JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

Poll of SPIRITUAL HATS

Spotify Playlist

thanks for the poll, Armand! (I know you're former ILX poster ____ but not sure who)
this poll has given me a loooooooooong list of stuff i'm dying to hear

Yeah, lots of homework.

Any chance you could post the list of songs on the Spotify playlist (one song per album right?) for those of us (lolCanadians) who can't see it? Song by song will be a lot faster/easier than album by album.

Thanks for this.

I learned that nobody likes jazz vocalists but me :(

and you said you were a vibraphone guy too, right? have you heard http://jazzbluesclub.com/uploads/posts/thumbs/1253951116_timefortwo.jpg

Sadly missed most of the countdown, now realise what huge gaps I have in my jazz knowledge. Will be hammering spotify over the next few months.

Only one album whose placing has me shocked, '297 Keith Jarrett - The Köln Concert 253 2 0', I expected this to be a top 30 placing easily.

plenty of things I thought would place but not everything can place.

Any chance you could post the list of songs on the Spotify playlist (one song per album right?) for those of us (lolCanadians) who can't see it? Song by song will be a lot faster/easier than album by album.

Thanks for this.

― misty sensorium (Plasmon),

There's no way to c&p anything like that over, sorry. It's mostly the full albums on the list (except some albums dont have songs available for some reason)

The only real surprises for me were the low placings of Brown/Roach records, and Braxton's Creative Orchestra Music 1976 not placing in the top 250. It was a relatively big record when it was released (topped Down Beat's 1977 critics poll); but then, it's been out of print pretty much from the late 70s until the expensive Mosaic set came out a couple years ago.

And thanks for posting the Spotify list! Currently listening to Grant Green's take on George Russell's "Ezz-Thetic", gonna dig into Herbie soon (never heard any of his records as a leader).

but remember it's an ILM poll not a Downbeat poll. As I said on the other thread, people should have campaigned for albums.

I know, I don't think I campaigned for anything. I think a lot of it has to do with visibility, too; if a record's out of print for x number of years/decades, its hearers are necessarily going to be fewer than those of consistently-in-print records.

i campaigned for Soul Station and Cool Struttin' and posted spotify links to the albums and it seemed to work. Same with the links to 50 Trane, I had feared earlier Miles & Trane would suffer, but thankfully not!

It can work both ways tarfumes, sometimes oop albums get a mythology of their own.

True, hence the placing of Babi (among others).

yeah, i downloaded that one. A friend of mine in poland digs that lp so much.(he owns it) he used to post on here when he lived in the usa/canada but sadly is a poll hater.

This may be discussed elsewhere on the thread, but with all that Miles I'm kinda surprised by no Elevator to the Gallows.

True, hence the placing of Babi (among others).

― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, September 3, 2011 8:53 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or the trane & monk record that was only released a couple yrs ago

the trane and monk record that placed came out in 1961

N/M just saw the quartet one

just ordered that blue note book. my folks have amazon prime trial so will get it monday it says. might order a couple of cd's too as there's a few good cheap ones. Hardly bought a thing for months.

Now what to buy? Gonna order something that isnt actually in the poll but wanted to get for ages and now I am going to.
All this stuff on Spotify has made me lazy about buying, and I've decided that since 99% of my jazz collection is on CD im just going to keep buying jazz on cd instead of vinyl as it's too expensive and amazon has cd's for 4 or 5 quid.

Obv got a fair bit of these albums on CD but gonna get a few i dont have already. Bizarrely im lacking in most coltrane but id like to get the rest of the Impulse cds first, anyone know if there's a Coltrane impulse box?

if not im just gonna look out for cheap coltrane impulse cds.Dont need any miles (apart from a few box sets) as i have that giant 70cd box from a year or 2 back.

This poll got me to order Money Jungle, The Far-East Suite, a Dave Brubeck Quartet three-album set (fuck the haters, this was an awesome band with an unique sound), and The Betty Carter Album (wasn't familiar with her, but Deej's and Shakey's posts certainly got me interested) from Amazon, so it's certainly been a good way of introducing new stuff to me. Thanks Kerr & Sean!

There is a Coltrane Impulse box, his "complete" quartet recordings -- and just the quartet. So, no Africa/Brass, no Ascension, no Meditations, none of the records with his 66-67 quintet, no 1961 Vanguard (Dolphy was in that group), no Interstellar Space, and none of the previously-unreleased quartet recordings that came to light after the "complete" box was issued.

Might have a look for that if its not too expensive and if its cheaper than buying stuff together.

Better than that though is the Coltrane On Impulse sets that they've been putting out. Five albums in each volume with the superior Japanese remasters, no extras, no alternates. The first three volumes are everything released in his lifetime; volumes 4 & 5 will be out in the next couple of months and start collecting the posthumous releases. The first 3 sets are cheap - around $35 or so. 4 & 5 look to be around $60 each - I think the demand is less, and the print runs will be smaller.

a Dave Brubeck Quartet three-album set (fuck the haters, this was an awesome band with an unique sound)

imo paul desmond >>> dave brubeck, and a more defining element to the group's sound. you might want to pursue some of his stuff

I think they're actually called John Coltrane: The Impulse Albums Volume _. As much as I like some of the alternates on the special edition single sets (like The Complete Africa/Brass) I find that I greatly prefer the albums as intended when possible. I even took the time to separate the Atlantic boxsets for Coltrane, Coleman & Mingus into the intended albums when I ripped them into itunes.

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xp to myself although obv desmond was linked to p much the best brubeck stuff

I agree that Desmond was the real star of the group, but the rest of them were suberb and tight players too, at least during the Morello/Wright era. That said, I'm not familiar with Desmond's solo career, what would be a good place to start?

his record w/ don elliot is cool, no piano

im actually no clear on the consensus records for him though tbh -- i know his stuff w/ jim hall is good tho

ooh i forgot this one is great for sure
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51f3JKtxxDL._SS500_.jpg

ouch too spendy
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Classic-Quartet-Complete-Impulse-Studio-Recordings/dp/B00000DHZ9/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1315074435&sr=1-2

same goes for complete heavyweight (if i had £150 it would be worth it though)

Kerr, have a look at the Impulse Albums boxes that EZ mentioned. Cheap-ish from Play.com but delivery is a bit slow:

http://www.play.com/Search.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=Coltrane+Impulse!+Albums

yeah im going to! cheers

bit too expensive just now but i can wait until they all come down to £20 each then i might consider it.
i would like to buy Om though and Ascension. Would prefer to get separate albums though unless that major works of cd set is better? Anyone know?

Found major works of 2xcd in the usa for £11 inc postage. Unless its a shoddy mastering i think i might take that.

It's definitely very well mastered. I'm actually listening to "Om" from it right now. I love this whole set completely, a major turning point in my listening.

That was how I was introduced to that work back in '92. The mastering is fine, but not outstanding. I think you'll be good to go with that until you decide you want the individual remasters. It's essential music regardless of how it's presented.

I had no idea the Impulse boxes were so expensive overseas. As I said, before the fourth one I never paid more than $35. I've pre-ordered the 4th box (out next week!) and it was tough forking out $20 more. I wouldn't have paid $70 bucks for them, that's for sure.

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ive been meaning to buy major works for 15 years! but because I had om and ascension on a copied tape i never bothered parting with the cash and bought stuff i didn't have then along came p2p and y'know. Would have picked it up in a shop but none of them ever had them when i looked. But im gonna get it. Cheaper than the individual albums and i can always pick them up one by one if i ever see them cheap.

haha fuck me
this settles it http://www.amazon.co.uk/Om-20Bit-John-Coltrane/dp/B0000562N6/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1315077749&sr=1-1

Also, Major Works has both takes of Ascension (though for some reason, Edition II is the first take, and Edition I is the second).

ordered

"Edition I" was the first version released; "Edition II" replaced it shortly thereafter because Coltrane decided he preferred it.

I hope you like it. Pretty life changing thing for me when I first heard it.

oh i know these albums well , as i said i had copies for years. It just took me this long to finally own them.

blame bobby gillespie for me liking om. Hearing an interview on radio scotland with him about Om and it playing in the background turned me on to it and i had already got ascension from the library. Wish i could have bought the cds/lps i ordered in to the library as they probably sat in the stores for years and if they haven't been sold off they're prob in a dusty storeroom.

3 mingus albums in a 2xCD set for £3.93. Bit of a bargain guys

In many people's eyes, Mingus merited the title of genius, his writing for both small and large ensembles being compared to that of Duke Ellington - the ultimate accoloade. His bass playing, honed in the company of major players like Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie was out of the top drawer. On this release we bring together three of Mingus' albums, two of which are regarded as modern jazz classics: 'Mingus Ah Um' and 'The Clown', as well as the relatively neglected 'Pithecanthropus Erectus', which even all these years down the line is worthy of re-appraisal.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mingus-Ah-Um-Charles/dp/B003143FYK/ref=lh_ni_t

bought Mwandishi forgot i hadnt bought that (yes another i had a copy off in the 90s from the library so never got round to buying despite having crossings and sextant and all the funky albums from that era).

Ordered a bunch of Coltrane cds cheap from ebay. Spent about £20 in all + the £10 for major worksof Damn that idiot who came up with the idea of a jazz poll.

I wonder how many ilxor will buy from this poll (assuming he still is interested in jazz)