Michelle Williams vs Carey Mulligan

Even Rosamund Pike is *yawn*

well, you have bad taste

And you have arrogance.

win-win?

Score one, mod.

history mayne OTM

had no idea ppl disliked CM so much!

too twee. i'm not super into girls who look like small boys. i've only seen her in lame movies and she wasn't good in them. can see where the hate comes from. although personally cgaf.

'an education' was great, but prob not pretty and boring enough for ppl who think douglas sirk films set the high water mark for cinema.

On no, actually An Education was plenty boring enough.

Don't people hate Carey for the same reason they dislike Zooey Deschanel: wide-eyed doll-like ingenues that "sensitive" dudes fawn over?

like MW's dead babydaddy

Wait, WHAT?!

surprise, you have a babydaddy (he dead tho)

You are NOT the dead babydaddy.

It came as one helluva shock to me, let me tell you

An Education is so boring it could only have been directed by a man.

Boring enough for a man, made for a woman.

i have never seen a carey mulligan movie but has she been in something as horrible as Deception? (michelle looked vv pretty tho)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgFQekrVIE

CM was cute in 'An Education' (and Pike wasn't dull!) but she's no Michelle Williams.

Man, I know it's middlebrow and all, but I found An Education pretty gripping.

I don't mind middlebrow -- I mind middlemuddled.

I mind boring.

you guys are silly

Sillier than a movie that posits Skarsgaaaaaaaard (with that accent!) and Mulligan as a couple? Sillier than those scenes with her bickering parents?

I'd mind less if I didn't read a positive review which didn't praise the movie in the same terms over and over ("The debut of the next Audrey Hepburn"! "Quirky!" "British!" "It has Oscar written all over it!"). I'm sure I didn't read them all.

Cracks > An Education, as far as movies about the debasement of upper class British dolls goes.

Sillier than a movie that posits Skarsgaaaaaaaard (with that accent!) and Mulligan as a couple?

You don't buy that Jenny would fall for a sophisticated handsome older guy or that he's enough of a cad to take advantage of her?

Granted, Molina is kind of a cartoon.

Don't people hate Carey for the same reason they dislike Zooey Deschanel: wide-eyed doll-like ingenues that "sensitive" dudes fawn over?

― *ter jacket (jaymc), Friday, September 9, 2011 4:30 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

there's probably some crossover there but it feels different to me since CM hasn't taken any unpleasant stabs at being a singer or comic actress yet

I feel like they provoke the same kind of "you guys" eye-rolling from women.

Deschanel's an okay actress who comes off worse because most of her roles are written as male-indie fantasies by and for men.

Which must be why I don't hate her...

to whatever extent i've even heard of anyone discuss CM it seems like she's well liked by women, although she seems like one of those """"famous"""" types who gets an Oscar nod and a bunch of roles in movies that weren't necessarily big hits before people in America really have any idea who she is and is still in the middle of that process

Love Michelle. Loathe Carey.

― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Friday, September 9, 2011 5:13 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

Zooey at least seems like she has some personality (for better or worse), instead of being a vacant pursed mouth porcelain doll

yeah noone will ever want to drown Mulligan

I don't usually loathe celebrities until they do something egregious or have annoying voices or something. CM is at the very distant periphery of my consciousness (until someone mentioned 'An Ed' I wouldn't have put her together with the person mentioned wrt laBeouf) and that's all I know her from; a cute film that I barely remember. She's cute. We'll see if that turns into anything.

Don't people hate Carey for the same reason they dislike Zooey Deschanel: wide-eyed doll-like ingenues that "sensitive" dudes fawn over?

― *ter jacket (jaymc), Friday, September 9, 2011 9:30 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark

CM in her movies isn't an ingenue exactly (she's a gamine, if that's a noun), have no idea what her 'star brand' is, but it's not like zoey's whatever it is. zo-zo's is pretty toxic at this point.

h8 sensitive dudes tho

Gamine is a noun not an adjective.

I haven't followed Zooey enough to see the toxicity. I'm awfully sensitive but I'm kinda lazy.

gamine can be an adjective

anyway, CM's brand probably more towards zoey's 'your highness'* co-star nathalie portman: small, short-haired fine-featured ladies who do the acting

*a truly toxic film

Can't remember being impressed by Michelle Williams in anything, Carey Mulligan is always pretty good but has pretty much only been in dire movies.

Brokeback Mountain
Synecdoche...
Wendy and Lucy
Blue Valentine

i liked carey mulligan when i first saw her in the Bleak House miniseries, in fact i am annoyed to realize that she doesn't somehow permanently exist in victorian london.

Oh, I thought she was awful in Brokeback Mountain. x-post

speaking of zooey being toxic was there ever a thread for "our idiot brother"? her wide-eyed loveliness was really grating in that film

This reminds me that I still want to see 'Blue Valentine'.

DICK

What should she do, squint?

xpost

directed by sarah polley!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckNV55kpsDw

I have never seen any films with Carey Mulligan in.

I find Williams performances powerful but a bit offputtingly flopsweaty - which makes her well cast in Fabelmans. Mulligan has some kind of blank screen non-charisma that for whatever reason doesn’t work for me. She’s fun in Blink.

I'd have to look at them side-by-side to explain why, but I found her different here than in Wendy and Lucy or Certain Women. I like Kelly Reichardt's contemporary films so much more than the two set in the 1800s.

A Promising Young Woman is on Netflix, so I finally caught up with that. Definitely not a good movie--didactic, and so far-fetched--but it did hold my interest just for being so weird.

Am surprised I was so out-of-the-gate in my dislike of CM itt. I was under the mistaken impression I came by that arrival gradually

What is “flopsweaty”??
Michelle Williams by a mile and also she did a great job reading Britney’s book. It was like a single chapter before I accepted the voice as Britney’s.

I find CM very cold and therefore much less interesting to me.

xp I guess I kind of liked her in Inside Lleywn Davis ... playing someone incredibly unlikeable

Definitely not a good movie--didactic, and so far-fetched--but it did hold my interest just for being so weird.

I found it kind of entrancing, despite its flaws, which is why Saltburn was so disappointing to me: It was boring!

I liked Mulligan in Wildlife but otherwise find her unbelievable.

I had to look Mulligan up. She was in Pride and Prejudice? I guess I remember her in that.