lol it's true that the producers getting ft. credit thing is kind of annoying, i guess they're just trying to build something resembling name recognition so they can sell some of the producers' own "lead singles" later (like the afrojack song with eva simons which is slowly climbing the charts right now). i hope this song's existence does not mean that calvin harris will try to "break" america
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 24 September 2011 05:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
I disliked "Only Girl" at first but grew to love it, which makes me wary of judging this straightaway. Have no in-principle objection to Calvin Harris (at least not since his first album)- but I'm glad he doesn't sing on this.
― Tim F, Saturday, 24 September 2011 05:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think i'd quite like the big chorus in a different context but calvin harris is just such an awful producer - he and his rinky-dink plinky-plonk toy keyboard both need to be burned at the stake, it's unlistenable.
rihanna's choice of producer is on such a downward slope but i can't imagine who could be worse than harris
― lex pretend, Saturday, 24 September 2011 10:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
official youtube here
― dayo, Saturday, 24 September 2011 10:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
If Calvin Harris had never sang on any of his own records I would have such a better reaction to hearing his name.
This sounds exactly what I thought it would sound like, I'm not sure if that's a bad thing or not.
― ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 10:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah it's his voice that really gets to me too. It doesn't matter what he does I will always hear him singing "I get all the girls I get all the girls" or his annoying face in the Dizzee Rascal Dance With Me video. Okay it's his voice and face that I hate.
I really like We Found Love, probably more than anything on Loud at the moment.
― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 24 September 2011 11:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
― some dude, Saturday, 24 September 2011 03:39 (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 September 2011 11:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
He just oozes that affectation and sliminess in his vocal performances. "Feel So Close" makes me think the girl he's chatting to is blissed out on drugs while he's just slightly tipsy and saying the right things to get her into bed.
― ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 11:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
can't help but feel like maybe this reading of his vocal performance goes psychologically 'too far'
― 347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Saturday, 24 September 2011 12:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah her voice sounds great on this but the production is.....tedious
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
can r&b stop being so shitty-european? especially when it could be awesome-germans-european?
― Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
can people stop listening to rihanna and expecting r&b?
― some dude, Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like the production on this. euro-rihanna is a nice pairing.
― surm, Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
please dont stop the music>>>>>>>>this
― dayo, Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
totally
― some dude, Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
well sure
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
the only thing idg is why there arent vocals after the build up, just waiting for her to sing, feels interminable. but ya she sounds amazing & makes the song
― flopson, Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
i will always rep for pls don't stop the music, but i appreciate how this does not hit me over the head with a melody
― surm, Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
j0rdan whats the one calvin harris jam that is a jam?
― flopson, Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm not alone
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
can't wait for the remixes of this track tho, good vocal as mentioned above
― dayo, Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
wow it sounds even more boring the 2nd time around
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
― flopson, Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:38 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yeah, it really feels like it should slam into the verse there.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
song is effortlessly stunning
― surm, Sunday, 25 September 2011 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
imo best thing about a new album cycle is that presumably she'll have a new look and ditch the stupid-looking red hair
― some dude, Monday, 26 September 2011 11:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
the red hair is the only thing i really liked about the loud aesthetic
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 September 2011 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
― The Reverend, Saturday, 24 September 2011 20:52 (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
ya this has kinda become the sole point of intrigue for me with this song; it doesnt quite suggest a void but maybe a sort of disquieting plainness, idk. like you're left thinking more about the hopeless place than the finding love, and then whether that's a thing to embrace rather than overcome
will probably have a decent life as a lonely xmas jam i imagine
― r|t|c, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
this has kinda become the sole point of intrigue for me with this song
I know, right?
― Ford Cumlord (The Reverend), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
the build up is so lazy btw. maybe it's just the youtube but the calvin harris portion of this sounds so skeletal and underproduced.
― dayo, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't mind how plain and pronounced the lead-in is. makes you wait for it.
― surm, Monday, 26 September 2011 22:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
the whole thing is plain
― Ford Cumlord (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
i find it unfettered as opposed to plain
― surm, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
ilm has been wrong about rihanna for the past year
― flopper? i'd cyndi laup'er (flopson), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey, I liked "only girl", "what's my name", and "man down"
― Ford Cumlord (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah... he did.
― surm, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
what is it that's not fettered?
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
i dunno if ilm has enough consensus about rihanna over the past year to be right or wrong per se
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
agreed.
xp, to my ears, the tune and the vocals, and the sound in general.
― surm, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
i love surm's grandmotherly belief in her disappointing progeny
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha yeah that's totally what his "oh lindsay still looks fine" posts are like
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
thx guys. to be fair, i am not nearly as passionate about what lindsay is doing these days as i am about rihanna.
― surm, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
― surm, Monday, September 26, 2011 6:03 PM Bookmark
still do, even
― Ford Cumlord (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
surm you seem to just be coming back to the song's essential simplicity and clarity, so let me rephrase the question. in the opening post you say the song is meditative. what do you think it's meditative about?
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think it is meditative about a difficult time, and reflective about finally finding something hopeful and natural to balance the darkness with light.
― surm, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
a meditative song wouldn't just say "we found love," it would muse "now that we found love what are we gonna do with it?"
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 01:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
I consider Haddaway's "What Is Love" to be quite meditative in this sense as well. It's structured a bit like a legal claim:
1. What is love?
2. (Further and in the alternative) baby don't hurt me
PARTICULARS a) Don't hurt me no more.
The singer recognises that it might be ambitious to expect his audience to answer his opening question, so he offers a more straightforward injunction which he assumes (I think correctly) any reasonable person would consider it appropriate to comply with. This kind of staged, strategic compartmentalisation of positions indicates a thoughtful and flexible approach to what can be a thorny problem.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 04:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
the repetition also contributes to this effect.
― surm, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 05:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Tim, love you dude, but that post made my head spin.
― Ford Cumlord (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
For the sake of pop music everywhere I hope this bombs. The idea of Calvin Harris becoming the go-to producer for massive American pop acts (as opposed to faintly desperate British ones) is too horrible to contemplate.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 09:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
I find this line of argument compelling.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 10:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
"cockiness" and "do ya thang" are def the two OMFG 10/10 tracks
― uberweiss, Saturday, 19 November 2011 04:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
can somebody email me pls thx
― surm, Saturday, 19 November 2011 04:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
like, just to talk?
― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 04:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol no
― surm, Saturday, 19 November 2011 04:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
u kno i'm not good with finding stuff online
― surm, Saturday, 19 November 2011 04:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
altho i would love to talk to you anytime jordan
cockiness is kind of awkward and annoying imo
"watch n learn" is the definite 10/10 standout here
I also like "where have you been" and "you da one"
― Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 19 November 2011 04:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
ya watch and learn is tops for sure
― Jacques_Lamure, Saturday, 19 November 2011 05:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
i was into cockiness
― surm, Sunday, 20 November 2011 04:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
"watch n learn" isn't annoying but she's done so many better songs like it in the past
"cockiness" and "do ya thing" are the only keepers for me, maybe "roc me out" has enough physical force that i might cave if it's ever a single? "drunk on love" is a massive missed opportunity, i actually love what they've done to the xx beat but i can't take foghorn fenty being so relentless over it - her vocals are often the weak link on this album.
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 November 2011 07:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like this album a lot, and when it's good, it's really good. but i liked LOUD better. and there are 3 songs on this that i think are pretty much crap.
1) We All Want Love. please.
2) Roc Me Out. just sounds v derivative of her older stuff, and i'm sorry but i just don't know anybody who says things like "roc me out" or "roc me in" or "rock u" it's a weird title trend that i just am not feeling.
3) Farewell. is this supposed to be the new California King Bed? not as good.
― surm, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
this album is all about "Cockiness"
― Much Ado About Nuttin (DJP), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
been hearing a lot of songs from this on the radio, "Birthday Cake" and "Talk That Talk" are dope and "Cockiness" is total garbage
― lame adele rey (some dude), Friday, 13 January 2012 02:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
these racist tweets from last week are so not a good look. this girl just keeps making me sigh these days
― lex pretend, Monday, 12 March 2012 14:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://allhiphop.com/2012/03/09/non-hip-hop-rumors-were-rihannas-recent-rice-cake-tweets-racist/
not gon lie, i like this album a lot and all, but i definitely not have not felt the pull to listen to as i did the last one
― surm, Monday, 12 March 2012 14:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
i've grown to really love this song... easily my fav single of hers since the 'good girl gone bad' stuff
― yolo ono (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 March 2012 14:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
altho i'm sure now that i've typed that out loud imma obsess. also i listened to where have u been the other night and it sounded gr8
and yea i haven't even heard the full cake - the album snippit was off the hook
― surm, Monday, 12 March 2012 14:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
note to bloggers, if you have to ask if something is racist, its probably racist
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 March 2012 14:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
given the "rice cake" line in the "Birthday Cake" remix it really wouldn't've occurred to me that it was anything other than a reference to the song tbh
― some dude, Monday, 12 March 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
then again according to that link "rice cake" is a well known racial epithet, so maybe i should've been hearing the lyric as something other than a stupid rihanna attempt at a clever line?
― some dude, Monday, 12 March 2012 14:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
are rice cakes even sweet?
― surm, Monday, 12 March 2012 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
no idea -- i imagined maybe they were a caribbean thing but i guess they aren't at all
― some dude, Monday, 12 March 2012 14:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
they aren't sweet no. It's like eating polystyrene
― Number None, Monday, 12 March 2012 14:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
The cheddar ones are pretty great tbh.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 12 March 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
finally hearing cake remix. like this v much.
― surm, Thursday, 15 March 2012 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
i heard the birthday cake remix on the radio. i had to shut it off.
― teledyldonix, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
wahhht
― surm, Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
I heard the tail end of it and it reminded me that I despise Chris Brown
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah he's not the best
― surm, Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
everything Rihanna does makes me intensely embarrassed FOR her somehow, her dancing, her videos, her singing, her choice of producers
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
nah she's totally cool
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
haven't seen the where have u been video yet but the song has def grown on me quite a bit
― surm, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh is that a single now? that has always been my secret fave off the album
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
except for the time when 'you da one' was revealing itself as an awesome xmas song
haha the tribal group dancing bit in this video is endearingly shit
thoroughly reminiscent of rakim 'guess who's back'
― r|t|c, Monday, 30 April 2012 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
the tribal dance part is terrible and also she looks like a white lady in it. she's not a very good dancer.
shame cause the rest of the visuals are pretty cool. the bird's nest!
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
― The Reverend, Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
otm
― markers, Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
uh nevermind
― markers, Sunday, 20 May 2012 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
OK i surrender
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 15:50 (11 months ago) Permalink
^^ love in a hopeless trace
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 16:03 (11 months ago) Permalink