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We should start an ILG thread where we play against each other using SCANNERS.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

i only played magic for the first time a few weeks ago, how weird is that? i was intimidated by the kids who played it in high school, but it's not half as complicated as i thought.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

you should have been more intimidated by their allowances

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

and/or dedication to blowing every dollar earned at the drive-thru window sunday 5am-1:30pm on crazy junk instead of like cigarettes and cds

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

that is correct i am calling you bustas out

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

what are you talking about, i pinched a franklin from my dad's wallet to buy a mox jet

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha, i think i was most intimidated by their cliquish aspie superiority complexes.

i think it's really fun now though.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

ok these prices are so retarded omg

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

people should all be blown up

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

in my middle school the biggest fight i got into was between pog players and m:tg players

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

i was obviously a magic player

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

green & white deck, in case anyone is wondering

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

omg pog

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

if i remember those years correctly i was more worried about the shame my seminoles starter jacket would bring me after danny wuerrfle's gators pounced on them in the orange bowl than anything having to do with those fucking things

deeznuts, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

I used to play magic back in the mid-nineties, I still have a hundreds and hundreds of those cards in some box around here. I never paid much for them though, because I stole most of them from bookstores. I wonder if that stuff is worth something these days, the oldest cards I have are from Revised Edition or whatever it was called.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

god, my nerd days were spent playing Avalon Hill wargames. and banging chicks of course

brownie, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

my best nerd days are ahead of me still.

bell_labs, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

mine did not look quite as good as this one but I got pretty good

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

i had a revised shivan dragon worth $50

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

and my color selections were more noise

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha shivan dragon. back in 1995 my friend's proudest accomplishment was owning 4 shivan dragons. I wonder if those cards are worth anything today.

burt_stanton, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

blue + black deck, my sengir vampires and royal assassins were so so gangster.

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

i had two revised royal assassins

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

maybe more, hell if i remember

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

at my 10th bday party i beat the rich kid in magic even tho i had no allowance, i had birthday money and was a HUSTLER with trades

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

i think sometimes i threw in some green too, but only if u could throw all mana down first turn and i would use it solely for my force of nature

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (nine years ago) Permalink


deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

i have a shivan dragon signed by the lady what painted it ;_;

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

haha i think i some signed by artists too :-/

deej, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah i kept that shivan solely because it was worth money since i played green/white almost exclusively, i shoulda sold it off

max, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

I saw this stuff mostly when I was in college - 94 - 98. I was too busy playing (then) horrible blues rock, drinking and trying to get laid. Trying being the WAY operative word there.

B.L.A.M., Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

I sold a revised "Fork" for about 50 pounds.

Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 22:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

reading a thread for the first time and then realising you posted to it four years ago c/d

webber, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 23:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

Okay guys how similar is Pokemon the card game to Magic: the Gathering? Bcz I am getting stupidly good @ Pokemon (which did eat up all my spare $$$ this summer...sheesh Abbott).

Abbott, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

Y'all heard about The Eye of Judgment?

It's a Magic type game for PS3 that uses real cards and a camera, just came out. The camera scans the cards as you put them into play and then the monsters on the cards battle it out on your TV. The game keeps track of all the stats and shit too, of course. I haven't played it but it's getting decent reviews.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

I probably spent twenty bucks on it total, maybe thirty. It was one summer, a fun thing, a moment in time, a nice little cultural artifact.

This is me w/ M:TG btw, but I've also done the "use Portal decks and ignore most of the rules" thing.

marmotwolof, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 01:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

I found a coffee table on the streets of Madison once whose top was a glass plate covering a tiling of just a single magic card. I don't recall what it was, but it must have been the "unwanted" card.

libcrypt, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

there was originally some card that involved ripping one of your opponents cards that got "banned" under the sanctioned rules...have no idea what it was called.

I had a mox sapphire! and sold basically everything i had owned at some point in '98 (when i was 19) probably for like 450 on ebay...

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:25 (nine years ago) Permalink

spent several hours on saturday night playing Magic with ian and was pretty consistently beaten by his blue & black deck.

elmo argonaut, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

apparently people play creatures in type 2 nowadays? I am sort of suspicious of this, it's not pokemon. I wish I hadn't lost all my cards.

Gravel Puzzleworth, Monday, 29 October 2007 14:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

i am so mad i couldn't find my old white/green deck when i was home this weekend.

ian, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

my favorite is the red & white deck.

bell_labs, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

people used to call blue and black decks "bruise" decks.

-- Ronan, Monday, October 29, 2007 9:16 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

fuck yeah

deej, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

red & white is a hard deck to play!

max, Monday, 29 October 2007 16:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

there were good all red or all green decks around the time the "mirages" (was that its name) edition of cards came out.

Ronan, Monday, 29 October 2007 18:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Lightweights. I suspect Gravel may be hardcore, if he's referring to the fact that Morphling used to be the only playable creature.

Creatures are for Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh. Magic is a game of technique.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can only say all this after spending way too much time sniping cards on eBay in order to play something like 3 times in the last year.

The fortunate thing is that Magic card prices seem to be way more stable than the dollar, so that's money in the bank folks.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

I did Magic waaay early on. By the time I was too cool for it I gave everything to some neighborhood kid, if only I had sold it for $$$ ;_;

Jordan, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

Was not at all impressed by Wizards Of The Coast's headquarters. It's like a mile from Ikea in Renton and looks like any other corporate headquarters. I at least expected animatronic dragons or constant fireworks displays or something other than reflective glass and a fucking fountain.

s. morris, Monday, 29 October 2007 19:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is very close to what I ran yesterday. I agree with swapping in copter. A couple changes I'm seeing in the PT lists is swapping Wanderer with Thraben Inspector and Nebelgast with Reflector Mage. I'm on board with swapping in Inspector, but I don't really like Mage over Nebelgast because you lose a lot of flash and spirit synergies, and a lot of the creatures you might bounce with Mage have strong ETB effects.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:09 (one week ago) Permalink

the pt deck is very much just a UW midrange deck, not a spirits deck. that's fine as well, you just need to be comfortable with playing grindier games rather than aggroing people out

ciderpress, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:10 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm going to try keeping in Nebelgast, I don't feel like I'd get much from Reflector Mage. I'm happy with the deck's ability to shift gears towards control as is.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:37 (one week ago) Permalink

nebelgast is definitely better in the tribal version

ciderpress, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:39 (one week ago) Permalink

okay so I just got matched up against the same dude twice in a row during a Sealed league, which sucks because even though I won the first match (thanks to him getting colorscrewed in game 3), his deck was absolutely nuts and I got obliterated the second match. didn't know that was possible!!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 03:34 (six days ago) Permalink

yeah its not supposed to happen i dont think? but its definitely happened to me in constructed leagues where theres fewer players in the pool

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 03:45 (six days ago) Permalink

here's where i'm currently at with colossus

it really feels like its missing some major piece but it'd have to be a noncreature artifact and i've scoured all of standard and haven't found it yet - have tested everything up to and including aetherflux reservoir

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 04:22 (six days ago) Permalink

Panharmonicon isn't playable, is it? Doubles up Crane, Prism, Puzzleknot, Trap, Skysovereign, but I doubt even that is enough to earn its place

Seer's Lantern seems like it could be ok though. Maybe Terrarion?

Vinnie, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 04:33 (six days ago) Permalink

ive tried those. panharmonicon is crappy, the others are okay but dont really improve things especially in the bad matchups. i think more keys + kozilek's return might be worth pursuing

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 04:51 (six days ago) Permalink

what's the Woodweaver's Puzzleknot for?

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:14 (six days ago) Permalink

artifacts for colossus and helping stay alive, presumably

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:25 (six days ago) Permalink

I'm excited for 24 months of turn 4 Aetherworks Marvel cheating a massive win condition onto the board!

Remember when it felt like Collective Company was Standard-legal forever?

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:30 (six days ago) Permalink

But seriously, I generally take wotc's endless and capricious tweaks to their model in stride, but this new change has me irritated. Was the new set rotation really just an unmitigated disaster?

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 17:13 (six days ago) Permalink

yeah this completely blindsided me and everyone else i know, so a lot of negative feedback must have been coming from newer/less competitive players. i'm fine with it though it sucks that the set that benefits most from it is oath of the gatewatch which has a lot of overbearing midrange cards and not a lot of fun synergy stuff

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:15 (six days ago) Permalink

People seem pretty positive about the change, so I guess the shorter rotation was pretty unpopular. I was personally happy to see baby Jace, Collective Company, and Dromoka's Command go away, and I wasn't particularly saddened to bid farewell to Siege Rhino or fetchlands before that. It seems like every Standard format has a handful of obnoxious cards that overstay their welcome.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:20 (six days ago) Permalink

xp green puzzleknot is just for staying alive while progressing towards colossus. in a perfect world you'd get to play black puzzleknot in that slot but we need to make concessions to aggro, and vs control it still ends up representing half of a colossus redraw at some point which isn't the worst

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:31 (six days ago) Permalink

jace and collected company would have had the same run under either rotation scheme since they were from spring/summer sets. siege rhino and the fetchlands did get cut short though.

the losers here are obviously the spring/summer blocks, i wonder if they'll make a conscious effort going forward to put what they think is the better constructed set of each pair of blocks in the fall slot. kaladesh seems like a nice one to have for the max length but if there's something particularly sweet in HOUR OF DEVASTATION it still only gets 15 months.

ciderpress, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:32 (six days ago) Permalink

Yeah I too had no idea it was an unpopular change, but most of the Magic players I hear opinions from are pretty deep into competitive play. As someone who basically never plays Standard but enjoys watching it, I like the format changing often, but obv my opinion doesn't count for much

Vinnie, Thursday, 20 October 2016 00:23 (five days ago) Permalink

it's pretty unusual for standard to have a card go coast to coast as the best card, even collected company wasn't oppressive until reflector mage which came out halfway through its window

ciderpress, Thursday, 20 October 2016 01:12 (five days ago) Permalink

While you mention Collected Company, sometimes I wonder how much the current state of things affects players' opinions. For example, I bet it was a lot easier for players to swallow the change to all Standard PTs after the Modern PT this year. Collected Company was kind of an exception to Standard, I think pretty clearly the best card in Standard this year when there isn't always a best card, and I wonder if some of the players who don't like the change to a slower rotation have that card's oppressiveness in mind (I certainly do)

Vinnie, Thursday, 20 October 2016 01:45 (five days ago) Permalink

Woot! Took down Game Day with spirits, the deck is the real deal. I'm so glad that it has improved with rotation. Losing CoCo was a big factor in this. My last two rounds today were against bant decks that were not quite so good without it.

I also tried out vehicles at FNM this week, with mediocre results. The deck is good, I'm sure my results were down to weak gameplay, but I don't like being all-in aggro at this point. I felt exposed without all the answers that spirits provides.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Sunday, 23 October 2016 20:34 (two days ago) Permalink

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