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you're talking about reading it, i'm taking about "actually gives a dribbling shit about its inner workings and politics" which is reserved for mischpusha, hipinion, ilx and a few people in bands

all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 05:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

if the movie to be made out of new republic gossip and a huge bestselling book (and apparently potential movie) to be made out of espn gossip i guarantee you there's a magazine feature to be made out of pfork gossip, esp since there's apparently mutliple thinkpieces and a potential mumblecore movie to be made out of 'what does pfork signify???'.

balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 06:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

guh typos galore, going to bed

balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 06:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 06:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 07:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 07:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

let's not forget that scott's charming little freakout on here was reported in the daily swarm and a whole bunch of places, so i'm guessing richard beck just saw that and doesn't, like, regularly lurk here (although he might be reading right now, hi boo!)

all shitley chess club (some dude), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 11:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

So all you have to do is say "I want a PDF of the article" and one will magically appear in your inbox?

*ter jacket (jaymc), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

welcome to web 3.0

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I want a magical pony and candy for the rest of my life. Via PDF.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

FWD: MyLittlePony_Candy_Catalog.pdf

cheerful sound ur (schlump), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Always figured Ned was a secret Brony

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

What the hell is the movie about "New Republic gossip"?

all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

shattered glass

max, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 14:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

could be a could template for Shattered Raff: The Nick Sylvester Story

all shitley chess club (some dude), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, I kept googling because i couldn't possibly think balls was stupid enough to equate a world-famous case of journalistic fraud "New Republic gossip."

all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

man why you gotta break his...stride like that

all shitley chess club (some dude), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like the difference is that there literally hasn't been a story coming out of Pitchfork that's a modicum as interesting as Stephen Glass to make a movie about. I'm sure middle america would be riveted by the harrowing tale of how hipinion got a joanna newsom album three weeks early, and the other time Nasty Little Man got mad at them, and that day they had the word "rape gaze" on their site for five hours. Keep thinking the ppl that went to see Shattered Glass were all New Republic stans though with your hilarious graph that proves literally nothing, balls.

all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

whiney one gets the sense that your conclusions here are rather more strongly rooted in personal antipathy than in sober analysis

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm sure middle america would be riveted by the harrowing tale of how hipinion got a joanna newsom album three weeks early, and the other time Nasty Little Man got mad at them, and that day they had the word "rape gaze" on their site for five hours. Keep thinking the ppl that went to see Shattered Glass were all New Republic stans though with your hilarious graph that proves literally nothing, balls.

enh ppl like media gossip generally i mean i dont think any1 in 2011 cares abt pitchfork particularly but i bet a decent gossip-y 'oral history' style magazine feature abt tha fork wld get 'mad page views'

Lamp, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'd say let this one play xp

k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

spill it, lamp

the whole 'i could never spend ten bucks on a literary magazine, let me regurgitate out of context quotes for lols, refusal to engage w/ideas' thing is just p dispiriting

i mean i guess its a p dumm article w/e who cares just seemed sad atm

Lamp, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

fully support n+1 btw

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

the whole 'i could never spend ten bucks on a literary magazine, let me regurgitate out of context quotes for lols, refusal to engage w/ideas' thing is just p dispiriting

because there's nothing really to engage with? nitsuh already said it. it's 5,000 words of recieved wisdom thats basically stuff that every person on this thread knows about already. Its like a book report.

but i bet a decent gossip-y 'oral history' style magazine feature abt tha fork wld get 'mad page views'

― Lamp, Wednesday, September 7, 2011 11:49 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that is true

all shitley (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

hee hee:

no genre’s fans are more vulnerable to music criticism than the educated, culturally anxious young people who pay close attention to indie rock.

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

if indie rock fans are so educated, how do you explain Foster The People

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

no-one in the world actually likes Foster the People

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^^

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

also: zombies

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

if there was an apparently untapped market for a feature on the history of THE NATIONAL to be grantland's big coming out piece (and unless i'm mistaken still the only thing that's been on grantland that couldn't have appeared on page 2 or vulture)(besides the ongoing legitimization of carles) i promise you there's a market for a history/behind the scenes of pfork, esp since there is apparently a huge market for regular hack thinkpieces on 'pfork: what does it all mean?'.

balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

It means we avoid the phrase "think pieces."

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm not gonna dignify these things by pretending they're essays.

balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

will compromise w/ 'things that make you go hmm'.

balls, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

is the moon in Scorpio or some shit everybody seems megapissy on like every thread today

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

nb there's a 99% chance it's just me for not sleeping

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

you haven't seen the latest posts on the "are you a hipster?" thread yet, have you

Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

is the moon in Scorpio

two months to go!

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Paying close attention to "indie rock" is so 1992. I read Pitchfork as much as any music lover (once a week if I'm lucky) and I just don't know anyone who does this. With 9/11 and the U.S. involved in two wars I think people have different priorities.

Where Does My Pictures Go? (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

9/11 made me prioritize grime

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost -- Most people in general aren't paying attention to 9/11 (except now as an anniversary-related news item) or said two wars either.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Never forget.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 21:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

No, but I'm sure 9/11 and wars in Iraq and Afghanistan altered people's news consumption habits greatly, and those habits sink in. Most people I know on Facebook, for example, spend more time with newspapers and opinion pieces.

It's not that I hate Pitchfork or find it dull, it's that I use it more as a consumer than as someone who consumes music opinion in and of itself.

At Tax Masters, We Help Solve Your Tax Problems! (Mount Cleaners), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think it's an ongoing habit of a lot of people to look at things like pop music, and pop music press/criticism, and have this furious epiphany that it, let's say, "merely supports an existing consumer culture" -- as opposed, I guess, to being a bold, radical, revolutionary critique -- which to me is the biggest, strangest DUH thing in the universe. It's called POPULAR music! It exists in a space that's sort of between being a entertainment product and being fine art! This is a lot of what makes it great and interesting and gives it the potential to be really fascinating! What's maybe been harder for people to wrap their heads around is the idea that pop writing exists in a similar space between, you know, consumer/entertainment reporting and really seriously committed criticism. (And the market is mostly for the former of those two things.)

ንፁህ አበበ (nabisco), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 23:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait was mount cleaners serious? i thought that was a john maus joke above.

balls, Thursday, 8 September 2011 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Most people I know on Facebook, for example, spend more time with newspapers and opinion pieces.

this is called "growing up", yo.

Tim F, Thursday, 8 September 2011 01:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Who the hell is John Maus?

You Suck Dr McCloud's Dick For a Living (Mount Cleaners), Thursday, 8 September 2011 01:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

a meme from a little while back

markers, Thursday, 8 September 2011 02:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

you missed this one, Whiney:

The truth is that I inherited expensive tastes and moved to an expensive city, and sometimes I get cranky about not being able to buy what I want. But when I don't feel like reminding myself of these things, I can listen to indie music.

i bought the n+1 issue for the juggalo article, as well as to see if there were any letters printed about the evils of the ipod article from the previous issue.

sarahel, Thursday, 8 September 2011 08:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

still can't browse old reviews. I'll keep checking back periodically til they stop getting that wrong.

― he's the deej, i'm the hipster (kkvgz), Monday, August 29, 2011 11:29 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark

By the way, there isn't some blindingly obvious way to do this, is there? I've asked before and received no response.

kkvgz, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

go to reviews and start clicking back through the pages. here's 1999:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/601/

call all destroyer, Thursday, 8 September 2011 12:51 (2 years ago) Permalink


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