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― thank got forks showed up (forksclovetofu), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah but its been a slippery slope on his albums too
― D-40, Friday, September 2, 2011 12:38 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark
except you think his last album is better than its predecessor
― J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2011 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
they're comparable. i like more songs on the 3rd, on balance. the 1st is still head & shoulders
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh man ok feeling this hook! ghetto! ghetto! it's reminding me of something totally obvious (a -dream song)
-k3vin k
"ghetto" kinda reminded me of mariah's "ribbon"?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:09 AM (Yesterday)
it's "gangsta luv"!!
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
whenever i listen to "long gone", i always picture kyle from "party down" singing "stop fucking with me... ROMAN"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2011 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
ROCK OUT!
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 3 September 2011 05:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
that studio video posted upthread was really interesting. on one hand it's really impressive that he's writing songs on the spot and making really quick decisions, and knocking out tracks in an hour per. on the other hand that doesn't leave much room for detail work/spending time on sounds/etc
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, September 2, 2011 10:37 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
maybe my ears are tricking me, but the sound in those 'making-of' vids seemed different to me. like, he whips up a demo with cheap sounds as a songwriting tool, and then the producers re-do it, add detail and depth, etc.
i think that's what his own productions are missing, some of the sparkle. they're kind of flat and unmixed somehow, there's not much dimension.
― goole, Saturday, 3 September 2011 05:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
i wish the verses to wedding crasher were better cuz the chorus has srsly been stuck in my head all wkend
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
never seen a nikka buy a house from the toilet
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
singing "stop fucking with me... ROMAN"
lolz this is in 'used to be' btw
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
this new album is an hour of everything I hate about the love/money and love king suites
blegh
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
what do you hate about the love/money & love king suites
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
esp you, kevin?
the interminable meandering vocals, the underwritten choruses, the ponderous and directionless instrumentation that weakly suggests 'bombast' but nothing else
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
the way it sounds like it's one bong hit away from being a spoken word joint about how you hate your ex
dayo otm
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:30 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
hmmm, i don't pick up any of this in the suites
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think i've been probably the most outspoken member of this board in the past few years saying that the "suites" (title tracks on LVM, abyss/february love/whatever on the last one) are his weakest material! they tend to trade corny atmospherics for actual songs imo
xp
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha I want to post a screencap of my itunes playcount for love/money
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, September 4, 2011 2:35 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark
i disagree w/ this characterization of the suites
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
partic 'abyss' ... wtf
I've always hated the suites but I dunno how vocal I've been on these threads about that. I distinctly remember j0rd defending the suites as being among the best songs on l/m and love king tho... lex too I think
yeah you love abyss, i know, i think it sucks, we've been over this xp
you just otm'ed dayo and i agree 100% w/ him so idk what side you're on here
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
i should take back my dayo otm -- i do think that this album is the worst parts of the-dream's schtick, but i don't think its the suites themselves that were the problem or have poor songwriting on the other 2 albums
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
fuck I almost had my first deej otm
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
*writes long meandering song full of corny atmospherics in protest*
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
the suites had the best songwriting -- 'yamaha' -> 'nikki pt 2' - > 'abyss', 'fancy' - > 'right side of my brain' - > 'mr. yeah'
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
what's the suite on love king? yamaha-nikki 2-abyss? that one is awesome. if the suite is sex intelligent, i sort of agree that it's boring.
i have no use for love vs. money-love vs. money part 2.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
dayo otm about his characterization of this album though imo
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
sex intelligent -> sex intelligent remix, nikki pt 2 -> abyss
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
woohoo *writes FILA pt. 2* xp
abyss is so great i don't understand how anyone could not love it
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
the abyss has a nice outro but the part leading up to it is a huge slog
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol
I think some of the lvm/lvm pt. 2 plays were a result of listening along while reading posts on here about them
imo the suites are
love vs money -> love vs money 2 -> fancy -> right side of my brain
yamaha -> nikki pt 2 -> abyss
i... can't remember reading many people speaking out against these songs but maybe i've forgotten idk
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
both suites are central to enjoyment of either album imo
it's an art, being mean to your ex in a song. i love abyss and florida university, but the love vs. moneys are so boring. i think it's because abyss + f.u. glory in how juvenile they are, but the lvms are so self-important and thinking they're deep or something?
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
i know this is the opposite of how most dream fans on ilx feel, but love vs. money--->fancy is all just dumb to me. sometimes i think it's because i'm a girl lol.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like right side of my brain a lot though
yeah the LvMs are possibly my least favorite the-dream tracks, outside of 'panties to the side' and 'let me see that booty' and that ilk
so self-indulgent
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
horseshoe i can see where you're coming from
personally i like the LVMs because i think they stand out sonically on an album that has such rich & idiosyncratic production everywhere else
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
i guess abyss isn't juvenile, but it's just straight-up mean instead of entering into tiresome justifications for meanness. also it sounds amazing.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
i feel like my love for dream's disgusting persona is this very delicate balance and 1977 just seems like he ripped off the sleazeball mask to reveal a really sincere sleazeball and it's like ugh put your clothes back on.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
what do the LvMs bring sonically though - hey, terius knows how to trigger a gunshot sound?
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah i am less attentive to this kind of thing. lol english majors.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
the entire thing is pretty painful to listen to
the suites had the best songwriting -- 'yamaha' -> 'nikki pt 2' - > 'abyss', 'fancy' - > 'right side of my brain' - > 'mr. yeah'― D-40, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:39 PM (4 minutes ago)
― D-40, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:39 PM (4 minutes ago)
i basically disagree with everything in this post, starting with what the suites even comprised - suites were pt1/pt2/fancy/right side on LVM (and i do love the latter two; tellingly they're a lot different than the former two in terms of structure, atmosphere, etc) and i guess yamaha/nikki pt2/abyss on the last one and obviously 'yamaha' doesn't need the other two to exist at all. i disagree that "nikki pt 2" is among his best songwriting jobs - weak, repetitive non-hook...and like i said imo "abyss" is just ugly to listen to but i think pretty obviously has some of his absolute worst lyrics
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
that first part was xp to horseshoe re: abyss
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
on the off chance nobody has made the "wake me when it's over" zing on 1977 yet, well, wake me when its over
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink