20 Years of the Mercury Prize - Winners Poll

god pulp really are the fucking worst band ever though. i literally want to punch jarvis DICKHEAD cocker in the face

so otm

mum emailed me to tell me "dj harvey that dj you and your father like won the mercury music prize" haha

i gots no problem with people repping for pedestrian indie as long as they don't mind a little banter in return

if that's where you're setting the bar i'm not sure what in the way of indie wouldn't fall under it.

indie music is just the worst.

Yeah, that King Creosote, for one

it's just rubbish innit? just blokes meowling in stupid accents about how the quality of the rain was better in the '60s.

xxxxp preferred him when he played for AFC Wimbledon.

Who? Glenn Mulcaire?

and don't get me started on the grebos...

Was MC Harvey, not DJ Harvey, sorry.

and don't get me started on gomez. i would like to PUNCH all of them in the DICK extremely HARD

with my FIST

DICK...HARD...FIST...

o_O

Its no good taking the piss out of Michael Jackson when your legacy is a load of landfill brit-pop shite and a decades worth of Peel session debris. Pulp were truly dreadful, just pumped up chancers who got lucky. The fifth form doggerel of JC on Common People is the apex of absolute shiteness.

otmfm. had an argument in the pub about that last night - everyone lionises cocker for that dickhead stunt but it's like, c'mon son stack MJ's music up against JC's and there's only one possible winner, and it's not the man peddling trite ~social commentary~ that only seems smart cuz it was concurrent with fucking neanderthals like oasis

god franz ferdinand are a bunch of CUNTS aren't they? they deserve to get KICKED in the HEAD very HARD by FEET

SO HARD... literally!

ehhh -- MJ rules but the spectacle of wiry uncertain Cocker destroying Jackson's well-choreographed display of kitch was great television.

"wiry, uncertain" = ripped to the tits on coke

nb nowt wrong with being ripped to the tits on coke but let's not buy this "David vs Super-Goliath" version eh?

cos it was much more like "hype toddler shows off in front of mates" imo

OTM, still MJ deserved it, no matter how good he was

i often think that if MJ had beaten the crap out of him there and then his career wd have never dipped

He's a lover, not a fighter

and really "oddball reclusive black guy pretends to be Jesus in concert performance" is much more subversive and funny than "aging student doesn't like pop music"

tbh give me a pop star throwing jesus poses any day over a pop star trying cluelessly to be an Important Social Commentator

What's that Oasis song again, Heal The World?

though i guess MJ was trying to be both, lol

tbh give me a pop star throwing jesus poses any day over a pop star trying cluelessly to be an Important Social Commentator

Isn't that what Jacko was doing tho? Albeit in messianic megalomaniac mode?

oops (xp)

and really "oddball reclusive black guy pretends to be Jesus in concert performance" is much more subversive and funny

Maybe, if it actually had been subversive or funny

rephrase: if you're a pop star trying to be an Important Social Commentator, you damn well better accompany it with some jesus poses

Thing is, JCock was 'hero' to many for that stunt for years, but after MJackson died, the whole thing seems, um, I dunno, churlish?

Enjoying doglatin’s finessed irony here. Where’s ex-ILMer and “Toploder” fan Andy Paltridge when you need him?

xxpost jesus was famous for his flappy flappy arse wave

Romans didn't like that shit AT ALL

From Wikipedia

Pulp (band)

History (1978 - 2011):

Jarvis Cockhead spent 30 years striking ridiculous poses round the common room wearing the same knock-off Che t-shirt and quoting The Communist Manifesto at anyone who would bother listening to him. Then one day he decided to punch Michael Jackson. Then he grew a beard. Jarvis Cocker is gay.

jesus poses > important social commentary >>>>>>>> ~self-important lex commentary~

Different Class? Shitferent Class you mean...

xp It wasn't Jarvis v pop (which he loves) or Jarvis v Michael Jackson's back catalogue, it was Jarvis v creepy, messianic hubris. Not his finest hour by any means but balls to pro-Earth Song revisionism.

Still a prick after all these years, DL, I see.

Glad you got that off your chest.

It's amazing what you can do with duct tape and Onken strawberry mousse.

OMG I understood that.

Elegant Slumming, easily. Most of the other stuff I've heard is either bland (Portishead, Roni Size, Talving Singh), irritating (Dizzee, Pulp, Primal Scream) or shite. The Ms. Dynamite album has few good tunes, but it's wildly uneven.

I think it might actually be Let England Shake. Umming and aahing between that and Dummy. Boy In Da Corner would be in there but for the weak section in the middle - I never want to listen to it all the way through.

2009: Speech Debelle - Speech Therapy

BLESS YOU

This is positive contrarianism gone mad though.

Antony And The Johnsons winning was a bit of a treasured moment for me because Conor McNicholas's stuttering incredulity was such a picture. Loved that record at the time, find a whole hour's worth of Antony's voice a bit hard going and treacly now. Also it broke up several years of haircut indie domination.

Jarvis loves "Pop", not the same thing as pop music

that Antony album is pretty short and sweet tbf

I didn't know before reading this thread that Antony & The Johnsons is an UK act! Somehow they've always sounded like they were from New York to me.

in honesty my favourite of these - certainly most listened - is (disc 2 of) New Forms.

But I like the Primal Scream, M People, Portishead, Pulp, Ms Dynamite, Dizzee Rascal, xx and PJ Harvey albums as well.