Cover your face as the animals die - it's The Cure Pornography Poll!!

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Yeah Hanging Garden is a maelstrom of a single. I recently re-discovered the demo version included on the remaster. Funny to see how it started as a song that would have sat comfortably on 'Faith'

baaderonixx, Sunday, 28 December 2008 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link

bump

Bee OK, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 05:07 (fifteen years ago) link

It sounds like a demo for "Charlotte Sometimes" as much as "The Hanging Garden" (x-post)

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 05:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 1 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 2 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm surprised "Cold" did as well as it did.

ilxor, Friday, 2 January 2009 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Really? I think its awesomeness is reasonably well appreciated round these parts.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Friday, 2 January 2009 10:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I voted Cold.

Nate Carson, Friday, 2 January 2009 12:39 (fifteen years ago) link

forgot to vote :-/ wd probably have given the title-track some love

REMOVE THEIR EARS (country matters), Friday, 2 January 2009 12:42 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

1 vote for Siamese Twins?! You gotta be kidding me, ILM

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 07:35 (fifteen years ago) link

1 vote for Siamese Twins?! You gotta be kidding me, ILM

yeah, that was my thoughts as well. can't believe that i was the only vote for that incredible song.

Bee OK, Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Again, tough to choose.

I'd probably roll with "Pornography" or "The Figurehead." I'll be extra controversial and say that I like the recording on the TRILOGY concert set more than the original.

BLASPHEMY!

Matt M., Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:38 (fifteen years ago) link

The fact that "Pornography" received no votes is a) astonishing and b) indicative of the unrelenting awesomeness of this amazing record

Hell, even "A Short Term Effect" is the business.

Zayatte Mondatta (country matters), Thursday, 2 April 2009 10:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah "Short Term Effect" is objectively the weakest track on this - but is indeed the biz

baaderonixx, Thursday, 2 April 2009 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay, earning my goth card, today. I've almost listened to this whole album again for the first time since 1985. I understand why people complained about Siamese Twins not finishing better. Strange Day is awesome as well. But still these cannot compare to the fucking synthesizers on "Cold". Still, the title track at the end is liable to take me away in the fucking goth paddy waggon, never a Bimble to be heard from again.

I earned my goth card today.

To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

wait, the 1 vote for "Siamese Twins" should have been from me.

maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

"Figurehead" is pretty good, too. That's the only other one I wanted to mention. Thanking U

To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I woulda voted for Siamese Twins too.

ham hand (circa1916), Monday, 6 April 2009 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm playing it again. Because I am going to out-goth the entire universe and no way can you stop me.

Old stuff by The Cure Saved Bimble (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh! My god! This album! wow wowowoowwoowowow'

Check "Cold" to find out how goth you are. Take the temperature, man.

Old stuff by The Cure Saved Bimble (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

There's nowhere for me to go after In Orange but this album. I'm having a complete and total Cure trip out today and I don't care what people think of that.

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Enjoy! It is their best album by far, IMHO. And I love some of the others a lot.

StanM, Sunday, 7 June 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I MUST FIGHT THIS SICKNESS

Douglas, Sunday, 7 June 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

FIND A CURE...

[Ron Howard:] Hey, that's the name of the band!

the England guy that throws the balls (country matters), Sunday, 7 June 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Check "Cold" to find out how goth you are. Take the temperature, man.

lolol <3 Bimble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ip3K-4EK4k

A very rare and COLOUR performance of 'the Cure' in a very strange period of the group.
Here we have Robert Smith on guitar, Lol Tholhurst on percussion, Steve Severine on bass and Anne Stephenson & Virginia Hewes as the Venomettes Strings on violin.

COLOUR

nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Sunday, 29 November 2009 11:32 (fourteen years ago) link

The lyrics of 'Siamese Twins' from "Leave me to die" until "it fades and spins" are among my favourite lyrics ever

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Especially "I walked away and grew old", that line in context is about as good as lines get

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:05 (fourteen years ago) link

The best album about the awfulness of LSD ever.

Doran, Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link

There's nothing awful about LSD therefore GTF

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

It depends on how you use it. And if you use it excessively to provoke temporary psychosis in order to plumb internal depths and then translate into brilliant monolithic and bleak album of solipsism and horror, I guess it could, reasonably, be described as awful.

Doran, Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

"A Strange Day" is so so so good

HI DERE, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't remember how I voted, Strange Day methinx, but I now want a revote... for Figurehead

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I earned my goth card today.

― To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Monday, April 6, 2009 3:35 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

<3 <3 <3

seger ros (crüt), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

playing the Pornography rarities disk today and am remembering that "Temptation" is great; I wish it had lyrics

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

(yes I know it morphed into "Let's Go To Bed" so don't quote those lyrics at me)

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDHee4d4WBY

Duke, Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, somehow the audio/video is not in synch in that clip.

Duke, Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

lol I'd forgotten that "Temptation Two" has lyrics

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

OMG I am reading the worst rock biography in the world (do not ask why, I just needed to read a rock bio and I picked this one) and the writer of this bio thinks that the lyric "something small falls out of your mouth and we laugh" is LITERALLY about "a small object tumbling from someone's mouth".

How fucking utterly stupid and unable to understand metaphor would you have to be to read that lyric as meaning that.

Wow. I wanted to read a bad rock bio, and I sure got one.

(This will teach me to read a Cure biography by someone who reckons Faith is a bad album. Shaking my damn head.)

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link

(p.s. what about this thread is not work safe?)

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 21:01 (ten years ago) link

(the title of the album showing up in yr browser history)

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 21:11 (ten years ago) link

Cover your face as the animals do it

set the trolls for the heart of the sun (how's life), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 21:15 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

one after the other

imago, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link

not sure if i have said this yet but i now think this is probably the Cure's best album. so gloomy and dark and really perfect overall.

Bee OK, Thursday, 17 November 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

I was just about to post this

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

I have been blurting some random thoughts to Ned via Messenger re: this album after I read that piece and I might as well copy them over here:

I was just thinking the other day about how perfect this album is; I mean, IMO the weakest song is "A Short Term Effect", which is borderline astonishing because that is a great song.

How the whole album manages to shift through all of these different iterations of raging despair, finding all of the shades in a seemingly monochromatic emotional palette that we like to pretend aren't there in order to elevate our everyday happiness... They were never this _angry_ for a sustained period of time ever again in their career, which bums me out a little because it seems like rage is one of his bests muses.

There are so many ways in which The Hanging Garden is their best studio construction as far as their singles go. It's the only one they can't really do justice to live because of all of the effects ping-ponging off of each other, filling in the space in the surprisingly sparse arrangement and turning the whole thing into a towering, oppressive wall of sound.

I love this album so much, it is literally my lifeblood.

Man, The Figurehead. I don't even know how to start talking about this song: the death march drums; the inexorable bass; the stately, mechanical guitar; the meandering melodic line that spirals slowly into quiet madness; he instrumental bridges and choruses connecting each quietly communicated nightmare... There's an alternate script for Lost in Translation lurking somewhere in here.

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

yeah that's a good write-up

the two songs that got 0 in this poll have got to be two of the best songs ever to get 0 in an ilx album poll

imago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

There isn't a song on here that is worse than 8/10.

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

srsly

and only one vote for siamese twins i mean that song has the best lyrics of anything

imago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I was very surprised at that. I thought that Smash Hits would have given Rio a high rating, but obviously not!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link

They gave Seventeen Seconds 8/10 and Faith 7/10. Surprisingly, they gave The Top 8/10 too.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

The Head on the Door got 8.5/10

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

tbf that review would absolutely make me want to hear the record, but I'm weird

Wimmels, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link

They liked The Associates, so hey.

Mark G, Friday, 19 May 2017 06:26 (six years ago) link

I've just ordered the 2-disc remaster of this. Perhaps my fave, next to The Top.

Duke, Friday, 19 May 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

IS IT ALWAYYYYS LIKE THIS!?!!!

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 16 March 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

weird results; a strange day is my least favorite track on this by far. great lyrics, but the main chord progression has always been off-putting and annoying to me. it's... a personal problem, i guess :)

i love the rest of it without reservation tho. gun to my head to pick one, i'd go with cold.

J. Sam, Saturday, 16 March 2019 20:18 (five years ago) link

I always had a headache when I got done listening to this album, so ended up getting rid of it. Like too much red wine.

screator, Sunday, 17 March 2019 04:30 (five years ago) link

I remember the giddy thrill of buying this album last in my hurried retrospective purchases after The Head on the Door captured my 16 year old heart (yes I am that old). I thought well it can't be as intense as all that, and then it WAS.
Jump forward 30 years and hearing a montage on The Americans cut to "Siamese Twins" blew my mind all over again.
Also Ben Frost's quite amazing album By the Throat samples and loops "A Strange Day" beautifully.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 17 March 2019 04:43 (five years ago) link

and how fantastic is this? I've never seen the guys quite so incredibly fried.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB9ZVtZL6Bg

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 17 March 2019 04:49 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

i know it isn't, but "the figurehead" is a metal song

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link

it and Siamese Twins and this whole album are the heaviest music made

imago, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

what the hell is up with the drum sound on this record, it sounds like a rhythm box recorded from the othe rend of a long hallway

sleeve, Friday, 19 June 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link

that's pretty much it afaik - I think they used a Linn drum to get the oppressive rhythm on some tracks

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 19 June 2020 05:56 (three years ago) link

I mean it's great for what it is, but part of me craves hearing these songs with, like, really well recorded toms

sleeve, Friday, 19 June 2020 06:04 (three years ago) link

bro, do you even like 1982 new wave records?

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 19 June 2020 06:26 (three years ago) link

^^^ this lol

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 19 June 2020 06:39 (three years ago) link

I want it seething with compression and dry ice, the vocals and guitars mangled into a flat roar, it's fucking Pornography dude

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 19 June 2020 07:21 (three years ago) link

xxp lol yes, it just took me aback after not hearing it for many years

in the end I do prefer e.g. 23 Skidoo's Seven Songs w/r/t 1982 drum soundz

sleeve, Friday, 19 June 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

The drum sound makes this record IMO

Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Friday, 19 June 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

A Tim's Twitter Listening Party on this album is happening as I type and now I have learned something new, or at least seen it for the first time:

The start of the infamous " Beer sculpture " We kept every can or bottle we drank making Pornography until the end. This looks to be about day 4, we were there for a long time... #TimsTwitterListeningParty pic.twitter.com/49DVhUp291

— Lol Tolhurst (@LolTolhurst) October 10, 2020

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 October 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link

Oh I missed that. But you can reenact the listening party on his website

Duke, Sunday, 11 October 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

https://timstwitterlisteningparty.com/pages/replay.html

Duke, Sunday, 11 October 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

Will listen later!

Duke, Sunday, 11 October 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

40 years old now, wow:

https://louderthanwar.com/the-cure-pornography-1982-2022-a-40th-anniversary-reappraisal/

Bee OK, Thursday, 5 May 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link


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