JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

is it a japanese reissue?

Transition
Infinity

Never heard either of these and tend to get the posthumous muddled but is Infinity the one with the overdubbed strings or something?

Transition is amazing, one of the better quartet dates, nearly as intense as Sun Ship.

For those on the fence about the Impulse Vol. 5 set, the 2CD Live In Seattle and the monstrous(ly brilliant) 4CD Live In Japan are essential, and aren't as well served by the original LP formations as some of the other Impulse dates are.

so so expensive

I saw a few copies of The Classic Quartet: Complete Impulse! Studio Recordings at Rasputin for around $40. Also on Amazon. I think from 1998, should sound fine.

not heard the 4cd live in japan i dont think. I have olatunji on cd

no cds in mail today :(

btw who is volunteering to run the pre-1945 Jazz Tracks poll?
EZ Snappin it was your idea so you want to run it?

Why does it have to be pre-1945 jazz tracks? Couldn't we just a have a greatest jazz tracks of all time poll?

then 1945 would get shafted as everyone votes for post 45 stuff? the reason the pre 45 tracks poll was mooted was because it wasn't an album era so was losing out in an albums poll.

But if you want to run an all-time tracks poll go for it.

I'm not going to be able to run anything for a few months, but if people want to wait and abide by whatever arcane rules I come up with then I could do it eventually. It would be pre-45 tracks only.

IMO having a tracks poll would make sure pre-1945 stuff gets its due. It was obviously shafted here because there weren't albums then, but why would it get shafted in a tracks poll?

Because we're all younger than 70.

With every other genre poll there's been one for albums and one for tracks. It'd be sad if with this one there'd be no "greatest tracks of all time" poll.

Because we're all younger than 70.

What does that have to do with anything? I could easily name 20 or 30 pre-1945 tracks I could vote for in an all-time tracks poll.

Your experience and ability is not universal, Tuomas! Jesus!

Yeah, but any ILX poll will obviously reflect the taste of the people who post here, which is not universal. Why should we limit a tracks poll because of that?

feeling such love for Tuomas and his arguing ways right now

state your case big man, do the thing

jazz rock will maybe dominate, tuomas. All that miles & herbie and maybe spiritual hat jazz that will annoy deej

so yeah you might have a point..

i'm listening to 'karma' for the first time....

mind = blown

A common reaction

i just did all my laundry and hung it up then sat down with it playing with the sun streaming in through the windows and fuck me it feels truly spiritual

That is so wonderful.

Thread creator had a master plan

Because we're all younger than 70.

― Halal Spaceboy

xpost: i get this argument from people at work that know absolutely nothing about music from before they were born. it's as if they believe the world was waiting for them to be born before good music could be made. i don't get it and i guess they just don't care

Rock Hardy does not care about old jazz people.

I don't think William meant it like that, but it's pretty fair to say that most people don't know the pre 45 jazz as well as the post 45. And one of the reasons for that is because you don't really hear that stuff now unless you listen to radio for people over 70! Or you were one of those over 70s who were around when that music was the music everyone listened to.

The whole point of the proposed pre-45 tracks poll is because jazz was about tracks back then, and those of us who know little will check out youtubes and spotify's of nominated tracks ,the same way everyone did with the 50s poll, and learn about it and vote.
If you do an alltime poll then that probably wont happen so much and everyone will just vote for tracks off the albums that made this album poll.

That is why I think ez snappin's suggestion is better than the one Tuomas has asked for.

So does ez snappin do a pre-45 tracks poll or tuomas do an all-time tracks poll?

Because we're all younger than 70.

What does that have to do with anything? I could easily name 20 or 30 pre-1945 tracks I could vote for in an all-time tracks poll.

― Tuomas, Sunday, 11 September 2011 00:47 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Your experience and ability is not universal, Tuomas! Jesus!

― Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Sunday, 11 September 2011 00:48 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i wish i knew ANYTHING about pre-45 but i'm not sure i could name 10 records let alone pick out some to vote for.

this weekend i bought:

shorter's schizophrenia (whoa)
green's street of dreams (bobby i could kiss you)

and it didn't place but i've been meaning to get it for a while, duke's the afro-euroasian ecplise which, if you are currently jamming to money jungle because of this thread, you'll also love.

need to check that one out

It's almost as good as The Far East Suite. Also, Latin American Suite is a motherfucker.

oh cool, i will need to check it out then!

was thinking some more about the 60s jazz audience this morning and wondering if there was a modern parallel to the cultural space that jazz occupied during that time - "serious" music, audience of primarily college kids and middle class "intellectuals", paid lots of lip service by mainstream media, perceived as "cutting edge" and then thought... oh duh, indie rock

big bands:dancing::bebop:chinstroking:::"rock and roll":dancing::indie rock:shoegazing

exactly

vulcan mind-meld

that one music appreciation course I took where the prof said "jazz just turned from a dance music to a chamber music" snapped so much into sharp focus for me -- that progression has been repeating for centuries

A while ago I started a thread where I tried to formulate that sort of change in musical genres, but it wasn't very popular:

Major musical changes and the body/brain dichotomy.

not enough of an attention-getting thread title, should've gone with IS INDIE ROCK THE NEW JAZZ???!?!!! lol

also not getting enough attention maybe because the poll ended a while ago.

i prefer shakeys title and think he should start that thread

It's gonna take me a few more weeks to absorb everything. One that stood out was Donald Byrd's A New Perspective. The choir works surprisingly well, something you don't often hear on a jazz album.

Shakey Mo reckons INDIE IS THE NEW JAZZ - What current music will be the big cultural signifier of this time?

One that stood out was Donald Byrd's A New Perspective

YESSSS I am super-stan for this album

I don't think I've heard that Donald Byrd. Choir? Really? Nice.

jazz choir? just as loathsome as jazz harp.

jk, i like that record. amazing cover photo too.

yeah the cover's how I found out about it to begin with

er rather the Tone Loc "homage" to it

glad to see love for that album.

The choir works surprisingly well, something you don't often hear on a jazz album.

On a similar note, the string quartet on the Andrew Hill Mosaic Select set works insanely well. I wouldn't expect any less from Hill, but it's really incredible how the strings are worked into the arrangements.