JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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deej none of those names ring familiar to me and it doesnt have a wiki page - wanna go into more detail?

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

Vocal jazz is always overlooked in lists like that. Nina Simone showing up doesn't surprise me but I was a little shocked to see Sarah Vaughn make the list (much as I love that album.) That Sarah Vaughn album is killer but I slightly prefer Clifford Brown's album with Helen Merrill. It's probably down to the fact that vocal jazz is more about ~great songs~ than the album qua album. Is this an insightful comment? I don't even know what up looks like anymore.

gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

rabih abou-khalil is a lebanese oud player. allmusic has a good review
http://www.allmusic.com/album/blue-camel-r160732/review

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

everyone please quit the trolling and talk about the albums

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

didn't vote, that whole process of nominating then voting isn't my thing. but i'm glad others do! and i don't really have beef w/the list, just think these people deserve some love, respect, and/or attention.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

Vocal jazz is always overlooked in lists like that. Nina Simone showing up doesn't surprise me but I was a little shocked to see Sarah Vaughn make the list (much as I love that album.) That Sarah Vaughn album is killer but I slightly prefer Clifford Brown's album with Helen Merrill. It's probably down to the fact that vocal jazz is more about ~great songs~ than the album qua album. Is this an insightful comment? I don't even know what up looks like anymore.

― gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, September 2, 2011 3:35 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think 'dinah jams' is a crazy great record & also includes clifford brown -- ive got you under my skin version is amazing (max roach + brown, maynard furgeson & clark terry in a trumpet battle!!)

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

going to work, hope there isnt a clusterfuck in my bookmarks tomorrow morning when i'm trying to see the winner.

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

Clifford Brown is serious. That whole Mosaic box is killer and it's a mind-boggling "what if?" to think about him living past the age of 25.

gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

other artists that didnt make the list that have been on my mind ... woody shaw, jon faddis (of course im naming trumpet players), abdullah ibrahim ... stan kenton was another good one GD mentioned

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

5    Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959) 3011 Points, 22 votes
http://img9.9sky.com/picture/cpfm/_V2/4/47987/47987_a.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/2iPH3iUmpa9ufIpwY76keF

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

(That was in response to: everyone please quit the trolling and talk about the albums.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

okay that is too high

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah clifford brown could still be alive today, which is nuts. he was apparently a clean living kind of guy. no idea what musical route he would've taken though.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

Haha Rudipherous you're impossible today. But so am I.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

Troll = official ILM cosmic jazz hat mascot

Moodles, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

okay that is too high

― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, September 2, 2011 3:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm imo

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

sidebar: my uncle's father-in-law is a Stan Kenton devotee to this day, is super enthusiastic about jazz even in his 80s, still goes out to see live jazz regularly. is always like "oh this record is AWESOME here TAKE IT! i've listened to it 100 times, got it memorized, OH if you like that then you GOTTA hear THIS" *scurries away to go pluck out another gem. his knowledge stops at like 1958 but so cool to talk to him about the music he's passionate about

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

Shape of Jazz to Come (and most of the other Atlantic recordings) are among my all time favorites, so I'm ok with 5th place

Moodles, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

No Julius Hemphill, no Gene Ammons, no Bill Dixon, no Tony Oxley, no Lennie Tristano :(

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

Pharoah Sanders on the other hand, as much as I love him, is probably too high on this list.

Moodles, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, I'm still holding out for Dixon's Intents & Purposes placing in the top 4!

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

Dogon A.D. is definitely an oversight.

gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

no Gene Ammons,

was wondering about this myself

this top 10 ordering is pretty bonkers imho

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

i voted for shape of jazz -- if i'm gona vote for one ornette, it's gonna be that one.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

I'm more of a Coon Bid'ness guy, but any Hemphill would have been welcome.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

i like gene ammons but sadly lots of things are gonna miss out in a poll. but maybe if some more of you guys complaining voted it would be different

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

(not having a go at anyone who didn't, you have your reasons)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

maybe if you guys who voted listened to REAL JAZZ

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

winky face obv

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

can we post our ballots yet?

Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

the jazz contingent on ilm is tiny. half of the jazz d-bags posters didn't vote/nominate so im amazed and well chuffed we got 39 voters (thanks to you all). But we got a great list of 250 awesome records and full results will be posted at the end so you can still check out some great albums that missed the top 250

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

~can u feel it~

gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder what it would have taken for this to be a 'bad list'

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

hah, no william. Do you guys want a separate post yr ballots thread? if so i'll start one when it's time

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

deej do you think this is really a bad list??

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

no. the backpatting abt how good it was seemed a bit silly tho

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link

well it has a 250 of great albums. That people will check out if they haven't already I'd consider that good.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

4    Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch (1964) 3080 Points, 22 votes
http://alifewellwasted.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Eric_Dolphy-Out_To_Lunch-Frontal.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3PIVqZzL1PnrxFZDzuT1aX

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

Beautiful album.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

Poll #4 = my #4

Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

kind of prefer other dolphy albums to it, though. it's fab, but i reach for the five spot albums more.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

Of all the places to complain about the obscurity impulses of ILX you're really going to take this thread up as your cause, deej? You're posting on a message board that was spawned from a Belle & Sebastian listserv.

gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

I mean of all the polls ILX has done in the 8 years I've been lurking this is the first one where I was like "yeah, that's cool."

gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

tylerw, totally. Vol I of Live at the Five Spot is :O

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

Love that Dolphy record so much. As much as I dig his other records, the closest thing I can think of that approaches it in terms of arrangements/compositional sensibility is Tony Williams' hella underrated Spring and Life Time.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

3 Kenny G - Classics In The Key of Deej (1999) 33333333 Points, 333 votes, 303 #1's
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gs5wUdnaTAI/TcQG3i4WWCI/AAAAAAAAAh8/YQmyn47vUJI/s1600/Frontal.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/1wLXshc2igqrn9dvE64Ko8

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

*tumbleweed*

zvookster, Friday, 2 September 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link


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