Magic: The Gathering C/D

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We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

ok these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (7 years ago) Permalink


deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

haha i think i some signed by artists too :-/

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

yeah i kept that shivan solely because it was worth money since i played green/white almost exclusively, i shoulda sold it off

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

I saw this stuff mostly when I was in college - 94 - 98. I was too busy playing (then) horrible blues rock, drinking and trying to get laid. Trying being the WAY operative word there.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

I sold a revised "Fork" for about 50 pounds.

Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

reading a thread for the first time and then realising you posted to it four years ago c/d

webber, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

Okay guys how similar is Pokemon the card game to Magic: the Gathering? Bcz I am getting stupidly good @ Pokemon (which did eat up all my spare $$$ this summer...sheesh Abbott).

Abbott, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

Y'all heard about The Eye of Judgment?

It's a Magic type game for PS3 that uses real cards and a camera, just came out. The camera scans the cards as you put them into play and then the monsters on the cards battle it out on your TV. The game keeps track of all the stats and shit too, of course. I haven't played it but it's getting decent reviews.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

This is me w/ M:TG btw, but I've also done the "use Portal decks and ignore most of the rules" thing.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

I found a coffee table on the streets of Madison once whose top was a glass plate covering a tiling of just a single magic card. I don't recall what it was, but it must have been the "unwanted" card.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

there was originally some card that involved ripping one of your opponents cards that got "banned" under the sanctioned rules...have no idea what it was called.

I had a mox sapphire! and sold basically everything i had owned at some point in '98 (when i was 19) probably for like 450 on ebay...

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

spent several hours on saturday night playing Magic with ian and was pretty consistently beaten by his blue & black deck.

elmo argonaut, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

apparently people play creatures in type 2 nowadays? I am sort of suspicious of this, it's not pokemon. I wish I hadn't lost all my cards.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

i am so mad i couldn't find my old white/green deck when i was home this weekend.

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

my favorite is the red & white deck.

bell_labs, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

-- Ronan, Monday, October 29, 2007 9:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

fuck yeah

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

red & white is a hard deck to play!

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

there were good all red or all green decks around the time the "mirages" (was that its name) edition of cards came out.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

Lightweights. I suspect Gravel may be hardcore, if he's referring to the fact that Morphling used to be the only playable creature.

Creatures are for Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Magic is a game of technique.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

I can only say all this after spending way too much time sniping cards on eBay in order to play something like 3 times in the last year.

The fortunate thing is that Magic card prices seem to be way more stable than the dollar, so that's money in the bank folks.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

I did Magic waaay early on. By the time I was too cool for it I gave everything to some neighborhood kid, if only I had sold it for $$$ ;_;

Jordan, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

Was not at all impressed by Wizards Of The Coast's headquarters. It's like a mile from Ikea in Renton and looks like any other corporate headquarters. I at least expected animatronic dragons or constant fireworks displays or something other than reflective glass and a fucking fountain.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

if you had 1 or 2 more husks that deck would be A+, as is it's still good

easy cuts:
Dark Petition - this card is just too slow for the format, there are fringe spots it might work but this is far from being one of them
Avaricious Dragon - i don't think this card is playable except in a hyper-aggro deck, there's too many ways for it to lose you the game
Mage Ring Bully - not a good card

last cut is probably Firefiend Elemental but i'd have to see the curve laid out to be sure

ciderpress, Saturday, 8 August 2015 18:51 (1 month ago) Permalink

having never played with or against avaricious dragon i decided that was going in regardless and i tried to make the deck faster to accommodate, cutting skyraker, petition, unholy hunger and ignition. i never really got a chance to play so i can't say how that would've worked out. if i was playing it 100% straight i wouldn't have put dragon in, the way the curve ended up. i wasn't sure about ignition, most of the creatures are so small. it seems wrong to not play it if you can but i bailed on the decision in the end. i guess sac your board to husk and then ignition is going to be a sick blowout one way or the other.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 8 August 2015 23:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

BFZ mechanics are

Eldrazi side:
Devoid (this card has no color)
Ingest (whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, exile the top card of that player's library)
plus stuff that interacts with colorlessness and exiled opponents cards

Zendikar side:
Awaken X - an alternate cost on spells that adds turning one of your lands into an X/X creature to the spell
Landfall - same as it ever was
plus Allies but probably with a different main mechanic this time rather than ETB triggered ability hell

ciderpress, Monday, 17 August 2015 14:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

actual cards are in this article

ciderpress, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

hmm ingest sounds kind of cool, depending on what the associated shenanigans are. i am sure maro had a tantrum about building a mechanic around using cards from exile. also, ingest and awaken feel quite 'new' in a way recent mechanics haven't.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

maro is the lead designer of the set so i think he's probably ok with this implementation of it - eldrazi are supposed to break the 'rules' of the game anyway

ciderpress, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

other news: Constructed leagues are apparently going to release on modo alongside BFZ. should be nice, as long as the entry/prizes are consistent with the current queues

ciderpress, Monday, 17 August 2015 15:38 (1 month ago) Permalink

Do people generally like landfall? It's always seemed pretty miserable to me - a mechanic that makes missing your land drops feel even worse than it already does.

Really like the other mechanics though.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:17 (1 month ago) Permalink

Yeah but it makes drawing lands late in the game that you don't need a lot better, so it's a horse apiece. You usually play 18 land in Limited so that isn't as much of a problem - my issue with it was that there was a lot of creatures that got a boost with landfall which created a very aggro-oriented game, since the attackers were almost always better than the defenders.

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 15:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeah i assume they've learned from their mistakes and aren't going to make more Plated Geopedes. the landfall creatures that were on curve stats-wise and just got a keyword ability or non-combat bonus from the landfall (e.g. Surrakar Marauder, Grazing Gladeheart, Geyser Glider) actually played pretty well since if you were stuck on lands they could still block on curve - the mistakes were the cards like the Plated Geopede cycle which were well below curve without landfall and well above curve with it

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 16:37 (1 month ago) Permalink

landfall also probably gets way less focus this time since there are actual other new keyword mechanics. old zendikar stretched landfall reaalllly far since it was the only new one.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 16:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

Landfall is a great if unexciting mechanic. Allows you to play more lands without diluting the quality of your deck too much. I mean, if the triple Zendikar draft format wasn't so damn fast, we might have seen that more.

Vinnie, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

went to eternal weekend in philly and did pretty well going 8-2-1 at legacy. playing 11 rounds in a day is as much a physical feat as a mental one. my hands were literally cramping when I shuffled at the end of the day.

anyway eternal weekend is great. my friend threw together an unpowered d+t deck in vintage just cause he wanted the sweet tolarian academy playmat and he went 6-4, having never played the format.

iatee, Monday, 24 August 2015 22:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

i really like this scapeshift build, i hope it's not terrible

playing with coiling oracle and compulsive research in 2015 is some sort of weird dream

ciderpress, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 15:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

BFZ full set is up

set looks fine for limited, looks a lot faster than the ROE-esque format people thought we were getting but that is okay with me.

really nothing new that i am excited to play in constructed though. i'm just gonna sit back and draft for a while and let other people come up with the standard decks.

ciderpress, Friday, 18 September 2015 18:22 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

manabases are going to be crazy, time to polish off those 5-color decks

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 18 September 2015 19:49 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

the knight otr / retreat to coral helm combo seems legit to me. t3 win in modern. would be cool if bant was a deck now.

overall the set is fine, not super exciting but limited should be fun for a while at least

iatee, Friday, 18 September 2015 23:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

considering knight is still bugged on mtgo a friend was theorizing you cld build a pretty broken modern combo deck w/it for the ptq today, although part of me worries theyd refuse to honor the win if you gamed a programming error

dead (Lamp), Saturday, 19 September 2015 14:08 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

what's the bug?

iatee, Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:02 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

you can sacrifice any permanent (incl. itself) to knight's ability. looks like as of latest bug update its still a problem

dead (Lamp), Saturday, 19 September 2015 16:15 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

haha that's insane

iatee, Saturday, 19 September 2015 17:33 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

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