Jarvis loves "Pop", not the same thing as pop music
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:13 (twelve years ago) link
that Antony album is pretty short and sweet tbf
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't know before reading this thread that Antony & The Johnsons is an UK act! Somehow they've always sounded like they were from New York to me.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:16 (twelve years ago) link
in honesty my favourite of these - certainly most listened - is (disc 2 of) New Forms.
But I like the Primal Scream, M People, Portishead, Pulp, Ms Dynamite, Dizzee Rascal, xx and PJ Harvey albums as well.
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
they're called the suburbs
― post, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's a kind of Jimi Hendrix thing with Antony.
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
But yeah, they're okay. It's just that as Nina Simone fan I've never been able to deal with how much the singer tries to sound like her.
(xxx-post)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
xp Antony was born in the UK though based in the US at the time - there was a minor fuss at the time about his eligibility.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
but the irony is their music is actually about small town life
― post, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
1992: Primal Scream - ScreamadelicaVoting for Screamadelica now is like admitting defeat, bit like buying Beatles albums because you can't think of anything else you want.
1993: Suede - SuedeNothing that makes Brett Anderson happy should be allowed, anywhere.
1994: M People - Elegant SlummingNot down with the positive revisionism on this one, would probably be more open to it if it didn't have Heather Small's voice on them. But it beat His & Hers, and that at least annoyed Mark Radcliffe.
1995: Portishead - DummyA++++ classic for all time.
1996: Pulp - Different ClassLike it, don't love it, bar a few tracks.
1997: Roni Size / Reprazent - New FormsAfter living in a student halls of residence when this was huge, I honestly never want to hear it ever again.
1998: Gomez - Bring It OnHahahahaha you clowns.
1999: Talvin Singh - OKSee Gomez.
2000: Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour Of BewilderbeastSecretly like some of this, blame it being on a lot over the right summer in the right place.
2001: P J Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The SeaActually in danger of becoming underrated. I like this more than To Bring You My Love. Not the best PJ Harvey record in this poll, let alone overall.
2002: Ms. Dynamite - A Little DeeperTerrific, not the best here.
2003: Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da CornerTerrific, not *quite* the best here.
2004: Franz Ferdinand - Franz FerdinandIt's a really good job the Divine Comedy were never eligible to win.
2005: Antony and the Johnsons - I Am A Bird NowSee previous post.
2006: Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm NotLol.
2007: The Klaxons - Myths Of The Near FutureSeriously lol.
2008: Elbow - The Seldom Seen KidDon't care.
2009: Speech Debelle - Speech TherapyWho gives a shit.
2010: the xx - XXDULLDULLDULL.
2011: PJ Harvey - Let England ShakeAmazing.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ mostly brilliant and correct
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:19 (twelve years ago) link
all the winners of the mercury prize are confessional albums about small town life, the fact that the winners represent a broad sphere of british life just goes to show how many different towns in Britain there actually are
― post, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link
Matt that Primal Scream precis shd be stickered on all future copies of Screamadelica
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link
What's wrong with Heather Small's voice?!
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:21 (twelve years ago) link
She had a TV show over here where she read out the names of anybody convicted of shoplifting during the last week, it put a lot of people off her Tuomas.
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link
Tho u haven't lived until u've heard "Terry Ganton, 25, 6 months conditional discharge" to the tune of "Sight for Sore Eyes".
Those were extra verses of "What have you done today to make you feel proud" though.
xpost TIMING!
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link
Ah, okay. No need to put down her previous work because of that, though! I mean, Thriller is still a great album even if you don't approve of Micheal Jackson's caviar smuggling ring.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:25 (twelve years ago) link
(xx-post)
We don't like it, so there
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link
You're the Queen?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link
At one point Heather actually got paid by Woolworths to search for the Aero inside your coat iirc
― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:28 (twelve years ago) link
Heather Small's voice obviously isn't as bad as say, the gargly bloke from Gomez, but everything else on that album is so obviously inept that it's barely a talking point, whereas I usually love euphoric early 90s diva house so the voice getting in the way becomes twice as annoying.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:29 (twelve years ago) link
The word "foghorn" comes to mind, not as strongly as when listening to Florence + the Machine but...
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, September 8, 2011
This doens't tell the whole story, think you are being kind of disingenuous here, Payne Stewart out of the arctic monkeys was also on that show and I don't recall him getting the same levels of criticism
― post, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:31 (twelve years ago) link
Wait, I don't get it? You hate her voice because everything else on the album is worse than it? What?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:32 (twelve years ago) link
She's the Dorothy Squires of "euphoric early 90s diva house", that's a reference you should have no trouble with I am sure, Tuomas
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:33 (twelve years ago) link
No I mean the exact opposite. I was talking about the Gomez album where everything else is as bad as the voice.
Also, anyone repping for the XX album please remember that this is David Cameron's sex music.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:33 (twelve years ago) link
1992: Primal Scream - ScreamadelicaVoted this one cos I've been listening to it again. By no means the monster of a record it was made out to be and the second side has one too many sandbags. Still, as a Weatherall advocate, I have to give it its dues.
1993: Suede - SuedeNot heard the whole thing. I quite like the singles off of it. I always feel as though I have to check over my shoulder with one hand hovering over ALT-TAB button when I listen to these guys.
1994: M People - Elegant SlummingA bit smooth and adult for me - makes me think of people trying out sofas in DFS. At least it's not the Lighthouse Family. I liked "Don't Look any Further" when it came out - sounded like the Sanatogen advert - but didn't realise it was a cover for a long time. "One Night In Heaven" and "Moving On Up" are more refreshing and upbeat than I remember them.
1995: Portishead - DummyI actually owned this at the time. This and The Bends were my teenage misery soundtracks, so I've never gone back to Dummy at all.
1996: Pulp - Different ClassHave never actually listened to this all the way through - Pulp are a one-song-at-a-time band for me. A true singles band.
1997: Roni Size / Reprazent - New FormsCoffeetable Jungle. Apart from one or two tracks I always despised this for putting an acceptable face on drum'n'bass. Polishing up all the ruff edges and adding jazz-wank live instrumentation just goes against my values, basically.
1998: Gomez - Bring It OnMeh, I only heard a couple of songs off it. It was okay I guess. Pretty unremarkable students-go-blues.
1999: Talvin Singh - OKNot heard it. I'm sure it's "OK", woo-hoop!
2000: Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour Of BewilderbeastA load of fucking bullshit.
2001: P J Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The SeaAlready expressed my feelings about PJ. Trying to rectify it through increased exposure.
2002: Ms. Dynamite - A Little DeeperI like everything I've heard, but not check this yet.
2003: Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner2003 was a weird year for me when I pretty much missed out on any new music. As such I'm ashamed to say I haven't heard this.
2004: Franz Ferdinand - Franz FerdinandNot my cup o'cha.
2005: Antony and the Johnsons - I Am A Bird NowPassable.
2006: Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm NotArctic Shitkeys
2007: The Klaxons - Myths Of The Near FutureThe Cacksons more like
2008: Elbow - The Seldom Seen KidZzzzz.....
2009: Speech Debelle - Speech TherapyMe neither..
2010: the xx - XXCold cold music. Never quite got into this.
2011: PJ Harvey - Let England ShakeSee 2001.
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:40 (twelve years ago) link
i think if Roni Size wanted to make a coffee table d'n'b album he was well within his rights but as Tim F sorta points out above Disc 2 isn't like that at all and when he made Disc 1 the live instrumentation and songs and shininess was new and fun and fitted right in iirc
― the Dorothy Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:43 (twelve years ago) link
i like the ones i haven't heard more than the ones i have heard, from that list
― post, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:43 (twelve years ago) link
some of the ones you haven't heard are terrible ffs, get a clue
― the Dorothy Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:44 (twelve years ago) link
you should hear the ones i have heard
― post, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link
you will always be wrong
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link
new forms is a great record
do you hate shanks & bigfoot for doing the same thing to garage?
― Crackle Box, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:48 (twelve years ago) link
all music ever shd be ruff and shouty and sound like it was recorded in that railway carriage out of I Didn't Know You Cared by feral, fingerless tweens
― the Dorothy Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:49 (twelve years ago) link
the live instrumentation and songs and shininess was new and fun
flat, repetitive and lacking in momentum, you mean? I hear very little fun on this record. TBF the first two tracks are good enough - i liked high potent too.
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:50 (twelve years ago) link
fecking repetitive dance music
― the Dorothy Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:50 (twelve years ago) link
all music ever shd be ruff and shouty and sound like it was recorded in that railway carriage out of I Didn't Know You Cared by feral, fingerless tweens― the Dorothy Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:49 (19 seconds ago) Bookmark
― the Dorothy Squires of mean-spirited moaning and cynicism (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:49 (19 seconds ago) Bookmark
Now yer talking.
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:51 (twelve years ago) link
hey, i was fifteen when new forms came out - you were lucky to even know what a coffeetable was back then.
Let's be really real, New Forms is way less coffee table than nearly every other drum & bass artist album released between 1995 and 1997.
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:59 (twelve years ago) link
ach, I'm being facetious, obviously. this is all based on recollection at the time. i wasn't hugely into drum'n'bass at the time, but i do remember hearing new forms and feeling as though it was bleached of all the things i did like about the genre.
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:03 (twelve years ago) link
Tim OTM. The beats were great on that record, especially compared to what Bukem or Alex Reece were doing.
I never gave a shit about "coffee table". I remember d'n'b purists getting irate over Everything But the Girl's Walking Wounded and it just seemed pissy and irrelevant to me. Just the usual dance scene politics.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:07 (twelve years ago) link
Just remembered how much I love the Bahamadia track on New Forms.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link
"Walking Wounded" is awesome btw.
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link
Why does the concept of "jazz wank" or "noodling" etc have so much prominence in British music conversations. It's such a loaded slur, British people love ridiculing complexity.
― LocalGarda, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link
Did you ever hear the Reprazent remix of "New Forms" (the Bahamadia track) DL?
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
coffeetable was a good thing in my book. that kruder and dorfmeister dj kicks was my favourite cd around this time
― Crackle Box, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
PROG
xpost
― Crackle Box, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:14 (twelve years ago) link
K&D Sessions and K&D DJ Kicks definitely coffeetable, and maybe the pinnacle of the form.
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:15 (twelve years ago) link