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i'd say let this one play xp

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

spill it, lamp

the whole 'i could never spend ten bucks on a literary magazine, let me regurgitate out of context quotes for lols, refusal to engage w/ideas' thing is just p dispiriting

i mean i guess its a p dumm article w/e who cares just seemed sad atm

Lamp, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

fully support n+1 btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

the whole 'i could never spend ten bucks on a literary magazine, let me regurgitate out of context quotes for lols, refusal to engage w/ideas' thing is just p dispiriting

because there's nothing really to engage with? nitsuh already said it. it's 5,000 words of recieved wisdom thats basically stuff that every person on this thread knows about already. Its like a book report.

but i bet a decent gossip-y 'oral history' style magazine feature abt tha fork wld get 'mad page views'

― Lamp, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 11:49 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that is true

all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

hee hee:

no genre’s fans are more vulnerable to music criticism than the educated, culturally anxious young people who pay close attention to indie rock.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

if indie rock fans are so educated, how do you explain Foster The People

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

no-one in the world actually likes Foster the People

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^^

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

also: zombies

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

if there was an apparently untapped market for a feature on the history of THE NATIONAL to be grantland's big coming out piece (and unless i'm mistaken still the only thing that's been on grantland that couldn't have appeared on page 2 or vulture)(besides the ongoing legitimization of carles) i promise you there's a market for a history/behind the scenes of pfork, esp since there is apparently a huge market for regular hack thinkpieces on 'pfork: what does it all mean?'.

balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

It means we avoid the phrase "think pieces."

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm not gonna dignify these things by pretending they're essays.

balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

will compromise w/ 'things that make you go hmm'.

balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

is the moon in Scorpio or some shit everybody seems megapissy on like every thread today

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

nb there's a 99% chance it's just me for not sleeping

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

you haven't seen the latest posts on the "are you a hipster?" thread yet, have you

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

is the moon in Scorpio

two months to go!

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Paying close attention to "indie rock" is so 1992. I read Pitchfork as much as any music lover (once a week if I'm lucky) and I just don't know anyone who does this. With 9/11 and the U.S. involved in two wars I think people have different priorities.

Where Does My Pictures Go? (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

9/11 made me prioritize grime

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

xpost -- Most people in general aren't paying attention to 9/11 (except now as an anniversary-related news item) or said two wars either.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

Never forget.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

No, but I'm sure 9/11 and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan altered people's news consumption habits greatly, and those habits sink in. Most people I know on Facebook, for example, spend more time with newspapers and opinion pieces.

It's not that I hate Pitchfork or find it dull, it's that I use it more as a consumer than as someone who consumes music opinion in and of itself.

At Tax Masters, We Help Solve Your Tax Problems! (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 22:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think it's an ongoing habit of a lot of people to look at things like pop music, and pop music press/criticism, and have this furious epiphany that it, let's say, "merely supports an existing consumer culture" -- as opposed, I guess, to being a bold, radical, revolutionary critique -- which to me is the biggest, strangest DUH thing in the universe. It's called POPULAR music! It exists in a space that's sort of between being a entertainment product and being fine art! This is a lot of what makes it great and interesting and gives it the potential to be really fascinating! What's maybe been harder for people to wrap their heads around is the idea that pop writing exists in a similar space between, you know, consumer/entertainment reporting and really seriously committed criticism. (And the market is mostly for the former of those two things.)

ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 23:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

wait was mount cleaners serious? i thought that was a john maus joke above.

balls, Thursday, 8 September 2011 00:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

Most people I know on Facebook, for example, spend more time with newspapers and opinion pieces.

this is called "growing up", yo.

Tim F, Thursday, 8 September 2011 01:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

Who the hell is John Maus?

You Suck Dr McCloud's Dick For a Living (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 8 September 2011 01:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

a meme from a little while back

markers, Thursday, 8 September 2011 02:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

you missed this one, Whiney:

The truth is that I inherited expensive tastes and moved to an expensive city, and sometimes I get cranky about not being able to buy what I want. But when I don't feel like reminding myself of these things, I can listen to indie music.

i bought the n+1 issue for the juggalo article, as well as to see if there were any letters printed about the evils of the ipod article from the previous issue.

sarahel, Thursday, 8 September 2011 08:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

still can't browse old reviews. I'll keep checking back periodically til they stop getting that wrong.

― he's the deej, i'm the hipster (kkvgz), Monday, August 29, 2011 11:29 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

By the way, there isn't some blindingly obvious way to do this, is there? I've asked before and received no response.

kkvgz, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

go to reviews and start clicking back through the pages. here's 1999:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/601/

call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm more interested in the good old days when you could browse alphabetically.

kkvgz, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Although that is pretty cool.

kkvgz, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ha! I rather like this, CAD! If you enter in random page numbers to the URL, you come up with all kinds of weird historical contextualizing music knowledge. El-P's Fantastic Damage was reviewed in the same week as Silkworm's Italian Platinum. Sparta's Wiretap Scars and Sleater-Kinney's OneBeat. It sort of has the effect of going back in time to record store visits of yore and looking at the employee picks.

kkvgz, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's actually pretty fun

call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Just ... while we're on the topic, did anyone read Beck's n+1 piece about rap and Losing My Cool? That one's all online, and has the same odd quality of reading really well, sounding incisive and authoritative, and then having these massive bizarre gaps and wrongnesses in thinking.

ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol u guys read pitchfork

H3LP, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

h3lp us, we read pitchfork

call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

POST THIS THING ONLINE, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE

INTERNET_GANGSTA

wolves lacan, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

N can you link that?

D-40, Thursday, 8 September 2011 13:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

looking forward to nabisco stop tip-toeing around beck and just opening fire in indie music critic beef extravaganza 2011

Mordy, Thursday, 8 September 2011 14:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://nplusonemag.com/authors/beck-richard

Richard Beck?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 September 2011 15:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://nplusonemag.com/express-yourself

September 2010 article

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 September 2011 15:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

totally thought this was gonna be Beck (Hansen) :(

you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 September 2011 15:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

Me too... No otm for Nabisco

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 September 2011 16:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

agree w/nabisco's estimation tho, that article is odd

you will always be wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 September 2011 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ha, no "beef," the guy's an amazing writer and really perceptive -- there are just these amazingly huge pitfalls in thinking certain things through, I guess. And those gaps become especially annoying when you happen to be writing in a very high-handed tone. I'm tempted to try and enumerate everything that's incredibly weird about that hip-hop article, but it's probably not that important and anyway, this is the Pitchfork thread.

ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Thursday, 8 September 2011 17:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

For me, not playing Ocarina of Time until now has been the ultimate exercise in abstinence. As a kid, sex takes on the status of myth, written from overheard shards of older sibling chatter, glimpses from late-night Showtime movies, and the burbling of our own adolescent bodies. Until you have it, all you know about sex is that you want it, and once you do, the sky will color over in sublime hues of gold and lavender and the world’s impoverished will dance together on a floor of regenerating sandwiches. Or something. Point is, sex is supposed to be pretty much the best thing ever. Just like Ocarina of Time. So how does the reality fare? This 30-year-old virgin of Hyrule aimed to find out.

I insert the game card, gently, into the slot of my Aqua Blue system. As I walk over to a red chaise lounge the system slips out of my fumbling hands, falling onto the carpet. I flashback to my first kiss, in my parent’s garage—It gets better the more you do it, she told me—and with that in mind, I begin my quest.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2011 18:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

srsly

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 September 2011 18:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

This 30-year-old virgin

obv the pertinent phrase

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Thursday, 8 September 2011 18:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

is that from the Pitchfork Kid A review?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 8 September 2011 18:38 (3 years ago) Permalink


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