JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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Davis has an insanely broad range of folks he's worked with: Van Morrison, Andrew Hill, Albert Ayler, Springsteen, and supposedly the trio of him, Lowell Davidson and Milford Graves was a monster live.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

this is a cool list but gotta point out that these people aren't represented at all...2 of the greatest tenor saxes, arguably the greatest jazz vocalist, 2 of the greatest pianists, 2 of the greastest drummers, arguably the greatest guitarist, one of the greatest bandleaders, arguably the most iconic jazz artist ever.
and as i've said i'd rep for a post 45 album for each of them above, well honestly anything from, say, sun ra.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Too much fake jazz imo.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

u sound butthurt

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

arguably the greatest jazz vocalist... arguably the greatest guitarist

pretty sure I know who yr referring to re/the latter (Django) and I agree. I have my guesses about the former but in general the lack of vocal jazz on here is lame. the only thing that even comes close is A New Perspective.

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

as far as the stuff that was included, i still cant believe how low 'live at birdland' was. no record w/ 'afro blue' & 'alabama' on it should be that low

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

Billie Holiday, Shakey

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

It's just hilarious, genuinely. This is akin to someone claiming people who like, idk, Messiaen more than Couperin don't like Real Classical Music and that there's something inherently flawed in their judgment and approach. What are the characteristics of Real Jazz, D-40? Definitely harps can't be a part of any Real Jazz performance, you've made that point clear. But what IS real jazz? Enlighten me.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

Songs For Distingue Lovers...check that shit out y'all

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

6    Pharoah Sanders - Karma (1969) 2996 Points, 21 votes 
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pbqRGfiCuGk/TPpCwCbijkI/AAAAAAAAAoM/vrGkcYHH6Mw/s1600/sc0007c165.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/04sSPjO9MQFQ6fG4lpBI3G

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

speaking of essential vocalists, zero lambert, hendricks & ross

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

whoa. some how something at #6 can seem TOO LOW.

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

It's just hilarious, genuinely. This is akin to someone claiming people who like, idk, Messiaen more than Couperin don't like Real Classical Music and that there's something inherently flawed in their judgment and approach. What are the characteristics of Real Jazz, D-40? Definitely harps can't be a part of any Real Jazz performance, you've made that point clear. But what IS real jazz? Enlighten me.

― The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, September 2, 2011 3:26 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

all of the shit we're naming that you didn't vote for is some of the 'real jazz' that you might want to check out instead of trying to tell us we're being purist fascists or whatever

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

How can you be sure I wouldn't have voted for it, didn't vote for some of it?

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

like i thought that was top 3 at worst.

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

ilm doesnt like spiritual jazz

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

sanders in that cover photo is like: "ommmmm in 30 years i'm going to make mad ebay $$$ from spiritual hat dbagssssss ommmmmmm"

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

is someone like Jimmie Rushing considered a jazz vocalist? yes cause he was with Basie, right?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

HAHAHA

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

Karma really is about as perfect a piece of music can be. I think if someone asked me about jazz it would be the record I'd tell them to listen to, to hear the genuine possibilities people can create way and above what we recognise as music

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13L6sjk080c pt 2 and 3 also on youtube, as its not on spotify.

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

for all u spiritual hat folks, this record is so awesome & up your alley -- its 'weird' & interesting & imo awesome, didnt make the list tho :(

http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/l/e/lestp/bluecamel.jpg

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

Real Jazz, guys = all of the shit we're naming that you didn't vote for

(he's somehow accessed my ballot & nominations)

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

D-40 and granny dainger which of those albums that you say arent in the poll ones that you voted for?

BlindWillyPuller, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

i didnt turn in a ballot

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

deej none of those names ring familiar to me and it doesnt have a wiki page - wanna go into more detail?

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

Vocal jazz is always overlooked in lists like that. Nina Simone showing up doesn't surprise me but I was a little shocked to see Sarah Vaughn make the list (much as I love that album.) That Sarah Vaughn album is killer but I slightly prefer Clifford Brown's album with Helen Merrill. It's probably down to the fact that vocal jazz is more about ~great songs~ than the album qua album. Is this an insightful comment? I don't even know what up looks like anymore.

gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

rabih abou-khalil is a lebanese oud player. allmusic has a good review
http://www.allmusic.com/album/blue-camel-r160732/review

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

everyone please quit the trolling and talk about the albums

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

didn't vote, that whole process of nominating then voting isn't my thing. but i'm glad others do! and i don't really have beef w/the list, just think these people deserve some love, respect, and/or attention.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

Vocal jazz is always overlooked in lists like that. Nina Simone showing up doesn't surprise me but I was a little shocked to see Sarah Vaughn make the list (much as I love that album.) That Sarah Vaughn album is killer but I slightly prefer Clifford Brown's album with Helen Merrill. It's probably down to the fact that vocal jazz is more about ~great songs~ than the album qua album. Is this an insightful comment? I don't even know what up looks like anymore.

― gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, September 2, 2011 3:35 PM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think 'dinah jams' is a crazy great record & also includes clifford brown -- ive got you under my skin version is amazing (max roach + brown, maynard furgeson & clark terry in a trumpet battle!!)

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

going to work, hope there isnt a clusterfuck in my bookmarks tomorrow morning when i'm trying to see the winner.

Jay-Z ft. Kanye 'Big Hat Club (Spiritual Big Hat Club Jazz Remix)' (a hoy hoy), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

Clifford Brown is serious. That whole Mosaic box is killer and it's a mind-boggling "what if?" to think about him living past the age of 25.

gutta gutta island (s. morris), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

other artists that didnt make the list that have been on my mind ... woody shaw, jon faddis (of course im naming trumpet players), abdullah ibrahim ... stan kenton was another good one GD mentioned

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

5    Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come (1959) 3011 Points, 22 votes
http://img9.9sky.com/picture/cpfm/_V2/4/47987/47987_a.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/2iPH3iUmpa9ufIpwY76keF

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

(That was in response to: everyone please quit the trolling and talk about the albums.)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

okay that is too high

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah clifford brown could still be alive today, which is nuts. he was apparently a clean living kind of guy. no idea what musical route he would've taken though.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

Haha Rudipherous you're impossible today. But so am I.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

Troll = official ILM cosmic jazz hat mascot

Moodles, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

okay that is too high

― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, September 2, 2011 3:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm imo

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

sidebar: my uncle's father-in-law is a Stan Kenton devotee to this day, is super enthusiastic about jazz even in his 80s, still goes out to see live jazz regularly. is always like "oh this record is AWESOME here TAKE IT! i've listened to it 100 times, got it memorized, OH if you like that then you GOTTA hear THIS" *scurries away to go pluck out another gem. his knowledge stops at like 1958 but so cool to talk to him about the music he's passionate about

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

Shape of Jazz to Come (and most of the other Atlantic recordings) are among my all time favorites, so I'm ok with 5th place

Moodles, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

No Julius Hemphill, no Gene Ammons, no Bill Dixon, no Tony Oxley, no Lennie Tristano :(

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

Pharoah Sanders on the other hand, as much as I love him, is probably too high on this list.

Moodles, Friday, 2 September 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, I'm still holding out for Dixon's Intents & Purposes placing in the top 4!

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link


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