Wilco - The Whole Love

the last record where that was the point was, like, summer teeth

fuckin autocorrect, summerteeth

as a record filled with hooks either

eh, my complaint with the post jay bennett records is that tweedy seemed to half-write the songs, subtracting the, you know, relatively rewarding choruses that are littered througout being there summerteeth and even yankee hotel foxtrot. for instance: wilco (the album) was a lot like summerteeth but minus all of the sharp songwriting, and this new one seems to regain some of that sharpness, to my ears

don't know why i quoted half of your sentence there markers; it is saturday

this isn't prime wilco (a ghost is born, yankee hotel foxtrot, and summerteeth) good though

― markers, Saturday, September 3, 2011 9:46 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

otm... BUT this is fab Wilco after the last two dire albums. Feel like my Wilco is slowly returning to form! Yay!

I like this a lot, but I liked the last two, too. I guess this is a more overt return to "weird" form who didn't recognize that the lack of weirdness of the last two was sort of weird in and of itself. But, yeah, the band's boutique "weird" pedal is clearly back from the shop.

It doesn't sound obliquely "good because it's weird" to me at all, rather that the band is actually trying again, looking for new ways, treading new paths.. The last two Wilco records were numbingly dull for me, because every notion of experimentation seemed off limits. Whereas I loved the three records before them just because they mixed the known with the unknown, with such surprisingly great results. Maybe I did miss them pushing the "weird" pedal, but it sounds like they are unified and willing to look for new sounds again, instead of making dull americana records like the last two. I've long given up on Wilco making another YHF of 'Ghost', but this is definitely closer to the two than the last two albums they churned out.

sky blue sky tried, and i thought it succeeded. i would have been happy if it ushered in a new era of tuneful west-coast soft-rock. but there were dull spots on it. this seems more confident and swaggering and, yeah, weird.

Honestly, I think those last two were pretty important artistic steps, at least in terms of Tweedy learning how to write a clearer, more straight-forward way, post-Bennett, post-rehab and post nonsense "Ghost" lyrics. Which is why I consider them experimental records, at least in the context of Wilco. They were trying something different, which in their case meant trying something that wasn't trying so hard to be different. I talked to Tweedy once or twice over the past few years about how funny it was that not including 20 minute drones or strange sounds or freakouts was the band's first divisive, controversial move.

Anyway, what really sold it to me was the band live, when none of the stuff from the last two records seemed the least bit boring or out of place.

good, but Tweedy's songwriting still isn't so great since Ghost Is Born, for most of the tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTqEB0MyGdY

Tweedy is such a horrible singer now. He can keep his guitar but just step away from the mic please.

i dunno he seems about the same to me

that song is pretty nice

like the end jam out a lot

owww my earrrs

good point, rip

too bad most of the tracks arent as good as Born Alone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3PRmu0tr6k&feature=player_embedded#!

he was quite funny the 2 times i saw them

Tweedy is such a horrible singer now. He can keep his guitar but just step away from the mic please.

― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 7, 2011 11:44 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Yeah, is it just me or are his vocals weak as fuck on this record? It sounds like his lungs are hooked up to a breathing machine.

This guy has sung like a dead cat since 2002, but now it's metastazized.

I know most of you guys have no idea who is Alceu Valença but I was struck by the similarity between ‘One Sunday Morning (Song for Jane Smiley’s Boyfriend)’ and Valença's'Anunciação'.

By the way, Alceu Valença >>>>>> Wilco

http://www.mixcloud.com/shin-oliva-suzuki/alceu-tweedy/#utm_source=widget&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=flash_links

I'm happily surprised by this--high quality, nice songwriting, not afraid of a little more adventurous production. Much better than anything I've heard since 'Yankee Hotel Foxtrot'. Not as much of a surprise as Portishead's '3' or Flaming Lips' 'Embryonic,' but very good. Loved this band circa 'Being There,' and enjoyed watching their progress over the next two albums. But the "dad rock" dismissal seemed mostly accurate after that--a krautrock jam or two notwithstanding.

As for the similarity between that track and the Alceu--got to imagine that's a coincidence, as the chord progression and arpeggios aren't exactly rocket science in either case. It's a very natural set up and resolution. Gotta say, the production values alone give a major edge to the Wilco approach, there.

The four songs I like on this are really awesome. Absolutely despise the Radioheadishness of the first track and the Wilco: The Musical-sounding "Capitol City." Last song is their "I Dream A Highway" - beautiful. Also, tracks 5-7.

after the first listen i am positively surprised. the experimentalish opener is very promising, the album cannot hold that level (of abstraction) but it is still pretty solid. it could have been shorter though. the last song is nice to fall asleep to. or to wake up to.

listening now. i've always been slightly annoyed when people call wilco the "american radiohead" -- did not seem otm to me -- but uhh this first song does sound quite a bit like radiohead.

sounds ok though!

clien freakout is cool. i guess this is their way of answering people who complained that they haven't let nels wail on record yet.

*cline* i mean

hey homies it's up on npr http://www.npr.org/2011/09/19/140476897/first-listen-wilco-the-whole-love

It's on NPR? That's weird.

r u being sarcastic

:)

\(^o^)/

http://wilcoworld.net/#!/watch-wilcos-live-on-letterman-performance/

THIS IS OUT TODAY

NOW HE KNOOOOOOOOOWS HE WAS WRONG

DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO

Bought it on saturday, really enjoying it!

Picked it up last night at a local record store that had a listening/release party. Sounded good, but I want to hear it in a less noisy context!

this is a good album!

think the only one i kind of hate is capitol city skyline or w/e. sounds like a bad randy newman pastiche.

yeah this is a good record

and one sunday morning is great! pretty into them stretching things out like this, i'd take a four-song album with stuff like this tbh.

Eric Weisbard, quoting Keith Harris:

don't write like the Wilco gush you can find below. To which I add, why has Salon so aggressively pursued terrible music writing after simply ignoring music writing altogether for years and years? This is supposed to be the equal of Andrew O'Hehir and Laura Miller?

About this excerpt:

When Wilco emerged from the ashes of Uncle Tupelo some 17 years ago with the sturdy, catchy roots-rock of "A.M." and "Being There," it would have taken a special imagination to see that Jeff Tweedy would become one of the most daring songwriters of his generation -- and that Wilco would become a vital, adventurous band breaking new stylistic ground with each ambitious and creatively restless album."

i like to think that i have a "special imagination."

is it restless?

i have a special, creatively restless imagination, yes.

i'd take a four-song album with stuff like this tbh.

Search: First Loose Fur LP

yeah, i guess good chinese apple is what that tune reminds me of.

As part of my Jim O'Rourke Unified Theory of Rock Music I posit that the limp albums that followed Ghost were directly a result of Jim' lack of involvement. If you check the credits he played on nearly every track on Ghost and seemed to be a very productive "disturbing" influence on the band (not dissimilar to the role he played with Sonic Youth).

TL;DR Jim O'Rourke come back from Japan and save music.