i love surm's grandmotherly belief in her disappointing progeny
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha yeah that's totally what his "oh lindsay still looks fine" posts are like
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
thx guys. to be fair, i am not nearly as passionate about what lindsay is doing these days as i am about rihanna.
― surm, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah... he did.
― surm, Monday, September 26, 2011 6:03 PM Bookmark
still do, even
― Ford Cumlord (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
surm you seem to just be coming back to the song's essential simplicity and clarity, so let me rephrase the question. in the opening post you say the song is meditative. what do you think it's meditative about?
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think it is meditative about a difficult time, and reflective about finally finding something hopeful and natural to balance the darkness with light.
― surm, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
a meditative song wouldn't just say "we found love," it would muse "now that we found love what are we gonna do with it?"
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
I consider Haddaway's "What Is Love" to be quite meditative in this sense as well. It's structured a bit like a legal claim:
1. What is love?
2. (Further and in the alternative) baby don't hurt me
PARTICULARS a) Don't hurt me no more.
The singer recognises that it might be ambitious to expect his audience to answer his opening question, so he offers a more straightforward injunction which he assumes (I think correctly) any reasonable person would consider it appropriate to comply with. This kind of staged, strategic compartmentalisation of positions indicates a thoughtful and flexible approach to what can be a thorny problem.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
the repetition also contributes to this effect.
― surm, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 05:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Tim, love you dude, but that post made my head spin.
― Ford Cumlord (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
For the sake of pop music everywhere I hope this bombs. The idea of Calvin Harris becoming the go-to producer for massive American pop acts (as opposed to faintly desperate British ones) is too horrible to contemplate.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
I find this line of argument compelling.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 10:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 10:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
MDC otm
― Ford Cumlord (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sounds like a happy hardcore record on 33.
― errant flynn, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.metro.co.uk/music/876712-smoking-rihanna-falls-foul-of-farmer-while-filming-video-in-northern-ireland
This video controversy for the song made the local tv news this morning.
I wonder if her smoking is affecting her voice?
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
they should make that pic the single cover
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
if it wasnt already this i mean
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
word
― surm, Sunday, 2 October 2011 15:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
that skirt looks like its made of upside down fat man jeans
― u0sd0ןɟ (flopson), Sunday, 2 October 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
it totally is
― surm, Sunday, 2 October 2011 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
ha, u rite
― The Reverend, Sunday, 2 October 2011 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
#16 on the hot 100
― surm, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
nice to see rihanna finally having some chart success
― Am the ship hence S.O.M.E. (some dude), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
i would "like" that comment if i could
― surm, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
yes. http://www.whosay.com/rihanna/videos/81494
a video about rihanna smoking. and trippin. with a hot andro dude.
song's in the top 10.
― surm, Thursday, 20 October 2011 00:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
gosh, it's already Rihanna's 15th most successful single to date! very exciting!
― some dude, Thursday, 20 October 2011 01:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Tim F, Thursday, 20 October 2011 01:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was surprised by how intense the video is! Makes the hopelessness of the place seem the point of the song, rather than the finding of love. Ah I see r|t|c in fact predicted this upthread.
Isn't Britney doing a video like this too? Is UK housing estate chic suddenly a big thing this year?
Think I like this song now. It does need a big vocal climax though.
― Tim F, Friday, 21 October 2011 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
One thing the video does quite well is to give some thematic purpose to the cheapness of Harris' synths, like: even the euphoria is borrowed, precarious, a facsimile of euphoria.
― Tim F, Friday, 21 October 2011 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
That's generous
― Number None, Friday, 21 October 2011 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
totally agree about the video meshing with the synths more than it does with the finding love theme, tim
― surm, Saturday, 22 October 2011 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
That is a really super British video.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 22 October 2011 01:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, so her man in that video looks like Chris Brown.
― Jessie J Pink!man (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 22 October 2011 01:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Tim F, Saturday, 22 October 2011 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
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― surm, Saturday, 22 October 2011 02:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
the video is just rihanna-does-skins, complete with shitty music
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 October 2011 06:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol nice try but no
how is rihanna-doing-skins NOT akin to those synths?
― surm, Saturday, 22 October 2011 06:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Surm, lex's world of pop Is one of absolutes. The evil of Harris is beyond redemption.
― Tim F, Saturday, 22 October 2011 09:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't know why but I think "Talk That Talk" is a brilliant name for a Rihanna album in 2011.
― ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Saturday, 22 October 2011 09:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
tim...calvin harris is a dreadful producer. his style and his sound hasn't changed so why on earth would my opinion of him change?
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 October 2011 10:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
i agree talk that talk is a great album title though, and she's been recording with terius so i have hope that this song will be calvin harris's only presence on it
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 October 2011 10:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
I wasn't really saying you were wrong Lex.
― Tim F, Saturday, 22 October 2011 11:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Tim F, Friday, 21 October 2011 22:59 (Yesterday) Bookmark
quality stuff imo
― r|t|c, Saturday, 22 October 2011 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
was it just me that found the quick frame of a big mouth billy bass after the first "hopeless place" so hilarious
rather found it hard to work myself up to the necessary level of intensity after that
― r|t|c, Saturday, 22 October 2011 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
(let me just take that hopeless plaice joek away from you before you think of posting it.)
― r|t|c, Saturday, 22 October 2011 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
really enjoying hearing this song on the radio. while i think it's pretty miraculous that the calvin harris produced single has some salvageable tastefulness & wouldn't nec look forward to an entire album produced by him & his ilk, i am kind of bored of terius/rihanna and i think a maybe tinny, shiny ravey album with dark/deep themes would be cool on a kelis - flesh tone tip
― flopson, Saturday, 22 October 2011 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
we already had "only girl" and "s&m"
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 October 2011 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
every time i hear afrojack's "take over control" on the radio i think 'this should have been the new rihanna single' the same way people used to do w/ "whip my hair"
― some dude, Saturday, 22 October 2011 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
otm
― markers, Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
uh nevermind
― markers, Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
OK i surrender
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:50 (11 months ago) Permalink
^^ love in a hopeless trace
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:03 (11 months ago) Permalink