http://ihardlyknowher.com/ev4nsk0w/big
i guess this is where i'll be putting my "better" pictures---my other flickr is too crowded/disorganized
some new stuff, mostly old stuff, reworked
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
obv there is google proofing in there
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link
aw man these are great, gbx; the colours really pop in the colour stuff (cf blue guitar), & the b/ws are awesome.
i took a few pictures of a cravat wearing dog a couple of days ago, maybe i can contrast him against the lil guy outside the store you shot once printed.
― 347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i think we saw one of the b&w shots in colour on here, a while back; are the others all shot in b/w or are there any changes? just curious.
― 347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 13:34 (thirteen years ago) link
thx man! i love alfred and the blue guitar. i explained this elsewhere on ilx, but the best part of that pic, for me, is knowing that he doesn't actually play. he just asked to pose with it when i asked to take his picture.
xp actually, all of those are digital---i just liked the way they looked in B&W a little better. virtually all of them have been posted here, i think? :-/ nagl, i know
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, i ~tweaked~ them, redid the cropping (not so many squares, dayo)
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
but the best part of that pic, for me, is knowing that he doesn't actually play. he just asked to pose with it when i asked to take his picture.
ha, that's great. feel like we are getting slightly into the territory of that errol morris book, here.
actually, all of those are digital---i just liked the way they looked in B&W a little better. virtually all of them have been posted here, i think? :-/ nagl, i know
ha that's crazy, they're all great & go well together; i don't think ilx syndication is too damning. i followed the flickr links to check out the cameras involved & was surprised they were all digital - there's something super appealing about the contrast & darkness of some of the shots & i think i'd assumed they were film.
i feel weirder & weirder reading some of the photo threads here because i think i'm pretty bad on a technical level & am probably stubbornly butting my head against analogue, because ~at its apex~ it is superior, to me, when realistically i could probably be doing better in some senses with digital or whatever. i took this photo of some friends a couple of weeks ago (& a bunch that are similar), w/old expired 1600 film, & i like it fine, can handle the visible deficiencies of it not being especially 'clear', but feel pulled up short when i see the radiance/clarity of either great!, well-taken!, digital stuff, like yours - the guy in the shirt with the road in the background -- or of properly exposed film stuff elsewhere.
― 347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link
redid the cropping (not so many squares, dayo)
lol. all of this is really throwing me off your trail, dimensions are the easiest clue to unscramble, for me.
aw thanks man
i was basically cheating on a lot of those ugandan shots, tho, bear in mind---shooting a 28mm summicron on an m8 did a lot of the heavy lifting. aside from framing and being in the right place, the only "decision" i made was to selectively meter the highlights sometimes (w/o adjusting, tho, cuz i didn't know what i was doing). that's why shots like that one from the bus came out like they did, i think.
also i've realized (and had explained by dayo) that getting properly exposed stuff outside is waaay easier than inside, i think?
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, for sure. taking photos indoors i am mainly concerned with getting something to show up, tbh, for posterity. having lots of light to play with, outside, is just a joy, & makes it easier to bring a sense of decision-making to the process, on account of like having the actual horizon as a factor in your depth-of-field decisions.
i am on ebay looking at leicas btw, this is never going to happen.
― 347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
haha, yeah, i realized when going through a lot of these last night that square-cropping really was a thing i was leaning on, and for no good reason? nice for portraits, i think, but looking over some older ugandan photos i saw that i was cropping out stuff that i thought was "extraneous" but was actually kind of interesting as ephemera. (cf the cam in that portrait of my friend jonah, in the wig---friend of mine told me to crop that out and i think it makes the picture way more interesting)
anyway blah show me some of yr stuff dudes. dayo why are yr flickrs just pics of cameras i want to own???
xp lololol i have spent approx 45min/day of the last WEEK looking at M3s and M4s on ebay
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link
have 'issues' so not posting urls, but click my name for a link (warning link will expire after 24 tense hours).
re: leicas, really i think the worst thing that could happen would be me ever getting one, i prefer having the crutch of imagining some vast leap in quality were i to obtain a great camera.
― 347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
thx for the link man, i will keep yr secrets (i was p hesitant to my govt named link up there, but i figure a lot of ppl on ilx know who i am by now anyway, and ILP is a ~backwater~)
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
it's cool as long as we all have enough on each other to make sure no-one squeals. now keep it quiet about what my dad looks like.
― 347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
― forced to change display name (gbx)
^^ sage move
― 347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
haw
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
really love the dancing pic and the one of the men playing cards, btw! and the whole look yr getting (with old stock yeah?) is p cool
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I really like your work, gbx. That shot of the woman with her walker kills me.
Was at a tiny gig this past weekend and shot a bunch of pictures, but I was a disappointed with how they came out in the low light. This one seems to have a retained a little impact, anyway:
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6153/6168397740_f698032f52.jpg
― Millsner, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
hey thank you! i feel like the guys playing cards* is a little generically 'otherly' somehow, but the guys' expressions are great, so. stock is mainly just outdated film, so mainly just faded out (through economy rather than aesthetics, really); the super grainy kinda midnight cowboy stuff is a few rolls of like velvia 50, iirc, shot in mid-summer. ty anyhow.
* i actually kinda like that it's ill-exposed enough to bleach out whatever it is that's happening on the table, so you can read it just as guys socially sharing an introspective moment of blankly staring at a table
― 347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that's a good one, mills. yr shooting a gf1, too, right?
and schlump ha that's hilarious about the table, i wondered what it was that drew me. like wtf r u lookin at
also q for mills: is tumblr easy to upload to (like via LR), or is it more "manual"? per the talk upthread about places to display photos that aren't flickr (and milo's thread on 500px), i'm wondering if IHKH is the best bet for the long-term, or if i should make something myself or w/e
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, I've been using a GF1 all through 2011. it's been awesome, but a little iffy once you're into ISO 800+ territory.
AFAIK there are plugins that will upload from lightroom/aperture/whathaveyou, but I add few enough pictures to mine that I'll usually just export a full-res JPEG and upload it manually. the tumblr 'dashboard' is actually p nice. I have barely any followers, but it's always a boost when some random person likes/reposts something I've shot.
― Millsner, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
hmmmm. manually might prevent photorrhea on my part. the whole reason i set up a diff flickr was to force myself to edit more judiciously
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:47 (thirteen years ago) link
aside from framing and being in the right place,
don't sell yourself short! this is the hardest thing to do in all of photography. don't think any less of a picture you made because all you did was 'press the shutter' - by putting yourself in a position to take the picture you did 99% of the heavy lifting already. when I first saw the phrase 'f/8 and be there' bandied about as a photography maxim I was all "???" - but now I realize it's the be there part that's the point. I mean, I would wager that all of HCBs, or Winogrands, greatest shots were probably made using 2 or 3 exposure settings* - the technical stuff washes out once you have 'it'.
anyways lol yeah my flickr is all stuff I am trying to sell/have sold. I have a tumblr but I am getting really close to getting drunk one day and deleting it. still marinating about what a good photo website should be like. maybe start a separate thread.
I do like tumblr as a website but I feel any photo website that how do I shot serious is gonna get sucked up by the tumblr subculture of hyper-fast posting and going viral and all that. a distraction. IHKR looks really nice, I might start using it as a stopgap...
*iirc HCB liked to shoot at f/8, 1/125, with focus set at 5 meters, whenever he was outside. his printer had to deal with the rest. must be nice, not having to print!
― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Thursday, 22 September 2011 01:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Dayo, I have to admit I liked your flickr stream of cameras to sell! Even with the Leica, I've always liked the look of the Canon rangefinders. How are they to use?
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:01 (thirteen years ago) link
depends on how much of a tactile person you are! I am a very tactile person so I pay attention to small details. I've owned a canon 7 and P. the viewfinder is nice, about as big as a leica but not as nice to look through. the rangefinder patch is a circle but doesn't have a clearly defined boundary, so it's fuzzy and not as nice. the shutter sound is a little bit harsher and more strident than a leica but not by much. the film advance is notably rougher than a leica, and I've heard that's the case even after a CLA.
on the other hand, they are cheap and getting cheaper - $150 should get you a canon p, which is one of the greatest looking cameras. of all time. of all time!
http://www.kuroneko-camera.com/images/lenses/canon_50_22_2.jpg
― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link
― forced to change display name (gbx), Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:06 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark
hahah don't get them from ebay - if you aim a serious leica, there are better and more reliable deals to be had. private sellers will always offer a better deal if yer patient enough.
― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
That's reassuring to know about the Canon. I was very close to buying one + lens and viewfinder last winter for, maybe $300-400? but my girlfriend talked me out of it saying "you really want a Leica, so just wait and get a Leica." It was good advice.And *actually* when I picked up the Leica M2 I got it on eBay for a cool $400. It was low because the leatherette was worn and it was a little dinged up, and, I dunno, I bid well? But the seller was local so I could just pick it up in person.
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:11 (thirteen years ago) link
$400 is a really great price for a m2! yeah there is a theory with equipment buying, that you might as well buy what's top of the line, so that way you can never convince yourself that it's your equipment that's the limiting factor, not you.
― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link
My eBay standard operating procedure served me well on that one, which is: find what the *lowest* an object I'd like has ever gone for (in decent condition) and then just keep bidding again and again with that amount as my max (usually entering it 5 minutes or so before ending).And as for not buying the Canon rangefinder, I'd already spent more than enough money on compact fixed-lens rangefinders, or Soviet stuff, or point and shoots, etc., and realized that the Canon would be more of the same. Better to wait a little longer and get the real deal.
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh and I love and use all my compact rangefinders, point-and-shoots, Soviet cameras, etc., but how many do I really need?
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 22 September 2011 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Didn't realize Canon Ps were that cheap. I didn't need to know that. Pretty much all of my bookshelves have an old, cheap camera on them - Agfa Clicks and Clacks, a Canonet, a Rolleicord that I haven't dared test since it went flying during a panic stop five years ago. I restrict that collection to 120 and 35mm, so I could theoretically use them if I got a scanner.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I have a Click, a Clack, an Isola and an Isola II. I need to figure out what else I need to be an Agfa completist
so bummed my canonet broek :(
― forced to change display name (gbx), Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
manually might prevent photorrhea on my part.
Not if you really want to take pictures. Because if you really want to take pictures, you will, and lots of them. The framing and focus may be more carefully considered, but some will be slightly out of focus and unusable, just like with autofocus or point and shoot, where many of your shots are badly framed, and just as bad as if they were all fuzzy. You'll spend more time on each shot, maybe, and maybe some of your shots will be better, and maybe you'll learn more about how your lenses work than you knew before. But don't expect a dramatic drop in the number of shots you take unless you just stop caring to take pictures as much as you used to. Manually focusing and framing a shot does not take that much more effort than merely manually framing a shot.
― DSMOS has arrived (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link
ha, this is fascinating dayo. i think my furtive explorations of how great photographers actually took their shots always run into just vagueness or obfuscation, like you never get hard replicable facts in the books i've read.
Didn't realize Canon Ps were that cheap. I didn't need to know that.
^^^
― 347.239.9791 stench hotline (schlump), Thursday, 22 September 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link
They're still damn fine, too.
― DSMOS has arrived (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2011 13:11 (thirteen years ago) link
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6174/6172091756_bcb58759fb_z.jpg
Out of the the window of the train home. I didn't think anything of this picture at the time, and assumed I had just snapped a big pile of uselessness. But I got all the photos home, and this one jumped at me. In a nice way.
One thing I have definitely learned: never use a 3" screen to judge the aesthetic value of the photos you have taken. It happens A LOT that I see something that I had no idea was there, once I have it on a desktop screen in front of me.
― DSMOS has arrived (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
haha, kenan, i meant manually ~uploading~ pictures to tumblr vs just dragging them to my photostream in LR. that extra step might make me more likely to reconsider which photos i ~really~ want to put out there. i'll still take a bunch of whack pictures, i just won't "publish" all of them
― forced to change display name (gbx), Thursday, 22 September 2011 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I should consider reading even photo threads before posting to them.
― DSMOS has arrived (kenan), Thursday, 22 September 2011 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link
it's cool bro
― forced to change display name (gbx), Thursday, 22 September 2011 13:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Not put anything up here in a while. This is from the alpine garden at the Royal Botanics in Edinburgh.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6176/6171322547_941e6dbb56.jpgAlpine, Edinburgh Botanics by treefell, on Flickr
― the result of limited imagination (treefell), Thursday, 22 September 2011 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I deleted my tumblr, I am joining this new IHKH revolution: 10 pictures from shanghai
http://ihardlyknowher.com/idiotcervantes/big
my only complaint is that it doesn't deal well with verticals at all
― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Friday, 23 September 2011 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link
dude
― (♯`∧´) (gbx), Friday, 23 September 2011 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link
dude! those are wonderful!
and you are right about the verticals
― (♯`∧´) (gbx), Friday, 23 September 2011 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks dude! and yeah I think I'm just not gonna include verticals for now
― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Friday, 23 September 2011 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I was thinking about acing the one I have
― (♯`∧´) (gbx), Friday, 23 September 2011 02:16 (thirteen years ago) link
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6160/6175459934_04a119bc83.jpg
― (♯`∧´) (gbx), Friday, 23 September 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6162/6176764638_39748ef1b0_z.jpg
― lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Saturday, 24 September 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Grabbed on the beach between jobshttp://completelyinthedark.com/main.php?g2_itemId=14438&g2_imageViewsIndex=1http://completelyinthedark.com/main.php?g2_itemId=14435&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
― Proger, Saturday, 24 September 2011 18:15 (thirteen years ago) link