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We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

ok these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (7 years ago) Permalink


deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha i think i some signed by artists too :-/

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah i kept that shivan solely because it was worth money since i played green/white almost exclusively, i shoulda sold it off

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

I saw this stuff mostly when I was in college - 94 - 98. I was too busy playing (then) horrible blues rock, drinking and trying to get laid. Trying being the WAY operative word there.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

I sold a revised "Fork" for about 50 pounds.

Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

reading a thread for the first time and then realising you posted to it four years ago c/d

webber, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

Okay guys how similar is Pokemon the card game to Magic: the Gathering? Bcz I am getting stupidly good @ Pokemon (which did eat up all my spare $$$ this summer...sheesh Abbott).

Abbott, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

Y'all heard about The Eye of Judgment?

It's a Magic type game for PS3 that uses real cards and a camera, just came out. The camera scans the cards as you put them into play and then the monsters on the cards battle it out on your TV. The game keeps track of all the stats and shit too, of course. I haven't played it but it's getting decent reviews.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

This is me w/ M:TG btw, but I've also done the "use Portal decks and ignore most of the rules" thing.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

I found a coffee table on the streets of Madison once whose top was a glass plate covering a tiling of just a single magic card. I don't recall what it was, but it must have been the "unwanted" card.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

there was originally some card that involved ripping one of your opponents cards that got "banned" under the sanctioned rules...have no idea what it was called.

I had a mox sapphire! and sold basically everything i had owned at some point in '98 (when i was 19) probably for like 450 on ebay...

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

spent several hours on saturday night playing Magic with ian and was pretty consistently beaten by his blue & black deck.

elmo argonaut, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

apparently people play creatures in type 2 nowadays? I am sort of suspicious of this, it's not pokemon. I wish I hadn't lost all my cards.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

i am so mad i couldn't find my old white/green deck when i was home this weekend.

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

my favorite is the red & white deck.

bell_labs, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

-- Ronan, Monday, October 29, 2007 9:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

fuck yeah

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

red & white is a hard deck to play!

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

there were good all red or all green decks around the time the "mirages" (was that its name) edition of cards came out.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

Lightweights. I suspect Gravel may be hardcore, if he's referring to the fact that Morphling used to be the only playable creature.

Creatures are for Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Magic is a game of technique.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

I can only say all this after spending way too much time sniping cards on eBay in order to play something like 3 times in the last year.

The fortunate thing is that Magic card prices seem to be way more stable than the dollar, so that's money in the bank folks.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

I did Magic waaay early on. By the time I was too cool for it I gave everything to some neighborhood kid, if only I had sold it for $$$ ;_;

Jordan, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

Was not at all impressed by Wizards Of The Coast's headquarters. It's like a mile from Ikea in Renton and looks like any other corporate headquarters. I at least expected animatronic dragons or constant fireworks displays or something other than reflective glass and a fucking fountain.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 16 February 2015 01:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I've been playing variations of this list post-tc and honestly it feels almost as strong as cruise-delver. got 2nd in a local gpt today (had opp on 1 life both games in the finals :(

really think the deck is secretly t1. you don't have the insane acceleration you got from cruise, but you also get a decent share of t2 tasigurs and actually have an answer for a resolved tarmogoyf. also can play discard spells and other fun stuff in the sb.

iatee, Monday, 2 March 2015 03:22 (4 days ago) Permalink

that looks pretty sweet, i might try it. haven't really played a delver deck since standard delver but i enjoy them in theory

ciderpress, Monday, 2 March 2015 15:09 (4 days ago) Permalink

i guess dragons previews start next week? that is pretty crazy. maybe counter-intuitive but i actually have really enjoyed FKK draft despite not being very good at it. maybe because of, it has been interesting to me to try to figure out what was going on. the weird thing is i have usually felt like i drafted good decks but the results too often haven't backed that up. although i am in a bit of a resurgence right now, which is also one reason i will be a little sad to see it move on, but i had a real gross run in the middle there. and this was after khans went super well for me, i was basically playing for free thru that format.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 March 2015 15:54 (4 days ago) Permalink

agreed - Fate Reforged seems to add a lot of real interesting stuff to an already fun draft format, it does way more than Born of the Gods did for Theros

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Monday, 2 March 2015 16:34 (4 days ago) Permalink

previews started today btw, theyre already up

rebound returns as the UW keyword. good call imo, one of the best ones from recent years
UB keyword is exploit (when this creature enters the battlefield you may sacrifice a creature) + some bonus effect if you do
GR is formidable which is just like ferocious except 8 total power instead of 4 power on one creature. kinda lame

morph variant is just morphs that get a +1/+1 counter when unmorphed, also less exciting than i was hoping for

ciderpress, Monday, 2 March 2015 17:22 (4 days ago) Permalink

+1/+1 counters for everyone

no (Lamp), Monday, 2 March 2015 17:24 (4 days ago) Permalink


yeah as weird as it sounds, the deck kinda plays like jund! you one for one their best things and get incremental value from your power cards (snap, live tasigur, pyro). unlike previous modern delver builds it isn't totally dependent on an aggro start, in fact it keeps up really well in any attrition game cause you're drawing cuts instead of vapor snags and tasigur instead of swiftspear. the bad matchups are basically jund's bad matchups for the same reason (murderous cut is bad against lingering souls) / you do a lot of damage to yourself so you can get burned out.

iatee, Monday, 2 March 2015 17:47 (4 days ago) Permalink

nu-sidisi seems quite broken

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 March 2015 17:57 (4 days ago) Permalink

kinda surprising she's not mythic

iatee, Monday, 2 March 2015 17:58 (4 days ago) Permalink


Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 March 2015 17:59 (4 days ago) Permalink

idk i feel like its probably a worse card than the one from dark ascension? i guess it beats all the other b/g big stuff creatures.

wonder if we can get to a place were the legends artifact from journey (or born?) is playable...

no (Lamp), Monday, 2 March 2015 18:42 (4 days ago) Permalink

seems like a really nice control piece mostly for the first two abilities. then i guess any kind of mirror becomes a race to the ultimate.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:04 (2 days ago) Permalink

This is going to be pretty nuts. Rebounding Treasure Cruise or Dig is basically game over.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:23 (2 days ago) Permalink

so I'm going to the SCG Standard Open in Dallas the weekend after next. This is my first large, competitive event. What should my expectations be? Any particular tips?

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:32 (2 days ago) Permalink

scg opens are pretty chill in my experience, just have fun & always call a judge if you're unsure about something since the rules get a bit stricter at competitive REL

i like carrying a small notebook and taking quick notes about my opponents decks, how i won/lost each game, etc so that i have a sort of record of the tournament afterwards & it helps me remember better what i did well and poorly so that i can learn for next time

also always pack in healthy food & water for big events, if you do well you'll be there for 8+ hours and there's generally no breaks unless you finish a round fast

ciderpress, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:46 (2 days ago) Permalink

i think at competitive rel you're required to use pen + paper to keep track of your (and your ops) life totals. dont check your phone during matches.

cider v otm about the snacks - at the gps ive been too eating is kind of rushed and options are usually limited and unhealthy. having an apple and some trail mix is really vital.

its kind of corny but i always try to bring some music that i can zone out to btw matches. its nice to talk to friends and check in on them but its also fraught and kind of exhausting? theres a high possibility that i take magic too seriously tho

no (Lamp), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:56 (2 days ago) Permalink

also i've never had a good experience with trading at big events so between that and the risk of theft being higher i don't bring any cards except for the deck i'm playing in the event

ciderpress, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 17:05 (2 days ago) Permalink

sweet, thanks!

Here's a more technical question - From what I understand, if I'm in my first main phase and I declare "move to combat step", I'm basically signaling to my opponent that I'm ready to pass priority at the end of the Beginning of Combat step before declaring attackers. My deck runs Flamewake Phoenix, whose ability triggers during the beginning of combat. What is the correct competitive language I should use if I want to move into the the beginning of combat step and maintain priority so that I can bring back my phoenix?

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 17:33 (2 days ago) Permalink

i just say 'beginning of combat?' before i move to declare attackers. this is partly because i mostly play limited and thats the step where people most want to play spells like icy blast or w/e. if you're playing standard i can see saying something like 'go to combat?' as way of acknowledging that you are passing priority.

as for being able to play phoenix as the active player you have priority first. just acknowledge somehow that you're in beginning of combat phase, declare the phoenix trigger and you're good. same w/rabblemaster or w/e. just dont declare attacks and you cant miss anything.

no (Lamp), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 17:57 (2 days ago) Permalink

I would say "move to beginning of combat?" to make it extra clear we're not in the beginning of combat step already. Kind of a strange phrase to use but the timing on Flamewake Phoenix is unusual, so it makes sense. "Move to combat?" could lead to problems like you think, Moodles.

Vinnie, Thursday, 5 March 2015 12:34 (Yesterday) Permalink

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