JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

There is a Coltrane Impulse box, his "complete" quartet recordings -- and just the quartet. So, no Africa/Brass, no Ascension, no Meditations, none of the records with his 66-67 quintet, no 1961 Vanguard (Dolphy was in that group), no Interstellar Space, and none of the previously-unreleased quartet recordings that came to light after the "complete" box was issued.

Might have a look for that if its not too expensive and if its cheaper than buying stuff together.

Better than that though is the Coltrane On Impulse sets that they've been putting out. Five albums in each volume with the superior Japanese remasters, no extras, no alternates. The first three volumes are everything released in his lifetime; volumes 4 & 5 will be out in the next couple of months and start collecting the posthumous releases. The first 3 sets are cheap - around $35 or so. 4 & 5 look to be around $60 each - I think the demand is less, and the print runs will be smaller.

a Dave Brubeck Quartet three-album set (fuck the haters, this was an awesome band with an unique sound)

imo paul desmond >>> dave brubeck, and a more defining element to the group's sound. you might want to pursue some of his stuff

I think they're actually called John Coltrane: The Impulse Albums Volume _. As much as I like some of the alternates on the special edition single sets (like The Complete Africa/Brass) I find that I greatly prefer the albums as intended when possible. I even took the time to separate the Atlantic boxsets for Coltrane, Coleman & Mingus into the intended albums when I ripped them into itunes.

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xp to myself although obv desmond was linked to p much the best brubeck stuff

I agree that Desmond was the real star of the group, but the rest of them were suberb and tight players too, at least during the Morello/Wright era. That said, I'm not familiar with Desmond's solo career, what would be a good place to start?

his record w/ don elliot is cool, no piano

im actually no clear on the consensus records for him though tbh -- i know his stuff w/ jim hall is good tho

ooh i forgot this one is great for sure
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51f3JKtxxDL._SS500_.jpg

ouch too spendy
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Classic-Quartet-Complete-Impulse-Studio-Recordings/dp/B00000DHZ9/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1315074435&sr=1-2

same goes for complete heavyweight (if i had £150 it would be worth it though)

Kerr, have a look at the Impulse Albums boxes that EZ mentioned. Cheap-ish from Play.com but delivery is a bit slow:

http://www.play.com/Search.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=Coltrane+Impulse!+Albums

yeah im going to! cheers

bit too expensive just now but i can wait until they all come down to £20 each then i might consider it.
i would like to buy Om though and Ascension. Would prefer to get separate albums though unless that major works of cd set is better? Anyone know?

Found major works of 2xcd in the usa for £11 inc postage. Unless its a shoddy mastering i think i might take that.

It's definitely very well mastered. I'm actually listening to "Om" from it right now. I love this whole set completely, a major turning point in my listening.

That was how I was introduced to that work back in '92. The mastering is fine, but not outstanding. I think you'll be good to go with that until you decide you want the individual remasters. It's essential music regardless of how it's presented.

I had no idea the Impulse boxes were so expensive overseas. As I said, before the fourth one I never paid more than $35. I've pre-ordered the 4th box (out next week!) and it was tough forking out $20 more. I wouldn't have paid $70 bucks for them, that's for sure.

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ive been meaning to buy major works for 15 years! but because I had om and ascension on a copied tape i never bothered parting with the cash and bought stuff i didn't have then along came p2p and y'know. Would have picked it up in a shop but none of them ever had them when i looked. But im gonna get it. Cheaper than the individual albums and i can always pick them up one by one if i ever see them cheap.

haha fuck me
this settles it http://www.amazon.co.uk/Om-20Bit-John-Coltrane/dp/B0000562N6/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1315077749&sr=1-1

Also, Major Works has both takes of Ascension (though for some reason, Edition II is the first take, and Edition I is the second).

ordered

"Edition I" was the first version released; "Edition II" replaced it shortly thereafter because Coltrane decided he preferred it.

I hope you like it. Pretty life changing thing for me when I first heard it.

oh i know these albums well , as i said i had copies for years. It just took me this long to finally own them.

blame bobby gillespie for me liking om. Hearing an interview on radio scotland with him about Om and it playing in the background turned me on to it and i had already got ascension from the library. Wish i could have bought the cds/lps i ordered in to the library as they probably sat in the stores for years and if they haven't been sold off they're prob in a dusty storeroom.

3 mingus albums in a 2xCD set for £3.93. Bit of a bargain guys

In many people's eyes, Mingus merited the title of genius, his writing for both small and large ensembles being compared to that of Duke Ellington - the ultimate accoloade. His bass playing, honed in the company of major players like Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie was out of the top drawer. On this release we bring together three of Mingus' albums, two of which are regarded as modern jazz classics: 'Mingus Ah Um' and 'The Clown', as well as the relatively neglected 'Pithecanthropus Erectus', which even all these years down the line is worthy of re-appraisal.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mingus-Ah-Um-Charles/dp/B003143FYK/ref=lh_ni_t

bought Mwandishi forgot i hadnt bought that (yes another i had a copy off in the 90s from the library so never got round to buying despite having crossings and sextant and all the funky albums from that era).

Ordered a bunch of Coltrane cds cheap from ebay. Spent about £20 in all + the £10 for major worksof Damn that idiot who came up with the idea of a jazz poll.

I wonder how many ilxor will buy from this poll (assuming he still is interested in jazz)

Anyone who has the blue note covers book how is it?

just ordered just ordered The Complete Africa / Brass Sessions for £9 on amazon.co.uk im skint now but im sure it's worth it

Totally worth it for three versions of "Africa", let alone all the other songs (two versions of "Greensleeves", "Song of the Underground Railroad", "Blues Minor - all amazing). Probably my favorite Coltrane studio recordings (The Complete 1961 Village Vanguard Recordings I rank above all else. I love the open interplay of Dolphy & Coltrane and wish they had decades to work together).

those impulse coltrane boxes w/ the original albums are great -- much better imo than listening to the chronological classic quintet box (which is good too, but...). It made me appreciate how those albums were put together -- very nice flow and sequencing for the most part.

& i agree w/ EZ the complete village vanguard is a thing of beauty -- the versions of "spritual" on there are monumental, incomparable. same goes for "india".

"Live" At The Village Vanguard was my first Coltrane, and I listened to my dubbed copy so much that I could probably hum the entire record from memory. I'd never heard -- or heard of -- Eric Dolphy before, and his solo on "Spiritual" knocked me for a loop from which I have yet to recover (some 20 years on).

I have a great memory of coming to my parents house with two really good college friends, getting extremely high out back and then coming in and listening to the Village Vanguard boxed set for the first time (I had probably just gotten it as a gift). Just thinking about it made me want to put it on -- only have disc 3 for some reason on my itunes. But man, the way they just hit right off with Chasin The Trane. An opener blues could be such a throwaway but the way they play it they're such a force.

Really enjoying reading these poll threads even tho I haven't voted in any yet & probably won't...well done everybody!

cheers glad you enjoyed it. Did you discover anything new?

I've never heard this John Coltrane 5 star album http://allmusic.com/album/the-cats-r165664/review
Anyone heard it?

I heard it back when I used to own the Complete Prestige set. Don't recall it as hugely better than any of the other Prestige works; but then again, I sold the set because I realized I have little use for Coltrane's pre-Atlantic recordings (the Monk works excepted).

see that herbie hancock live bootlegs blog link that was posted? Just thought you all might like to know that rapidshare has no limits now. So just wire in
http://neverenoughrhodes.blogspot.com/2008/05/never-enough-live-herbie-hancock.html

Although I didn't consider myself well-versed enough in jazz to vote in this poll, a big thanks to all that did since I've been looking to expand my collection and even amongst the top 20 finishers there are several I've never heard. Lots of essential stuff to seek out.

That said, I'm disappointed that the Groove Collective (Spotify link) didn't place....

the real question is did anyone buy a spiritual hat because of the poll?

not yet. but you never know what will happen once i get back into my normal routine.

the real question is did anyone buy a spiritual hat because of the poll?

I think my halo is sufficient.

I've never heard this John Coltrane 5 star album http://allmusic.com/album/the-cats-r165664/review
Anyone heard it?
i've got it as part of the side steps prestige box set, i think. probably one of the least essential coltrane-related records ... but! i said it on other threads, but I think that period is worth hearing -- especially the red garland records that trane is on. maybe coltrane at his most relaxed?

i didn't purchase any new spiritual hats, but i did retrieve some from the closet for future wearing. as it appears, i have a lot of hats.
i also made two non-jazz-listening friends listen to IaSW last night and they liked it.

and did they wear spiritual hats or feel the urge to go buy any?

going over this thread and listening to nothing but jazz in the last couple days - I've realized I have very little understanding/conception of the jazz audience of the 60s. I kind of assume jazz reached its commercial/popular peak much earlier (I know Miles' best-selling albums were in the 60s, but the ubiquity of jazz as a dominant style seems undeniable for earlier eras like the 20s-40s than it does for the 60s, what with r'n'r in the picture), but as a genre the general consensus represented here is that the aesthetic/artistic peak was in the late 50s through the 60s. This is when a lot of the essential ingredients of jazz - swing, improvisation, acoustic ensemble playing - became really intensely refined. But exactly how popular was, say, a giant like John Coltrane...? I have no idea. And who bought these records? Middle-class black people, white "intellectuals"...? I can't really see Hank Mobley and Grant Green appealling much to teenagers, the whole Blue Note vibe is one of adult sophistication, for example.

― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier),

my fave post on the thread. Did we ever agree on an answer?

they had a huge collegiate audience

although college then was more exclusive iirc

rich & privileged you mean?

maiden voyage=sailboat jazz obv