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Right so, Luna is supposedly fake. There is no evidence one way or the other as far as I can tell. To be honest I believe that there is more evidence that I can see that she really exists. Chaki has chased Misery off of the thread that (to all intents and purposes) acts as a base (sad as that may sound) for a lot of us on ILX. This whole exchange only lends weight to the idea that tone just doesn't work on the internet and that what's funny for one isn't necessarily funny for everyone. I would hate to see people leave that have no need to, even those posters that I don't care for. Chaki, you seem like a decent guy elsewhere on ILX. Why you feel the need to harass Misery and others, I just don't understand. I feel that there has been a needless hounding of Misery both here and on other threads. She appears to know Luna or at the very least had quite a serious off-board exchange with Luna. I am certain that Luna is a real person posting as she is, I don't think that she would have spent so many years being someone else. Sure, there are examples (Jesse James, that Montgomery person) who have been quite extreme but in both those cases it involved an one-on-one relationship. You state that two posters were badly hurt by Luna. Who exactly? If it comes to unqualifiable statements I myself know of 53 people who have left because of the NB and it's shenanigans. Basically my point is this: people have a right to be left alone when they have done nothing to deserve the negative attention. To be honest I dislike fanning the flames like this but enough is enough as far as I am concerned, what has been said about Misery on the NB was unacceptable! I don't think anyone's health or character should be brought up when they are unable to defend or clarify their position. By banning and then proceeding to mock her you made it a very unbalanced and unfair situation. My final point, if you've made it this far (apologies for putting so many words into a post, I'm sure there are bits that you can copy and paste to your heart's content) is that Misery has done nothing to warrant this attention. If standing up to bullying and idiocy is a punishable offence on ILX then something is very seriously wrong with us as a whole.

As it is, Misery come back, Chaki calm down, Remy and Roxy nice to have you here ditto gear & Ethan. This is not any individual's thread, we are not the watercooler, but there are a core group of posters who do their best to behave well towards one another and offer a distraction from the humdrum world of their desk jobs. We have no rules, just the understanding that bullying and the like aren't welcome.

kv_nol, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

but what if her DOGS aren't real either

a puppy, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I have no idea what any of this is about, but it sure has given this thread a high-schooly feel. Let's get back to the Pits, dudes.

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I have a freaky pit picture. Gotta scan.

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link

at the very least had quite a serious off-board exchange with Luna

Not the only one, from what I hear

ba-dump tish

nabisco, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link

WHO TOOK MY COPY OF "DOG FANCY," GODDAMMITT?????

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Seriously, some evidence would be nice here.

kv_nol, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm just surprised anyone is SHOCKED to hear the accusation that Luna might not be real: did people think she was, like, the only person in the history of the world to have never ever been photographed with her child and/or pets?

I mean, I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

nabisco, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Well yes, I hate having my photo taken as well and am much happier behind the camera.

kv_nol, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link

If people are happier taking this off-board to spare people's feelings (the irony etc) the webmail should work.

kv_nol, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

You hate having your photo taken as much as someone who has porn-quality nude pictures of herself to post to ILX?

nabisco, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, again, I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

nabisco, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link

this stuff mostly makes me ashamed to post here...

Ronan, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

http://komonstersquad.com/assets/images/07_-_Krazee_Dreama.jpg

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

That would still be a yes. (xxxpost)

WTF is going on actually, at this point I'm not as interested in Luna as Misery. I do feel that at least some kind of apology is owed to her for the overreaction and general pile on that happened. I'm not going to hold my breath though.

kv_nol, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

http://komonstersquad.com/assets/images/sonny1.jpg

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

http://komonstersquad.com/assets/images/Kuda21.jpg

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

kv OTM. Irrespective of what beefs people may or may not have with Luna, dragging Lollies songs up when, frankly you hate Kate even more is just stupid.

Sam, if you're still even reading this then mail me.

aldo, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

http://komonstersquad.com/assets/images/Tundra11.jpg

I HAS A 23" HEAD

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

http://komonstersquad.com/assets/images/braukudapup.jpg

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Beth, you are a love.

aldo, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

http://komonstersquad.com/assets/images/cedar%203.jpg

THANK YOU!

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

OTM (xpost)

kv_nol, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

http://komonstersquad.com/html/132.html

WE SAY "LUNA, COME BACK!!!!"

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

OOPS

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

http://komonstersquad.com/html/132.html

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

DAMMIT, it's the cutest of all! I did something WRONG.

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

http://komonstersquad.com/assets/images/Dice&Victor.jpg

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Right so, Luna is supposedly fake.

Perhaps not fake in the Lonelygirl15 sense, but it sure seems like the various bits and pieces she's dropped here don't add up to 100%. And she's certainly a serial punker to various ILX posters.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I find it interesting that she deleted her LiveJournal in the past hour that this has been discussed.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't really find them cute. They are a bit melted looking! Also they are the canine equivalent of the banjo boy from deliverance... (xpost)

ET some names would be helpful or at least some context. One paragraph reprinted by someone I don't necessarily trust in this matter doesn't really prove anything.

kv_nol, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

BTW, does anyone know if Tep has met her? He seems to think that she's his girlfriend.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

http://komonstersquad.com/assets/images/big%20krunchx.jpg

No! She's MY girlfriend!

Beth Parker, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread has shown me some of the ugliest sides of ILX I have ever seen.

Michael White, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

*insert cheap gag about WDYLL here*

kv_nol, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

aldo, that lollies song is about ms misery. also i didnt chase ANYONE off anythread. Luna and Sam left upon their own accord.

chaki, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Bullshit chaki.

kv_nol, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread has shown me some of the ugliest sides of ILX I have ever seen

This thread has shown me some of the ugliest sides of humanity I have ever seen.

Anyway, we return to your regularly scheduled delusions. Back after lunch

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

sam, come back!!

chaki, you need to clarify your humour sometimes - i didn't know you were just messing with me. it's no big deal, but i thought you were giving me shit. it's awesome you're defending your ilx bros, but maybe it would have been better if you just said that right up front, and explained what all this was about. because the rest of us here have been utterly clueless, and that hasn't helped your case.

i'm in no position to comment on luna because i only really know of her through her casual posts on this thread, but i do miss sam already :(.

Rubyredd, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, honest question, MW: I don't get how this constitutes an "ugly side."

People are pointing out that one person has not only gone through a long period of persona-building and misrepresentation (which would be one thing), but actively fucked with and embarrassed people over it in ways that sound ... not cool, to say the least.

And making that claim reveals the ugly side of others?

Again, I'm not saying -- nobody needs my opinion -- but c'mon.

nabisco, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

uhh ok?

Bullshit chaki.

how exactly did i chase them away? what exactly did i do to make them stop posting?
god forbid i try to warn people about a emotional manipulator messing with the heads of a handful of ilxors. what a jerk i am.

xpost nabisco OTM

chaki, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm fully aware who the Lollies song is about, and I'm (I think) fully aware what it is about.

Was there really any need to bring it up other than she was vaguely defending Luna though? Or is it part of some bigger 'fake' outing - because if you don't believe, frankly, that people can change as they grow up (not least in that aspect) then you're kidding yourself.

aldo, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Chaki, the point I think I'm making is that I don't think she's messing with anybody's head here.

I can't speak for Tep, but he hasn't posted here in, what, 6 months?

aldo, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

neither has her other ilx bf's, aldo.

chaki, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Chaki is being fairly graceless, but he's also frustrated as all get-out that people are attacking him on no other basis than the fact that he's calling out someone "beloved" of the softer side of ILX. And I don't know Luna at all, have never really interacted with her, but from what I'm hearing there have been a string of gents from ILX who've had their heads fucked with.

Now, none of those guys is my personal problem, thank goodness. But I'm uncomfortable with the idea that there's someone who picks up on people who are feeling vulnerable/susceptible, based on their personal posts on ILX, and uses these boards as a stalking ground. Esp since when they find out that something has been wrong all along, they're about as likely to cry "foul" as a woman who's been taken advantage of after she did or said something ill-advised -- of course it wasn't THEIR fault, but it's perceived as embarrassing to have been suckered, esp emotionally. I don't like that at all, and I think it would be unfair to ignore that phenomenon.

Laurel, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

hey, i'm going to try to stop responding to all this stuff, but i want to respond to one little comment:

You state that two posters were badly hurt by Luna. Who exactly? If it comes to unqualifiable statements I myself know of 53 people who have left because of the NB and it's shenanigans.

the thing is, kv_nol, this isn't an unqualifiable statement. there are quite a mass of people who have known/suspected/experienced some -- we shall call them 'significant factual discrepancies' -- about this poster for a long time. years, in cases to which i can personally attest. for the most part, people have kept this knowledge under their hats and let her post as she likes. but there are off-board events as well, off-board discrepancies and no-shows and feints, that i will also attest to, and for obvious reasons the people involved don't feel the need to be IDed.

now, i could actually give two shits about how real or not luna is. i might've even met her. who knows? but when confronted with first-hand experiences of her dicking over people that i do know are for real, it's hard to keep totally quiet.

i don't mean to add to the cruelty pig-pile, to disparage her baselessly, or whatever the accusations are -- but i don't think that announcing there's something that seems, err, very fishy qualifies as either cruel or baseless at all.

remy bean, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, the fact that Tep hasn't posted here for six months is proof of what, exactly? That he was heart-broken and ashamed? Or that his feelings at the time don't matter anymore because Luna is still a regular poster and he isn't?

Laurel, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't speak for Tep, but he hasn't posted here in, what, 6 months?

-- aldo, Monday, October 15, 2007 9:09 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

he under the GROUND, son

Miners Welfare, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Alright, I just got a webmail clearing up one or two things. I am not getting involved in the Luna thing anymore. I feel that though chaki feels he is doing the right thing he is acting in a particularly snotty manner. There was no need to dredge up a part of Misery's history (that she has faced and put behind her both on ILX and in her real life) and that is completely unrelated to what's happening here. That was a completely assholish thing to do Chaki. There's warning and there's being a dick. You are currently being a dick. Your point has been made so calm the fuck down with the hounding please.

Now, none of those guys is my personal problem, thank goodness. But I'm uncomfortable with the idea that there's someone who picks up on people who are feeling vulnerable/susceptible, based on their personal posts on ILX, and uses these boards as a stalking ground.

See my previous paragraph!

when confronted with first-hand experiences of her dicking over people that i do know are for real, it's hard to keep totally quiet.

Fair enough.

i don't mean to add to the cruelty pig-pile, to disparage her baselessly, or whatever the accusations are -- but i don't think that announcing there's something that seems, err, very fishy qualifies as either cruel or baseless at all.

But why the personal attacks on someone defending her? You could have webmailed or explained properly. Instead people just started piling on and no one outside of your little circle knew wtf was going on!

kv_nol, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

People have been piling on Chaki since the beginning and no one was freaking out and leaving threads over THAT.

Laurel, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link


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