Is there not yet a thread for DRIVE, the forthcoming Ryan Gosling vehicle (geddit)?

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Watch Bronson! It pretty much single-handedly sold me on Tom Hardy's potential.

mh, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah Bronson is flawed but Hardy is really impressive

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Monday, 19 September 2011 14:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd say that as a whole movie it's uneven, but some of the set pieces in there are really great and, hey, if nude Tom Hardy is your thing then it's even better.

mh, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

On thread topic, I actually saw Drive yesterday and will write something here after my thoughts come to a head.

mh, Monday, 19 September 2011 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Logan's Run"

No, seriously: Gosling and Refn can't get enough of each other. They're planning on a remake of this 1976 sci-fi classic, with Gosling playing the starring role of a guy living in a dystopian world where no one is allowed to live past the age of 30. The project has long been in development, with directors like Bryan Singer coming and going. Fingers crossed that Gosling and Refn can succeed where others have fallen short.

am0n, Monday, 19 September 2011 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Last I'd heard an LR remake was going to lower the age to 21 for greater appeal to the core audience.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 September 2011 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

The age in the book is 21!

mh, Monday, 19 September 2011 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

"eyes crossed"

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2011 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

why would anyone cross their fingers that a Logan's Run remake will happen?

Gukbe, Monday, 19 September 2011 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

bcz really, remaking '70s garbage is the summit of cinematic aspiration

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 September 2011 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

can't wait 4 remakes of remakes

am0n, Monday, 19 September 2011 17:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

..(wait for it)... of remakes.

am0n, Monday, 19 September 2011 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Award for Best Movie Musical based on a Musical based on a Movie...

Gukbe, Monday, 19 September 2011 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

"can't wait 4 remakes of remakes"

The Thing is coming out in October.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 19 September 2011 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to remake The Maltese Falcon.

mh, Monday, 19 September 2011 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

they remade Casablanca as Barb Wire, so y not

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 September 2011 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Alan Cumming in Peter Lorre's role

mh, Monday, 19 September 2011 18:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Meryl Streep as Gutman.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2011 18:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

they remade Casablanca as Barb Wire, so y not

I... did not know this

what the hell

sick yr finger up his butt (DJP), Monday, 19 September 2011 18:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rufus Wainwright as the gunsel

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 September 2011 18:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

OK, I just got on a mental tangent of imagining what films would be like with different casts.

Drive starring Seann William Scott as the driver

mh, Monday, 19 September 2011 18:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Drive starring Seann William Scott as the driver

Dude, Where's My Million Dollars?

that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 19 September 2011 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah this isn't Tarantino-style geek violence.

Gukbe, Monday, 19 September 2011 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

i totally fucking enjoyed this.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 09:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

also dr morbius i know this probably won't and shouldn't prompt any public self-reflection but your whole highbrow tsk-tsk schtick is embarrassing and too revealing -- it demonstrates exactly the opposite of what i expect you want it to demonstrate (that you're a cynical sophisticate).

anyway this film is by no means perfect. but i'm deeply skeptical of the usual "style over substance" complaint. style _is_ substance. and this had a lot of style. i didn't like the use of slo-mo, though paradoxically (?) i wish that refn pushed the boundaries of taste (not in terms of violence but in terms of film language) a bit more. on that score i liked the brooding superimpositions.

anyway on the level of "would you recommend that other people see this" i'd say HELL YES.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 09:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

also LOL at people who have well-formed opinions on MOVIES THAT THEY HAVEN'T SEEN.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 09:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

also some reviews seem to complain about gosling + mulligan being "unconvincing." what wold convince them? that they have INTERESTS IN COMMON? or A DEEP INTELLECTUAL CONNECTION? i mean, it's not that kind of movie. their characters are axioms. there's one brief but spellbinding sequence where gosling is about to leave her apartment and there are a few silent close-ups where they lock eyes and it's like THIS IS ON. that's all we need, really.

also nice that the italo revival now has a feature film to its credit. :)

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 09:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean this movie could have been smarter, more intricate. it could have been better. but taken at face value it was super-entertaining to watch.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 09:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha refn is so plastered here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/video/2011/may/22/cannes-film-festival-ryan-gosling

if i was hanging out in cannes with an expense account i'd be sloshed too

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 09:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

also danish accents are fascinating because they basically learn better english than we americans do.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 09:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wasn't looking for "intellectual connections," whateever that means -- I wanted Mulligan convincing as a person, and she wasn't.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

alfred otm

dont get me wrong, i liked the movie, but

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 12:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

one guy i really liked in this was oscar isaac. he was literally the only good thing about ridley scott's Robin Hood too

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 12:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haven't seen this yet, but I'm rather personally offended that Mulligan's character was Latina in the book. Refn cast Mulligan because apparently he none of the actually Latina actresses who tried out clicked with him and Mulligan was the first actress he felt "protective" towards. Kind of gross, tbh. Par for the course though, I guess. I still want to see it, but it's kind of put me off seeing it in the theatre.

Melissa W, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 13:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like I wrote on Saturday, the movie's racial politics are weird.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gosling as a goy Galahad.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

For what it's worth, I also read that they were attempting to cast someone who actually had been in adult films for the part Christina Hendricks played, but they didn't get the results they wanted by going that direction, either. I thought that both seemed authentic to the film, in that the film does not really seem authentic to reality.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Amateurist all kinds of OTM

She Got the Shakes, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought that by keeping most things simple, the film succeeded by doing the few things it did reasonably well. Fleshing out anything would have been a risk. The most expository dialogue we get is from Brooks/Perlman and even then, it's still pretty general. I thought that was an interesting reflection of the lyrics of the songs used somewhat thematically -- in a more complex film, they'd have seemed trite but there was a simplicity to the plot depth that made it work.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 15:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

My highbrow tsk-tsk schtick extends to being a Jackass and Spielberg fan, you may notice now n' then when I am flayed about the latter. (The former is fine bcz, u know, body fluids & sublimated homoism)

I have no well-formed opinions on this film; call them deep and well-grounded suspicions.

What I "wish to project" on this board is nothing, cuz I really don't give a fuck.

so gtfotm

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 15:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I loved the polite, smarmy way in which Brooks dispatches a certain character.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 15:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

style _is_ substance

never heard that before, soooooooo deep

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 15:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mulligan underwritten - and she couldn't bring anything more to it through her skills, sadly - but I think that works for that creepy, "protective" comment reason.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 15:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

havent seen this yet, want to but wont have the cash til its on netflix prolly, but 3D characters in a movie about a face-stompin super-driver strike me as something that might be a bonus, not the draw.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

sure - but the problem is when you spend an excessive amount of time with those cardboard characters

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

sometimes blank flatness can be really engrossing (can't think of an example tho, heh). sometimes you have to take it as a given that the people you are watching are true in their non-3d-ness.

banana mogul (goole), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

speaking a little too generally i guess, and no i haven't seen this movie either.

banana mogul (goole), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

imo stock characters are sometimes best utilized when not fleshed-out too heavily

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

carey mulligan is awful and I do not understand her appeal. What a dud.

homosexual II, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

In this film or in general? I thought she did a decent enough job of awkwardly smiling.

so i had sex with a piñata (mh), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink


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