Magic: The Gathering C/D

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We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

ok http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/ProjectEBAY/MagicCards.html these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

8/8

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha i think i some signed by artists too :-/

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah i kept that shivan solely because it was worth money since i played green/white almost exclusively, i shoulda sold it off

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

I saw this stuff mostly when I was in college - 94 - 98. I was too busy playing (then) horrible blues rock, drinking and trying to get laid. Trying being the WAY operative word there.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

I sold a revised "Fork" for about 50 pounds.

Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

reading a thread for the first time and then realising you posted to it four years ago c/d

webber, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

Okay guys how similar is Pokemon the card game to Magic: the Gathering? Bcz I am getting stupidly good @ Pokemon (which did eat up all my spare $$$ this summer...sheesh Abbott).

Abbott, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

Y'all heard about The Eye of Judgment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhlq_GhYGsM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eye_of_Judgment

It's a Magic type game for PS3 that uses real cards and a camera, just came out. The camera scans the cards as you put them into play and then the monsters on the cards battle it out on your TV. The game keeps track of all the stats and shit too, of course. I haven't played it but it's getting decent reviews.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

This is me w/ M:TG btw, but I've also done the "use Portal decks and ignore most of the rules" thing.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

I found a coffee table on the streets of Madison once whose top was a glass plate covering a tiling of just a single magic card. I don't recall what it was, but it must have been the "unwanted" card.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

there was originally some card that involved ripping one of your opponents cards that got "banned" under the sanctioned rules...have no idea what it was called.

I had a mox sapphire! and sold basically everything i had owned at some point in '98 (when i was 19) probably for like 450 on ebay...

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

spent several hours on saturday night playing Magic with ian and was pretty consistently beaten by his blue & black deck.

elmo argonaut, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

apparently people play creatures in type 2 nowadays? I am sort of suspicious of this, it's not pokemon. I wish I hadn't lost all my cards.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

i am so mad i couldn't find my old white/green deck when i was home this weekend.

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

my favorite is the red & white deck.

bell_labs, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

-- Ronan, Monday, October 29, 2007 9:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

fuck yeah

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

red & white is a hard deck to play!

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

there were good all red or all green decks around the time the "mirages" (was that its name) edition of cards came out.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Lightweights. I suspect Gravel may be hardcore, if he's referring to the fact that Morphling used to be the only playable creature.

Creatures are for Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Magic is a game of technique.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

I can only say all this after spending way too much time sniping cards on eBay in order to play something like 3 times in the last year.

The fortunate thing is that Magic card prices seem to be way more stable than the dollar, so that's money in the bank folks.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

I did Magic waaay early on. By the time I was too cool for it I gave everything to some neighborhood kid, if only I had sold it for $$$ ;_;

Jordan, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Was not at all impressed by Wizards Of The Coast's headquarters. It's like a mile from Ikea in Renton and looks like any other corporate headquarters. I at least expected animatronic dragons or constant fireworks displays or something other than reflective glass and a fucking fountain.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

plus bleeding infect to other colors was probably not a great choice

frogbs, Friday, 24 February 2017 21:05 (three days ago) Permalink

i liked the slight bleeds in the 2nd set - the white infect creatures made some variety possible (though GB was still the best)

ciderpress, Friday, 24 February 2017 21:15 (three days ago) Permalink

i'd kinda like to play that format again now that i'm thinking about it, but im pretty sure i'm the only one who a) likes that block for draft and b) likes specifically MSS best of the 3 iterations so i probably missed my only chance with the flashbacks last year

ciderpress, Friday, 24 February 2017 21:21 (three days ago) Permalink

Living Weapon was a really cool mechanic. too bad Batterskull pretty much overshadowed everything though

what were the great full, 3-set block draft formats? off hand it's hard to think of any that were clearly better than simply doing 3x the large set, though I tend to like the wackier formats like full Time Spiral block and RTR/GTC/Dragon's Maze.

frogbs, Friday, 24 February 2017 21:37 (three days ago) Permalink

most 3rd sets have sucked unfortunately so there's no obvious answer to this. invasion block is probably the best but it's a little antiquated when you hold it up against good modern limited sets.

time spiral block was very close but sprout swarm ruined it

journey into nyx is a good 3rd set but it's in a pretty mediocre block. still probably a runner-up.

i've never bought into the hype for either ravnica block, they both had big structural issues in draft. return to ravnica full block was my favorite sealed format ever though.

ciderpress, Friday, 24 February 2017 21:48 (three days ago) Permalink

my favorite draft formats:

invasion block: IPA
kamigawa block: CCC and CCB
time spiral block: TTT and 'fixed' TPF (replace all Sprout Swarms after the draft with Scatter the Seeds from ravnica)
zendikar block: ROE x3
innistrad block: III and DII
M13 x3
ORI x3
shadows block: EES

haven't really cared for any of the masters sets so far but i think a great one is possible. ROE only pulled off the 'bunch of non-intersecting tracks' thing by having most of its archetypes be unusual and new to limited. in a fully retrospective set it works against the experience imo.

ciderpress, Friday, 24 February 2017 22:20 (three days ago) Permalink

please not Infect again. Scars block was fun but that block really was defined by infect and I don't think we need another block like that. I wouldn't mind poison counters coming back in another form, but hard to imagine what that would be if not infect

Vinnie, Saturday, 25 February 2017 02:08 (two days ago) Permalink

I'm dipping my toe into modern with burn. It seems that naya isn't really the way to go right now, so will probably be focusing on pretty much straight up R/W with a small splash for Destructive Revelry. I tried my first event last night with more or less this build. Although I didn't do amazing, it felt like every match was very close and often came down to whether I top decked the right thing on the final turn. I think a few tweaks to the deck will help swing this more in my favor. I definitely learned a lot about some of the decks and tricky interactions in the format. My opponents were very nice and helpful, which I appreciated.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 25 February 2017 15:25 (two days ago) Permalink

oh man i love modern burn

i havent played it in quite a while though so i don't know what the good build is now - last time i played it it had deathrite shaman in it

ciderpress, Saturday, 25 February 2017 15:38 (two days ago) Permalink

This type of RW build seems to be doing best right now:

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/573714#paper

The more creature-heavy builds aren't great because of cards like Fatal Push and Collective Brutality. It's also nice to have maindeck Lightning Helix to help mitigate all the damage you do to yourself. Against all the other aggressive decks out there, Helix can buy you that one extra turn to close things out.

One intriguing variation I've been seeing this past week is RB burn with Gonti's Machinations and Bump In The Night:

http://www.channelfireball.com/videos/channel-pmayne-modern-gonti-burn/

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 25 February 2017 15:58 (two days ago) Permalink

yeah bump in the night was in deathrite burn

ciderpress, Saturday, 25 February 2017 16:07 (two days ago) Permalink

invasion block is probably the best but it's a little antiquated when you hold it up against good modern limited sets.

It was fun but it had its own 3rd set problem - it pushed hard for allied pairs and 3-color combos in Invasion and Planeshift, then by the time you got to Apocalypse where all the real good stuff was, you suddenly were shifted into enemy pairs, of which you'd only have one. Cards like Lightning Angel were basically unplayable for that reason. As I recall full block Rav had a similar problem.

frogbs, Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:09 (two days ago) Permalink

full block rav the problems were more that the common duals were way too strong to the point where it was correct to take off-color ones over most spells, so everyone ended up with sketchy manabases since the lands didn't fall to the right people. also there were weird color balance issues where e.g. the GW deck in pack 1 was really strong but also a trap, you needed to get like 2/3rds of your deck from pack 1 or you got screwed because it didn't lead into 3 color decks like the others.

ciderpress, Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:23 (two days ago) Permalink

RTR fixed those problems by going 5-5-10 instead of 4-3-3 but then they fucked that up by putting most of the linear mechanics in the same set

ciderpress, Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:29 (two days ago) Permalink

really hope the saheeli combo gets banned in standard asap

ciderpress, Sunday, 26 February 2017 04:43 (yesterday) Permalink

play mardu vehicles and watch them fold

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Sunday, 26 February 2017 04:56 (yesterday) Permalink

the 4 color build does fine vs mardu (and everything else)

ciderpress, Sunday, 26 February 2017 05:12 (yesterday) Permalink

i'm getting completely wrecked in this limited format after crushing 3x KLD

ciderpress, Sunday, 26 February 2017 19:12 (yesterday) Permalink

funnily enough i am the exact reverse. i think in KLD i was distracted by drafting decks that were appealing to me to play but only sometimes effective, whereas there are almost no viable options in this format that do not involve smashing face. also, your uncommon run breakout has been a delight.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 26 February 2017 19:47 (yesterday) Permalink

it's mostly just let me know that green is never open, which i already knew. i think it'd be more valuable in a non-artifact format

ciderpress, Sunday, 26 February 2017 20:11 (yesterday) Permalink

knowing that revolutionary and tusker are in the same pack has saved from a bunch of frustrating pack ones

( ^_^) (Lamp), Sunday, 26 February 2017 20:16 (yesterday) Permalink


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