Magic: The Gathering C/D

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We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

ok these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (8 years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (8 years ago) Permalink


deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

haha i think i some signed by artists too :-/

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:34 (8 years ago) Permalink

yeah i kept that shivan solely because it was worth money since i played green/white almost exclusively, i shoulda sold it off

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

I saw this stuff mostly when I was in college - 94 - 98. I was too busy playing (then) horrible blues rock, drinking and trying to get laid. Trying being the WAY operative word there.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

I sold a revised "Fork" for about 50 pounds.

Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

reading a thread for the first time and then realising you posted to it four years ago c/d

webber, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

Okay guys how similar is Pokemon the card game to Magic: the Gathering? Bcz I am getting stupidly good @ Pokemon (which did eat up all my spare $$$ this summer...sheesh Abbott).

Abbott, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Y'all heard about The Eye of Judgment?

It's a Magic type game for PS3 that uses real cards and a camera, just came out. The camera scans the cards as you put them into play and then the monsters on the cards battle it out on your TV. The game keeps track of all the stats and shit too, of course. I haven't played it but it's getting decent reviews.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

This is me w/ M:TG btw, but I've also done the "use Portal decks and ignore most of the rules" thing.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

I found a coffee table on the streets of Madison once whose top was a glass plate covering a tiling of just a single magic card. I don't recall what it was, but it must have been the "unwanted" card.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

there was originally some card that involved ripping one of your opponents cards that got "banned" under the sanctioned rules...have no idea what it was called.

I had a mox sapphire! and sold basically everything i had owned at some point in '98 (when i was 19) probably for like 450 on ebay...

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

spent several hours on saturday night playing Magic with ian and was pretty consistently beaten by his blue & black deck.

elmo argonaut, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

apparently people play creatures in type 2 nowadays? I am sort of suspicious of this, it's not pokemon. I wish I hadn't lost all my cards.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

i am so mad i couldn't find my old white/green deck when i was home this weekend.

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

my favorite is the red & white deck.

bell_labs, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

-- Ronan, Monday, October 29, 2007 9:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

fuck yeah

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

red & white is a hard deck to play!

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

there were good all red or all green decks around the time the "mirages" (was that its name) edition of cards came out.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

Lightweights. I suspect Gravel may be hardcore, if he's referring to the fact that Morphling used to be the only playable creature.

Creatures are for Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Magic is a game of technique.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

I can only say all this after spending way too much time sniping cards on eBay in order to play something like 3 times in the last year.

The fortunate thing is that Magic card prices seem to be way more stable than the dollar, so that's money in the bank folks.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

I did Magic waaay early on. By the time I was too cool for it I gave everything to some neighborhood kid, if only I had sold it for $$$ ;_;

Jordan, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

Was not at all impressed by Wizards Of The Coast's headquarters. It's like a mile from Ikea in Renton and looks like any other corporate headquarters. I at least expected animatronic dragons or constant fireworks displays or something other than reflective glass and a fucking fountain.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

twin has been all over the place recently and it's clear that control decks are getting crowded out by it and forced to include a splinter twin package instead.

I thought that maybe if they nerfed amutlet bloom, they'd also consider banning blood moon, which just seems like an obnoxious no fun card. I also thought they'd consider bringing back some cards.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Saturday, 16 January 2016 16:44 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

so pod and twin were the nightmare matchups for affinity despite being a large portion of the field and now they're both gone, i'm curious to see if affinity just goes nuts now

ciderpress, Saturday, 16 January 2016 16:46 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

someone got their hands on a Shadows Over Innistrad booster pack and the cards are up on mythicspoiler

looks way less of a boring retread than BFZ from these few cards, discard mechanics instead of self-mill with Madness as the returning keyword rather than one of the innistrad ones

ciderpress, Saturday, 6 February 2016 20:23 (5 days ago) Permalink

cool to see a new deck in modern

also rip modern

iatee, Saturday, 6 February 2016 22:04 (5 days ago) Permalink

I like that the top modern deck is basically a bunch of BFZ draft cards. How long until they ban Eye of Ugin?

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Saturday, 6 February 2016 22:28 (5 days ago) Permalink

I don't think they emergency ban it but I don't think it gets past the next ban announcement. it feels so inevitable that I think a lot of people aren't even gonna buy into the deck.

the nice thing about banning eye is that it also makes rg tron (which is a long-term disease for the format imo) less inevitable, maybe some grindy control deck could actually beat it.

iatee, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 14:00 (2 days ago) Permalink

anyone doing Oath draft? they're pretty fun though with the caveat that the BFZ mechanics feel a bit clunky. I'm surprised how well the colorless mana mechanic works, especially in a format where 3+ color decks are playable.

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 14:23 (2 days ago) Permalink

I think of colorless as a 6th color that can only be a splash color, not a base

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 14:25 (2 days ago) Permalink

they were pretty clever with how they implemented the colourless sources, in particular having several colorless lands that can also provide other colours to lessen the disruption of the splash. i've hardly ever played wastes themselves, except the couple times i've had walker of the wastes specifically.

i think this format is more fun and will prove to have more depth than bfzx3 but i do notice it feels more like an assortment of cards whereas bfz was very coherent/flavourful. you were more incentivized to have just an ally or just an eldrazi deck before.

also, i don't know how far this was engineered on purpose, maybe giving too much credit, but it is cool that the eldrazi decks were much better in the block where they were in the ascendancy story-wise, and now it has gone the other way and the ally decks are generally better.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 14:38 (2 days ago) Permalink

yeah I've never felt the need for Wastes, there are three common lands that produce every type of mana and they tend to be fairly available. not to mention the Elradzi Spawns, Seer's Lantern, various common dudes that produce colorless...

I've had a lot of success playing G/W, just under the theory that a lot of people are trying to build the B/R/U colorless deck. Green seems a lot better than it did in BFZ, and some of the support cards are really good. Nissa's Judgment is such a powerhouse.

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 14:50 (2 days ago) Permalink

re: modern i am interested to see what people come up with now that the eldrazi aggro decks are a known quantity, it seemed clear that a lot of the PT competitors got blindsided by them. i don't know that there's a solution that also beats other decks but modern's card pool is pretty big so there might be something

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 14:51 (2 days ago) Permalink

I kinda doubt it. there aren't even that many great options in legacy, where it's also becoming a deck and wasteland exists. painter's servant is okay, but the eldrazi deck is so fast that it's kinda pointless if you don't have it in your opening hand, they can play dismember/warping wail, and the card applies zero pressure / is useless in other matchups. I knew I should have bought tons of those because the card felt like it was eventually going get broken into modern. ensnaring bridge / similar effects are also 'okay' but limit the kind of game you can play yourself. lantern and 8-rack probably have okay matchups, but who wants to live in the lantern vs eldrazi world?

the blue moon deck that almost t8'd had 4 blood moon 2 spreading seas, which is a nice start - but I feel like an aggressive start with cavern probably just destroys it / UR control can't deal w/ a resolved reality smasher.

there just isn't enough good land interaction in modern, which is why the format has broken-land-deck after broken-land-deck. I would love a wasteland for 'land that isn't a basic land type'...I almost feel like that's long-term inevitable for the format and it would be very fair. but it would wreck standard along the way, I guess. a cheap 'destroy all non-colored creatures' wrath could also help a lot as it would also hit affinity. the problem is colorless is a new mechanic - that's why there isn't much to find in the dusty archives to deal with this.

until then, blood moon. or play affinity, I guess, which seems to have an okay matchup. or just wait it out until eye gets banned, which seems like more of sure thing than treasure cruise even (cruise never actually tore up tournaments like this in modern.)

iatee, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 15:14 (2 days ago) Permalink

cruise didn't even survive until the modern pro tour last year did it?

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 15:45 (2 days ago) Permalink

the lesson, as always, lands that produce 2 mana are a bad idea

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 15:54 (2 days ago) Permalink

yeah cruise didn't make it very long. I was playing ur delver the whole time and while it was format warping, you weren't invincible, there wasn't some TC build that could have a 95% win rate at the pro tour. in the long-term I'm not sure that DTT wasn't actually the stronger card than TC, since it slotted better into already t1 blue builds, whereas TC just resulted in a new one.

iatee, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 18:38 (2 days ago) Permalink

actually 'a stronger card than'

iatee, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 18:38 (2 days ago) Permalink

getting one more card for one less mana means cruise is probably the stronger card but they do slightly different things for a deck obv. treasure cruise was the saddest modern ban for me especially because it didnt feel like that version of the format was super unhealthy or had bad t1 decks. also i just really liked playing u/r delver in modern

i think the two non-eldrazi decks that im most interested in playing in detroit are blue moon and goryo's vengeance. pre-pt i had been having some minor success with faeries playing on mtgo but that plan is certainly dead

$ (Lamp), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 19:14 (2 days ago) Permalink

in legacy I think cruise was way better, but in modern twin and scapeshift could use DTT to just tutor up a win on command. but they also didn't *need* it the same way that the UR delver builds needed TC.

I think if I were going to a major tournament I would probably copy that blue moon build that did well at the pro tour. I love pia and kiran nalaar. or merfolk with 4 spreading seas 4 sea's claim.

iatee, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 19:59 (2 days ago) Permalink

i like blue moon but i'm gonna wait for someone to tune it for the post-pt field before i try it

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 20:24 (2 days ago) Permalink

Some of my friends started playing this game a cpl months ago and now all their conversations sound like this thread and its sad and I don't want to be friends anymore

• (sleepingbag), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:09 (2 days ago) Permalink

it is all-consuming

ciderpress, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:30 (2 days ago) Permalink

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