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We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

ok these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (nine years ago) Permalink


deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha i think i some signed by artists too :-/

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah i kept that shivan solely because it was worth money since i played green/white almost exclusively, i shoulda sold it off

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

I saw this stuff mostly when I was in college - 94 - 98. I was too busy playing (then) horrible blues rock, drinking and trying to get laid. Trying being the WAY operative word there.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

I sold a revised "Fork" for about 50 pounds.

Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

reading a thread for the first time and then realising you posted to it four years ago c/d

webber, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

Okay guys how similar is Pokemon the card game to Magic: the Gathering? Bcz I am getting stupidly good @ Pokemon (which did eat up all my spare $$$ this summer...sheesh Abbott).

Abbott, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

Y'all heard about The Eye of Judgment?

It's a Magic type game for PS3 that uses real cards and a camera, just came out. The camera scans the cards as you put them into play and then the monsters on the cards battle it out on your TV. The game keeps track of all the stats and shit too, of course. I haven't played it but it's getting decent reviews.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

This is me w/ M:TG btw, but I've also done the "use Portal decks and ignore most of the rules" thing.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

I found a coffee table on the streets of Madison once whose top was a glass plate covering a tiling of just a single magic card. I don't recall what it was, but it must have been the "unwanted" card.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

there was originally some card that involved ripping one of your opponents cards that got "banned" under the sanctioned rules...have no idea what it was called.

I had a mox sapphire! and sold basically everything i had owned at some point in '98 (when i was 19) probably for like 450 on ebay...

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

spent several hours on saturday night playing Magic with ian and was pretty consistently beaten by his blue & black deck.

elmo argonaut, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

apparently people play creatures in type 2 nowadays? I am sort of suspicious of this, it's not pokemon. I wish I hadn't lost all my cards.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

i am so mad i couldn't find my old white/green deck when i was home this weekend.

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:49 (nine years ago) Permalink

my favorite is the red & white deck.

bell_labs, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

-- Ronan, Monday, October 29, 2007 9:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

fuck yeah

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

red & white is a hard deck to play!

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

there were good all red or all green decks around the time the "mirages" (was that its name) edition of cards came out.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

Lightweights. I suspect Gravel may be hardcore, if he's referring to the fact that Morphling used to be the only playable creature.

Creatures are for Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Magic is a game of technique.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

I can only say all this after spending way too much time sniping cards on eBay in order to play something like 3 times in the last year.

The fortunate thing is that Magic card prices seem to be way more stable than the dollar, so that's money in the bank folks.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

I did Magic waaay early on. By the time I was too cool for it I gave everything to some neighborhood kid, if only I had sold it for $$$ ;_;

Jordan, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

Was not at all impressed by Wizards Of The Coast's headquarters. It's like a mile from Ikea in Renton and looks like any other corporate headquarters. I at least expected animatronic dragons or constant fireworks displays or something other than reflective glass and a fucking fountain.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

Greenwheel Liberator seems like it could see Modern play too. it's better than Goyf in the early turns

I thought I'd spec on Saheeli but I'm too late. it's already up to around 8 tix

Vinnie, Saturday, 7 January 2017 09:36 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah way too late, it's spiked pretty hard. i'm trying to identify other new interactions that could be good in standard but there's nothing anywhere near as in-your-face as that one

ciderpress, Saturday, 7 January 2017 17:30 (one week ago) Permalink


Announcement Date: January 9, 2017

Effective Date: January 20, 2017

Magic Online Effective Date: January 11, 2017


Emrakul, the Promised End is banned.

Smuggler's Copter is banned.

Reflector Mage is banned.


Gitaxian Probe is banned.

Golgari Grave-Troll is banned.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 9 January 2017 19:30 (one week ago) Permalink

Definitely have mixed feelings about these. Emrakul was a pain to play against, and I'm glad I sold every copy I opened. Still think Marvel would have made more sense to ban instead. I'm bummed about Copter as I've played a bunch of different decks since Kaladesh and all of them had Copter. Of course, that's probably exactly why it got banned. Don't really know why they banned Mage, except there may be some new combo that they are preemptively stopping. Not really sure that banning Gitaxian Probe will make a huge difference. I get Golgari Grave-Troll, Dredge is pretty ridiculous right now.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 9 January 2017 19:35 (one week ago) Permalink

ok so I have like 6 Copters on MTGO and don't play constructed...should I sell ASAP while they're still legal for a bit or are they worth somehow holding on to? sucks that the one money rare (non-mythic) got nerfed.

frogbs, Monday, 9 January 2017 19:49 (one week ago) Permalink

They're already pretty much worthless since it goes into effect in 2 days on mtgo, take your ticket each or whatever if you can get it

ciderpress, Monday, 9 January 2017 21:25 (one week ago) Permalink

Probably a lot of ink spilled over this already, all I'll say is that historically standard bannings only happen when there's a significant downturn in tournament attendance at the local level. It's not just about power level of cards, it's about optics and getting people reinterested in a format they didn't want to play

ciderpress, Monday, 9 January 2017 21:36 (one week ago) Permalink

it seems like they've really been clutching at straws regarding Standard FNM attendance. First the change to rotation, then Saturday Showdown, and now this. Hopefully it's working. Standard attendance in Austin has improved over the Origins - Oath period, but it still could be better. I'm seeing Modern pull in more people than Standard at some shops, and now a bunch of Frontier events are popping up.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 9 January 2017 21:46 (one week ago) Permalink

i still think a good standard season and/or good modern season might just kill all momentum that frontier has, it feels like such a reactionary format

ciderpress, Monday, 9 January 2017 21:48 (one week ago) Permalink

also i suspect if it ever became official they'd start it at origins rather than m15 since having yet another format's accessibility bottlenecked by fetchlands is not ideal

ciderpress, Monday, 9 January 2017 21:52 (one week ago) Permalink

it's true that it may not last or that wizards may support something similar but slightly different. For now though, I'm sleeving up a frontier deck to run on Wednesday night and it has Smuggler's Copter and Reflector Mage!

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 9 January 2017 22:10 (one week ago) Permalink

I like the Probe ban, it's similar to the Mental Misstep ban. It's a card that gets chucked into too many decks, and a small reason why Modern can feel repetitive. It's not busted but I think overall Modern will be more fun without it

Vinnie, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 01:02 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm pretty shocked at the Standard bans though. Like y'all said, attendance must have been way down - this is practically a brand new Standard format now

Vinnie, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 01:04 (one week ago) Permalink

Wonder if this means the 3/5 crew 1 dude with occasional lifelink is gonna get played. Seems nearly as good!

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 14:28 (one week ago) Permalink

it's pretty different, more of a midrange card, but should get played

ciderpress, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 14:31 (one week ago) Permalink

renegade rallier is interesting in modern zoo with the cheap landfall guys

ciderpress, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 14:58 (one week ago) Permalink

t1 steppe lynx / t2 fetch, geopede / t3 fetch, rallier is lethal. you even have an extra mana on t3 to path or bolt a blocker

ciderpress, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 15:01 (one week ago) Permalink

starting to think printing fetches was not exactly a great decision

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 15:04 (one week ago) Permalink

got a favorable impression of this set from the prerelease, though my pool was absolute garbage and i only won matches because i was playing vs new players. feels almost oldschool to have actual good removal at common at this point.

ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:21 (two days ago) Permalink

black and/or red felt like the strongest colors to me, blue is bad but in a more fun way than usual

ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:26 (two days ago) Permalink

some idle comments on colors

white - dawnfeather eagle is an unusually good finisher for a common, feels like it got a lot of white's power budget which is awkward since you can't play many
blue - blue only has 1 decent on-curve creature at common (the drake) and a ton of nonsense. you're relying a lot on cheap artifact dudes and will probably have to play off-color automatons in blue decks. good blue decks are going to look like total piles just like the bad ones and it'll take some nuance to figure out which is which.
black - we've had a bunch of crummy -x/-x commons lately but i think cruel finality does enough here to elevate it to a higher pick than things like die young or throttle were
red - red commons are just all really good for the format. shock is better here than 4 mana 4 damage which is better than aether chaser and sweatworks brawler, but all 4 of those look better than any blue common and also probably any white common that isn't the pacifism
green - none of the beaters are efficient enough to be higher picks than the mana guy, and they're interchangeable enough that prey upon probably comes in 2nd as well. peema outrider and thriving rhino outsize AER creatures really hard so green drafters get rewarded nicely in pack 3
artifacts - renegade map is the card that makes revolt a strong mechanic rather than a marginal one, while also working well with improvise. this kind of makes it the equivalent of both prophetic prism and renegade freighter at the same time in this set and i wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a consensus high pick common

ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 20:56 (two days ago) Permalink

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