pitchfork

man why you gotta break his...stride like that

Like the difference is that there literally hasn't been a story coming out of Pitchfork that's a modicum as interesting as Stephen Glass to make a movie about. I'm sure middle america would be riveted by the harrowing tale of how hipinion got a joanna newsom album three weeks early, and the other time Nasty Little Man got mad at them, and that day they had the word "rape gaze" on their site for five hours. Keep thinking the ppl that went to see Shattered Glass were all New Republic stans though with your hilarious graph that proves literally nothing, balls.

whiney one gets the sense that your conclusions here are rather more strongly rooted in personal antipathy than in sober analysis

i'm sure middle america would be riveted by the harrowing tale of how hipinion got a joanna newsom album three weeks early, and the other time Nasty Little Man got mad at them, and that day they had the word "rape gaze" on their site for five hours. Keep thinking the ppl that went to see Shattered Glass were all New Republic stans though with your hilarious graph that proves literally nothing, balls.

enh ppl like media gossip generally i mean i dont think any1 in 2011 cares abt pitchfork particularly but i bet a decent gossip-y 'oral history' style magazine feature abt tha fork wld get 'mad page views'

i'd say let this one play xp

spill it, lamp

the whole 'i could never spend ten bucks on a literary magazine, let me regurgitate out of context quotes for lols, refusal to engage w/ideas' thing is just p dispiriting

i mean i guess its a p dumm article w/e who cares just seemed sad atm

fully support n+1 btw

the whole 'i could never spend ten bucks on a literary magazine, let me regurgitate out of context quotes for lols, refusal to engage w/ideas' thing is just p dispiriting

because there's nothing really to engage with? nitsuh already said it. it's 5,000 words of recieved wisdom thats basically stuff that every person on this thread knows about already. Its like a book report.

but i bet a decent gossip-y 'oral history' style magazine feature abt tha fork wld get 'mad page views'

― Lamp, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 11:49 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that is true

hee hee:

no genre’s fans are more vulnerable to music criticism than the educated, culturally anxious young people who pay close attention to indie rock.

if indie rock fans are so educated, how do you explain Foster The People

no-one in the world actually likes Foster the People

^^^^

also: zombies

if there was an apparently untapped market for a feature on the history of THE NATIONAL to be grantland's big coming out piece (and unless i'm mistaken still the only thing that's been on grantland that couldn't have appeared on page 2 or vulture)(besides the ongoing legitimization of carles) i promise you there's a market for a history/behind the scenes of pfork, esp since there is apparently a huge market for regular hack thinkpieces on 'pfork: what does it all mean?'.

It means we avoid the phrase "think pieces."

i'm not gonna dignify these things by pretending they're essays.

will compromise w/ 'things that make you go hmm'.

is the moon in Scorpio or some shit everybody seems megapissy on like every thread today

nb there's a 99% chance it's just me for not sleeping

you haven't seen the latest posts on the "are you a hipster?" thread yet, have you

is the moon in Scorpio

two months to go!

Paying close attention to "indie rock" is so 1992. I read Pitchfork as much as any music lover (once a week if I'm lucky) and I just don't know anyone who does this. With 9/11 and the U.S. involved in two wars I think people have different priorities.

9/11 made me prioritize grime

xpost -- Most people in general aren't paying attention to 9/11 (except now as an anniversary-related news item) or said two wars either.

Never forget.

No, but I'm sure 9/11 and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan altered people's news consumption habits greatly, and those habits sink in. Most people I know on Facebook, for example, spend more time with newspapers and opinion pieces.

It's not that I hate Pitchfork or find it dull, it's that I use it more as a consumer than as someone who consumes music opinion in and of itself.

I think it's an ongoing habit of a lot of people to look at things like pop music, and pop music press/criticism, and have this furious epiphany that it, let's say, "merely supports an existing consumer culture" -- as opposed, I guess, to being a bold, radical, revolutionary critique -- which to me is the biggest, strangest DUH thing in the universe. It's called POPULAR music! It exists in a space that's sort of between being a entertainment product and being fine art! This is a lot of what makes it great and interesting and gives it the potential to be really fascinating! What's maybe been harder for people to wrap their heads around is the idea that pop writing exists in a similar space between, you know, consumer/entertainment reporting and really seriously committed criticism. (And the market is mostly for the former of those two things.)

wait was mount cleaners serious? i thought that was a john maus joke above.

Most people I know on Facebook, for example, spend more time with newspapers and opinion pieces.

this is called "growing up", yo.

Who the hell is John Maus?

a meme from a little while back

you missed this one, Whiney:

The truth is that I inherited expensive tastes and moved to an expensive city, and sometimes I get cranky about not being able to buy what I want. But when I don't feel like reminding myself of these things, I can listen to indie music.

i bought the n+1 issue for the juggalo article, as well as to see if there were any letters printed about the evils of the ipod article from the previous issue.

still can't browse old reviews. I'll keep checking back periodically til they stop getting that wrong.

― he's the deej, i'm the hipster (kkvgz), Monday, August 29, 2011 11:29 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

By the way, there isn't some blindingly obvious way to do this, is there? I've asked before and received no response.

go to reviews and start clicking back through the pages. here's 1999:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/601/

I'm more interested in the good old days when you could browse alphabetically.

Although that is pretty cool.

Ha! I rather like this, CAD! If you enter in random page numbers to the URL, you come up with all kinds of weird historical contextualizing music knowledge. El-P's Fantastic Damage was reviewed in the same week as Silkworm's Italian Platinum. Sparta's Wiretap Scars and Sleater-Kinney's OneBeat. It sort of has the effect of going back in time to record store visits of yore and looking at the employee picks.

yeah it's actually pretty fun

Just ... while we're on the topic, did anyone read Beck's n+1 piece about rap and Losing My Cool? That one's all online, and has the same odd quality of reading really well, sounding incisive and authoritative, and then having these massive bizarre gaps and wrongnesses in thinking.

lol u guys read pitchfork

h3lp us, we read pitchfork

POST THIS THING ONLINE, FOR CHRIST'S SAKE

N can you link that?

looking forward to nabisco stop tip-toeing around beck and just opening fire in indie music critic beef extravaganza 2011

http://nplusonemag.com/authors/beck-richard

Richard Beck?

http://nplusonemag.com/express-yourself

September 2010 article

totally thought this was gonna be Beck (Hansen) :(

Me too... No otm for Nabisco

agree w/nabisco's estimation tho, that article is odd

Ha, no "beef," the guy's an amazing writer and really perceptive -- there are just these amazingly huge pitfalls in thinking certain things through, I guess. And those gaps become especially annoying when you happen to be writing in a very high-handed tone. I'm tempted to try and enumerate everything that's incredibly weird about that hip-hop article, but it's probably not that important and anyway, this is the Pitchfork thread.