JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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I hope you like it. Pretty life changing thing for me when I first heard it.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

oh i know these albums well , as i said i had copies for years. It just took me this long to finally own them.

blame bobby gillespie for me liking om. Hearing an interview on radio scotland with him about Om and it playing in the background turned me on to it and i had already got ascension from the library. Wish i could have bought the cds/lps i ordered in to the library as they probably sat in the stores for years and if they haven't been sold off they're prob in a dusty storeroom.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

3 mingus albums in a 2xCD set for £3.93. Bit of a bargain guys

In many people's eyes, Mingus merited the title of genius, his writing for both small and large ensembles being compared to that of Duke Ellington - the ultimate accoloade. His bass playing, honed in the company of major players like Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie was out of the top drawer. On this release we bring together three of Mingus' albums, two of which are regarded as modern jazz classics: 'Mingus Ah Um' and 'The Clown', as well as the relatively neglected 'Pithecanthropus Erectus', which even all these years down the line is worthy of re-appraisal.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 3 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

bought Mwandishi forgot i hadnt bought that (yes another i had a copy off in the 90s from the library so never got round to buying despite having crossings and sextant and all the funky albums from that era).

Ordered a bunch of Coltrane cds cheap from ebay. Spent about £20 in all + the £10 for major worksof Damn that idiot who came up with the idea of a jazz poll.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 3 September 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

I wonder how many ilxor will buy from this poll (assuming he still is interested in jazz)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 3 September 2011 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone who has the blue note covers book how is it?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

just ordered just ordered The Complete Africa / Brass Sessions for £9 on amazon.co.uk im skint now but im sure it's worth it

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 01:53 (twelve years ago) link

Totally worth it for three versions of "Africa", let alone all the other songs (two versions of "Greensleeves", "Song of the Underground Railroad", "Blues Minor - all amazing). Probably my favorite Coltrane studio recordings (The Complete 1961 Village Vanguard Recordings I rank above all else. I love the open interplay of Dolphy & Coltrane and wish they had decades to work together).

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 September 2011 02:03 (twelve years ago) link

those impulse coltrane boxes w/ the original albums are great -- much better imo than listening to the chronological classic quintet box (which is good too, but...). It made me appreciate how those albums were put together -- very nice flow and sequencing for the most part.

& i agree w/ EZ the complete village vanguard is a thing of beauty -- the versions of "spritual" on there are monumental, incomparable. same goes for "india".

tylerw, Sunday, 4 September 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

"Live" At The Village Vanguard was my first Coltrane, and I listened to my dubbed copy so much that I could probably hum the entire record from memory. I'd never heard -- or heard of -- Eric Dolphy before, and his solo on "Spiritual" knocked me for a loop from which I have yet to recover (some 20 years on).

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 4 September 2011 04:25 (twelve years ago) link

I have a great memory of coming to my parents house with two really good college friends, getting extremely high out back and then coming in and listening to the Village Vanguard boxed set for the first time (I had probably just gotten it as a gift). Just thinking about it made me want to put it on -- only have disc 3 for some reason on my itunes. But man, the way they just hit right off with Chasin The Trane. An opener blues could be such a throwaway but the way they play it they're such a force.

Helping 3 (Hurting 2), Sunday, 4 September 2011 04:42 (twelve years ago) link

Really enjoying reading these poll threads even tho I haven't voted in any yet & probably won't...well done everybody!

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 4 September 2011 07:01 (twelve years ago) link

cheers glad you enjoyed it. Did you discover anything new?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

I've never heard this John Coltrane 5 star album http://allmusic.com/album/the-cats-r165664/review
Anyone heard it?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

I heard it back when I used to own the Complete Prestige set. Don't recall it as hugely better than any of the other Prestige works; but then again, I sold the set because I realized I have little use for Coltrane's pre-Atlantic recordings (the Monk works excepted).

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 4 September 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

see that herbie hancock live bootlegs blog link that was posted? Just thought you all might like to know that rapidshare has no limits now. So just wire in
http://neverenoughrhodes.blogspot.com/2008/05/never-enough-live-herbie-hancock.html

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

Although I didn't consider myself well-versed enough in jazz to vote in this poll, a big thanks to all that did since I've been looking to expand my collection and even amongst the top 20 finishers there are several I've never heard. Lots of essential stuff to seek out.

That said, I'm disappointed that the Groove Collective (Spotify link) didn't place....

Lee547 (Lee626), Sunday, 4 September 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

the real question is did anyone buy a spiritual hat because of the poll?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

not yet. but you never know what will happen once i get back into my normal routine.

mark e, Sunday, 4 September 2011 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

the real question is did anyone buy a spiritual hat because of the poll?

I think my halo is sufficient.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 4 September 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

I've never heard this John Coltrane 5 star album http://allmusic.com/album/the-cats-r165664/review
Anyone heard it?

i've got it as part of the side steps prestige box set, i think. probably one of the least essential coltrane-related records ... but! i said it on other threads, but I think that period is worth hearing -- especially the red garland records that trane is on. maybe coltrane at his most relaxed?

tylerw, Sunday, 4 September 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't purchase any new spiritual hats, but i did retrieve some from the closet for future wearing. as it appears, i have a lot of hats.
i also made two non-jazz-listening friends listen to IaSW last night and they liked it.

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Sunday, 4 September 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

and did they wear spiritual hats or feel the urge to go buy any?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

going over this thread and listening to nothing but jazz in the last couple days - I've realized I have very little understanding/conception of the jazz audience of the 60s. I kind of assume jazz reached its commercial/popular peak much earlier (I know Miles' best-selling albums were in the 60s, but the ubiquity of jazz as a dominant style seems undeniable for earlier eras like the 20s-40s than it does for the 60s, what with r'n'r in the picture), but as a genre the general consensus represented here is that the aesthetic/artistic peak was in the late 50s through the 60s. This is when a lot of the essential ingredients of jazz - swing, improvisation, acoustic ensemble playing - became really intensely refined. But exactly how popular was, say, a giant like John Coltrane...? I have no idea. And who bought these records? Middle-class black people, white "intellectuals"...? I can't really see Hank Mobley and Grant Green appealling much to teenagers, the whole Blue Note vibe is one of adult sophistication, for example.

― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier),

my fave post on the thread. Did we ever agree on an answer?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

they had a huge collegiate audience

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

although college then was more exclusive iirc

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

rich & privileged you mean?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

maiden voyage=sailboat jazz obv

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 4 September 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

really digging the Lovin' Spoonful's brand of jazz on the Spotify list

Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Sunday, 4 September 2011 23:19 (twelve years ago) link

huh?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

are they on a soundtrack album by someone?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

ahh blow-up soundtrack

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

one of the herbie's ive not heard. is it any cop?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 5 September 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

sam never did come back to this thread did he? :(

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 5 September 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link

Deej - as someone who just generally observes this shit, i'd like to say that i wish you would vote in more of these polls

Number None, Monday, 5 September 2011 03:31 (twelve years ago) link

never have checked out alice coltrane before. am diggin this mystical ~journey atm

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 5 September 2011 03:49 (twelve years ago) link

:D

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Monday, 5 September 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link

Which one are you listening to? "Journey in Satchidananda"?

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Monday, 5 September 2011 04:57 (twelve years ago) link

Didn’t vote in this because, sadly, I didn’t have the time (a hundred albums? Takes time, you know), and I do feel a bit rueful about not voting, especially seeing Escalator just missing the 250 cut, but I have thoroughly enjoyed the countdown, the hilarious chat and in particular the repositioning of Grant Green at the centre of jazz history.

Given that, due to the voting demographic, the list was inevitably almost all-American, I wonder whether there’s a case for doing a “Rest of the World” poll, getting in everyone from Lars Gullin to the Necks.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 5 September 2011 08:14 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone who has the blue note covers book how is it?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 02:15 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

just ordered just ordered The Complete Africa / Brass Sessions for £9 on amazon.co.uk im skint now but im sure it's worth it

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 4 September 2011 02:53 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink


these are both vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv. much worth it! i love them both like children. (africa brass is most prob. the jazz record i listen to most, so...)

annoyed real mccoy never made it but otoh great poll! ty sean and kerr. it has already made me buy 2 records and 1 book and make a large grunting noise at how shit my local hmv jazz section is. i'm sure over the coming months i'll be coming back here for buying recommendations.

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 09:08 (twelve years ago) link

new favorite jam thanks to this poll: Donald Byrd's Cristo Redentor. Been meaning to check out that album for awhile so i guess it was inevitable. Also a new fan of Electric Byrd and some Mingus stuff, so thanks dudes.

also need to see what Archie Schepp is all about. Major blind spot.

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:09 (twelve years ago) link

oh and kinda surprised not a single vote for Fat Albert Rotunda.

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:12 (twelve years ago) link

uh Shepp xp

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 5 September 2011 10:15 (twelve years ago) link

yeah please do check out Archie Shepp

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 5 September 2011 11:57 (twelve years ago) link

marcello do you approve of any high placings or discover anything you haven't heard? Glad you enjoyed the poll. Wish you had voted.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 5 September 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

is cosmo marcello? wow i am behind in figuring out new usernames.

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

Marcello posted before Cosmo, that's what Kerr is referring to.

Tuomas, Monday, 5 September 2011 13:30 (twelve years ago) link

oh, lol bookmarks

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Monday, 5 September 2011 13:36 (twelve years ago) link

hah

i want my bluenote book. home delivery network are delivering it and some of my cds. hope this free amazon prime trial is worth it!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 5 September 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link


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