Black Swan joke because everyone else is processing that as "lol isn't it funny that the White woman is in blackface" and I'm processing it as "it isn't funny that these two deranged idiots are so in sync that they independently came up with this grossly inappropriate idea and are blithely following through on it as if it was normal"
Like, to me the entire thrust of the joke is that Jenna and Paul are both fucking insane, not that blackface is in and of itself funny.
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 29 June 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link
totally agree w that.. but intent can excuse an awful lot in comedy, no? let's look again at Tina feys 'apology'
"As we strive to do the work and do better in regards to race in America, we believe that these episodes featuring actors in race-changing make-up are best taken out of circulation," wrote Fey."I understand now that 'intent' is not a free pass for white people to use these images. I apologise for pain they have caused. Going forward, no comedy-loving kid needs to stumble on these tropes and be stung by their ugliness.
"I understand now that 'intent' is not a free pass for white people to use these images. I apologise for pain they have caused. Going forward, no comedy-loving kid needs to stumble on these tropes and be stung by their ugliness.
what is the intent of comedy? there are a whole lot of things one can say and do with the undeniable intention of making somebody laugh, and clearly there is a line that gets set. I think of the newsworthy 'jokes'/ugly outbursts from tosh + Michael richards, etc... the intention is to use ugly shocking imagery to create laughter... if you're on stage at a comedy club there is at least some obvious establishment of your intent. those 'jokes' may have been massively unsuccessful, and/ or their context may have been stripped by encountering them from a headline rather than in the environment of a comedy club... so really, what's the difference here? we assume that someone on the writers room knows better, so it's ok?
― lumen (esby), Monday, 29 June 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
This is wholly disingenuous.
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
If you legitimately can’t tell the difference between “I am using an offensive practice to showcase my character’s depravity” and “I am going to threaten to rape a heckler because they heckled me” I don’t really know what to tell you.
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
this has been a bizarre conversation and I don't feel compelled to give my white guy opinion apart from noting that there are plenty of black people who have brought their own experiences to bear on the topic and thought this through and have come to different conclusions than those given on this thread, and they should be respected
― k3vin k., Monday, 29 June 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
I think having been an extremely online person on twitter and seeing so much "Tina fey is problematic" Tina fey is the encapsulation of everything that is wrong with white liberal feminism etc." content over and over throughout the last 10 years or so it's quite odd to see virtually no-one on this thread think that having 4 blackface jokes in your sitcom in the 21st century is sus. I suppose it's a generational thing.
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
Netflix just needs a filter that turns actors in blackface into gun sounds
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
on a lighter note I rewatched some of the first couple of seasons the other day and it was v good. show holds up. best sitcom of recent times imo
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
I think having been an extremely online person on twitter and seeing so much "Tina fey is problematic" Tina fey is the encapsulation of everything that is wrong with white liberal feminism etc." content
lol yeah I was scrolling the thread waiting for someone to bring up Jane Krakowski playing a "Lakota" woman in Kimmy Schmidt
― rob, Monday, 29 June 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link
YES.
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
The synchronicity of the first season of Kimmy Schmidt with the reveal of Rachel Dolezal still amazes me
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 29 June 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link
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well no you don't know what to tell me because you elided or ignored my point about context and intent. tosh was clearly by intent not 'threatening' anyone, he was standing on stage at a comedy club performing comedy. characterizing what he said that way is more disingenuous than anything i said.
i get that in the mind of ilxors comedy clubs are places where men go to talk about how rape is sweet and lets go do some raping, but in reality they are places where people voluntarily go to hear outrageous things with the intention of being made to laugh. it's actually a very similar context to making a joke on a tv show, only there's not another character to appear on screen and recite morality to the audience - the context is more implied from the act of comeding in the first place.
so yeah, i think defending 30 rock is easy because there is constant woke messaging throughout the show, they literally say 'we are making a joke! blackface is wrong!'... where in the examples i cited they are harder to defend because that context isn't said, only implied. BUT, regardless of the success of each 'joke', it really is the same context, and i think a defense of one warrants a defense of the other.
― lumen (esby), Monday, 29 June 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link
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― j., Monday, 29 June 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
esby: ilxors are woke hive-mindnearly every ilxor on this thread: actually the blackface in 30 rock is coolreal woke people: tina fey must be killed
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Monday, 29 June 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
The context of the Tosh outburst wasn't "this statement is wrong", it was "stfu and stop interrupting my show", which is why comedians engage hecklers.
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 29 June 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
Esby is more like, "if you defend 30 rock, you must also defend my right to laugh at blackface, regardless of context."
― Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Monday, 29 June 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/peep-show-blackface-netflix-scene-removed-dance-class-a9591021.html
Was joking about this being removed and now it is.It's a punchline as to how batshit Nancy is as she gets Jez to 'break more and more taboos' and iirc the reveal is he's in blackface going 'Are you sure this isn’t racist?' and she says 'f*** me and pretend I'm your mother'. So obviously meant to be all kinds of wrong.
― kinder, Monday, 29 June 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
People's taste for shock humor over the years seems to come in and out like the tide... it's either all the rage or causing it.
― Evan, Monday, 29 June 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
really thought the joke was p straightforwardly 'that man meets two corporate diversity check marks and will definitely be the hire' but interesting to hear other perspectives
This is what I and my partner got originally as well - it's not that we missed the lampooning of the old boys' club but it also seemed to be making this joke at the same time. I'm not sure it did critique the idea of the 'advantages' someone gains by 'ticking these boxes', esp since it is implied that Garkel might be faking his disability (whereas the irl response of the old boys' network would probably be closer to "ah, but then we'd have to install push buttons at the doors, which goes far beyond reasonable accommodations; sorry, guess my boy Floyd is the only practical choice" than "no way Floyd can compete with that"). And I'm not sure Tina Fey would have made this joke with a middle-aged white woman as the prop, in a wheelchair or otherwise.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 29 June 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link
And I mean, Garkel got the job. I don't recall any suggestion that it was because of his qualifications - if anything, the larger joke was that merit doesn't enter into it one way or the other.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 29 June 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
https://i.chzbgr.com/original/6991674880/hB5A468F0/fake-criterion-the-rural-juror
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 August 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link