here it's like 'you were bad at your job' or 'we can't afford you' but 'redundant' gives me a sense of 'you are unnecessary as a human being'
which means it probably was correctly used w/r/t to this banker, but outside of that...
― iatee, Friday, 16 September 2011 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
nobody rly uses redundant as a synonym for unemployed and 'laid off' is more often used instead of 'made redundant' in newspapers etc
i think it's just policemen and their strangely clunky phrasing, cf 'other means of employment' instead of 'a job'
― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
'made redundant' still common terminology iirc, though there's subtle emp. law differences between the two i think
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
it is a shitty term tho, def
― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
eh i dunno, it's quite useful as a means of conveying the right tone of contempt society ought to feel for the wastrel layabouts tbh
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Friday, 16 September 2011 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I have no problem w/redundant. It doesn't imply fault like 'fired' does. It implies that the employer doesn't have any meaningful/profitable work for you to do.
― em vee equals pea queue (Michael White), Friday, 16 September 2011 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
that's awful
― partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 19:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is typical police illiterately pretentious usage though. no one except a policeman would say "he has been redundant for a year". you get made redundant, and then you are unemployed. like how only police say "i was proceeding along oxford st" or "he asked myself how to get to piccadilly circus".
― caek, Saturday, 17 September 2011 07:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
holler
― is it shakeymostep? (cozen), Saturday, 17 September 2011 08:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Redundant is only a little better than 'managed out'. Not by much.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 September 2011 08:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
further underscoring the impotency of the SEC
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/business/sec-official-in-madoff-case-may-draw-a-criminal-inquiry.html?_r=1
― partistan (dayo), Saturday, 17 September 2011 11:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
ts your maddie vs our maddie
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Adoboli (who, let me stress, has yet to enter a plea) was in exchange traded funds – which used to look like unit trusts, but have got increasingly complicated. One of the top market regulators, Mario Draghi, recently described ETFs as "reminiscent of what happened in the securitisation market before the crisis". Read that quote again: he's comparing them to sub-prime mortgages. Most of us should get very worried; rogue traders should go steaming in.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/19/brain-food-ubs-kweku-adoboli/print
― diouf est le papa du foot galsen merde lè haters (nakhchivan), Monday, 19 September 2011 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2011/09/16/why-financial-reform-hasnt-stopped-rogue-traders/
― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 12:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/21/business/dodd-frank-act-is-a-target-on-gop-campaign-trail.html
Republicans say Dodd-Frank is the root of some of today’s economic problems. It has stopped banks from lending to “job creators,” they contend, and is a direct cause of high unemployment. “It created such uncertainty that the bankers, instead of making loans, pulled back,” said Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, speaking at a South Carolina rally over Labor Day weekend where he again called for the law’s repeal.
ahahahaha
hahahah
haha
...
*shoots self*
― Whiney G. Blutfarten (dayo), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 10:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,788462,00.html
for this headline I am not against journalistic muckraking
― dayo, Monday, 26 September 2011 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Jérôme Kerviel, gambled away billions in 2010. He is still serving a three-year jail sentence.
p cool how you can lose billions and just do 3 years in a minimum security jail
that study sounds pretty weak but oh well i'm still always happy when people push the psychopath angle, cuz if there were a cultural and spiritual system that caused and possibly even mandated people who were not psychopaths to behave like psychopaths that system might benefit from review
― the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
never review ILM, please
― dayo, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Milton Parker, Monday, 26 September 2011 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeesh
― runaway (Matt P), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
hahaha! they rule! literally.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
you would think they could afford better cameras
― dayo, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
and thrones
― runaway (Matt P), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
they should throw blood diamonds at all the passing hippies.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm no help cuz i kinda hate all the people involved. the cops, the fatcats, the hippies. they all need some billy club action.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Hibernian Express will shave six milliseconds off that time.Of course, verifiable figures are elusive and estimates vary wildly, but it is claimed that a one millisecond advantage could be worth up to $100m (£63m) a year to the bottom line of a large hedge fund.
This is kind of the real plot of the latest William Gibson novel
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/low-latency-network-to-connect-london-and-hong-kong-40545
― dayo, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
A high-speed fibre network between London and Hong Kong could help decrease financial trading timesFinancial traders and law firms are set to benefit from a new low-latency network between London and Hong Kong, which can conduct data on a round trip from Europe to Asia in around 176 milliseconds.The cable network, run by UK-based trading technology company BSO Network Solutions, has been in place for some time, but previously had to route around large parts of Russia, due to difficulties laying fibre in that country.However, a new lower latency and higher availability ‘Transit Mongolia’ connection has helped to reduce the time of a round trip by more than 20 milliseconds during the last 12 months. Improvements have also been made at BSO’s Ancotel point-of-presence (POP) in Frankfurt and Mega-I POP in Hong Kong.
Financial traders and law firms are set to benefit from a new low-latency network between London and Hong Kong, which can conduct data on a round trip from Europe to Asia in around 176 milliseconds.
The cable network, run by UK-based trading technology company BSO Network Solutions, has been in place for some time, but previously had to route around large parts of Russia, due to difficulties laying fibre in that country.
However, a new lower latency and higher availability ‘Transit Mongolia’ connection has helped to reduce the time of a round trip by more than 20 milliseconds during the last 12 months. Improvements have also been made at BSO’s Ancotel point-of-presence (POP) in Frankfurt and Mega-I POP in Hong Kong.
― dayo, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
the real reason they are installing these new high speed pipes is to have the world's best COD5 ping time
Some dude in my building just volunteered to me out of the blue that he's been camping out on Wall Street.
I guess I kind of support that except I don't really understand the protest. There doesn't seem to be any focus or goal.
― Disraeli Geirs (Hurting 2), Monday, 26 September 2011 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/protesting-in-real-america_25.html
alfred posted this yesterday, it's a good take I think
― iatee, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
This dude can barely contain his excitement at the crash he hopes is coming:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15059135
― StanM, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
(Excesses: pink tie)
― StanM, Monday, 26 September 2011 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.truth-out.org/occupy-wall-street-activists-disrupt-sothebys-art-auction/1316786413
This is pretty effective actually, I think.
― Disraeli Geirs (Hurting 2), Monday, 26 September 2011 22:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
would love to punch the champagne drinkers in the face -- BUT WITH THAT SAID the troll inside me applauds
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 26 September 2011 23:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
OTM
― Disraeli Geirs (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 00:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah you have to admire them. they should do coke too, though
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 00:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
I would love a glass of champagne now tbh
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 00:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Pay a liberal arts grad to bring you one
― can men eat harmony? (admrl), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 00:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
I wish they would drive through the crowd in Bentleys shouting "Pardon me, but if you'd be so kind as to step aside, I've an appointment with the president of the federal reserve. Oh, and do you have any grey poupon?"
― Disraeli Geirs (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 02:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/09/goldman_sachs_has_reduced_its.html
lmao, these guys,
― iatee, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh, and do you have any grey poupon?"
As if they'd ever touch that vulgar stuff!
― What does one wear to a summery execution? Linen? (Michael White), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
It has also gone mostly cashless in the cafeteria and other areas, eliminating the need to pay armored truck companies to haul away the money.
― dayo, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
fwiw this seems like an appropriate thread for our friend Alessio Rastani if u guys haven't seen him yet
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
feel like goldman sachs should mandate an iv drip and colostomy bag so that traders never have to leave their desks
― dayo, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
There's some talk that that guy's a Yes Men-style satirist, but it's too hard to tell anymore.
Perrin takes note of the sneering at Wall St Occupiers:
The Times and others of their class despise democracy. Demonstrations count only in official enemy states. At home, it's unnecessary. Petulant. Naive.
How serious can these kids really be? They use laptops and iPhones to communicate and spread their message. If they were truly radical, they'd use cardboard megaphones. Hand signs. Smoke signals. Using The Man's technology is hypocritical.
http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2011/09/time-never-tells.html
For you fans in D.C.: he's moving there!
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
If Rastani is a satirist, he's built up a somewhat convincing web presence for his stock trading stuff (although I wouldn't put it past the Yes Men or other satirists to do that). Even if he's not though, who is he, exactly? Some trader? Being a trader doesn't make you privvy to any special or secret information, and a lot of traders are idiots. He might be right, he might be wrong, but why was he being interviewed exactly?
― Disraeli Geirs (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
nah yeah rastani seems like the real thing
― thank you BIG HOOS, you brilliant god-man (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
the telegraph has got to the heart of it: he's not a hoaxer, but he's kind of a fake:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/8792829/BBC-financial-expert-Alessio-Rastani-Im-an-attention-seeker-not-a-trader.html
― joe, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
yes...in charlottesville virginia
― iatee, Monday, 6 May 2013 15:06 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
with 66 twitter followershttps://twitter.com/MarottaOnMoney
What I also don't get about the cap proposal -- traditional IRAs already have a tax-free contribution limit per year, so what would the cap change?
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 May 2013 15:06 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
again he has not written '66 pieces for forbes', forbes allows basically anyone to start a forbes blog
― iatee, Monday, 6 May 2013 15:07 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
the seeking alpha of money magazines
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 6 May 2013 15:09 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
Don't care about a Forbes blog, or the W, Post editorial re a Forbes blog, here's the USA Today(!):
The president's proposed budget would cap IRAs and other retirement plans at $3 million, but it could fall below that in future years.
It's not easy to get more than $3 million in a retirement account, which includes IRAs, 401(k) and 403(b) plans. Currently, the cap would affect just 0.03% of retirement accounts, says the Employee Benefit Research Institute.
But despite the above:
Capping IRA could deter savings without helping reduce the deficit, Ronald O'Hanley, president of Asset Management and Corporate Services at Fidelity Investments, argued at a speech to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Wednesday. Most retirement programs are tax deferrals, not tax breaks, he argues: Savers pay taxes when they withdraw. "Not only will such a proposal further challenge retirement savings, it will not generate additional revenue," he says.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2013/04/10/presidents-budget-plan-iras-cap/2071529/
Sure buddy.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 May 2013 15:30 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
http://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk-en/141013/goldman-sachs-hires-particle-physicist-from-the-large-hadron-collider/
― 乒乓, Thursday, 16 May 2013 12:08 (6 days ago) Permalink
New rules to regulate derivatives, adopted last week by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, are a victory for Wall Street
That's from the New York Times
http://truth-out.org/video/item/16500-banks-win-big-as-regulators-refuse-to-rein-in-700-trillion-derivatives-market
A discussion of it from elsewhere
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:06 (6 hours ago) Permalink