JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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Destination Out is great. McLean, Hutcherson, and Moncur collaborated on a few records around this time, maybe most notably Moncur's two GREAT records "Evolution" and "Some Other Stuff." If I'd gotten my act together to vote for this, both of those would have made my top 20 easy (Some Other Stuff probably top ten).

I saw the reunited band in Grant Park in Chicago in the 90s. Everyone was great, except Moncur. Nevertheless a great event.

broom air, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

cool, yeah moncur's records are ones i've been meaning to get to.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

It will blow your mind!

broom air, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

The Moncur Mosaic Select set is probably the way to go: has Evolution, Some Other Stuff, and the McLean records he's on.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

aren't all the mosaic boxes long OOP?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

Nope, some of them are just "Running Low."

Olivia Newsun John (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

the "select" boxes are usually more available, i think. this one is on amazon, anyway. but i think i could get all the albums it covers for cheaper separately. anyway, listening to Destination Out right now -- sounding awesome.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

21    Thelonious Monk - Brilliant Corners (1957) 2220 Points, 15  votes
http://www.terra-san.com/ccmail/jazz/Jazz%2020/TheloniousMonk.BrilliantCorners.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5V9uC1fklKKnY2ufNfFvR9

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

hmm I don't know Unit Structures. what's it like? fantastic cover!

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

i know the mosaic boxes I'd like are long OOP

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

maybe a little bit challopsy, but i've never gotten too into brilliant corners, something about it seems like a bit of a chore, it's missing the humor/playfulness of my favorite monk recordings? I don't know, maybe it'll click at some point.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

hmm I don't know Unit Structures. what's it like? fantastic cover!

It's like this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_woT6Mgp64c

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

havent heard the mclean, think hes pretty awesome tho generally, impressed this did so well!

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

that miles record is so so good -- the opening of coltrane's solo on the title track is burned into my brain

(dooo doot doo doot doot doot dooooo...doo doooooo)

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, that "round midnight" is pretty much top 10 all time jazz.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

would be if he was sportin a jaunty hat

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

20    Albert Ayler - Spiritual Hat Unity (1964) 2239 Points 17 votes
http://hhbrady.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/spiritual-unity-cover.jpg

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

Right on. I was hoping this would place in the top 20.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

I was actually expecting Unit Structures to make it.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

reallllly enjoying destination out, dudes, thanks.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

hurrah, must have been one of the cd's i got when i first got into jazz.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

19    Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda (1971) 2466 Points, 17 votes, One #1 
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oG9GEI0LKEY/TMVAfsxBrwI/AAAAAAAABZc/kvblgnDH1u4/s1600/cover.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/6zV55F6W8kh1qe8LHhqRbz

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

19 Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda (1971) 2466 Points, 17 votes, One #1
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oG9GEI0LKEY/TMVAfsxBrwI/AAAAAAAABZc/kvblgnDH1u4/s1600/cover.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/6zV55F6W8kh1qe8LHhqRbz

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

Charlie Parker Story will still place but having doubts about birds of fire and hot rats if they dont show up in the next 5 places. This isnt going to be a jazz canon poll is it?

BlindWillyPuller, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

Alice needs a hat

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

spiritual robe

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

her finest moment btw imho

also I listened to Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy last night and I don't really get what sets it apart from any of the other mid-60s Saturn releases. I mean it's great but it doesn't particularly stand out to me...? I forgot about the track with the phone repeatedly ringing in the background, that was funny.

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

eesh, what an album (JIS). just those opening moments, the bells, the bass, the harp...i like almost all of alice's records, but this one is the ONE.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

digging Unit Structures thx guys

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Somehow I didn't vote for this...scratching my spiritual head here. Great album.

dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

Alice needs a hat

Nah, her aura is adequate. I do love this album, aside maybe from the oud, because the oud just falls a bit flat compared to what I'm used to it sounding like.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

started listening to machine gun, but it's not quite what i'm in the frame of mind right now. herbie hancock seems to be doing the trick though, as usual.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, Ayler as an intro to jazz, that's intense. One of the things I picked up at Amoeba was a used Japanese import of Lonnie Liston Smith - Astral Traveling. I've never heard him before, and for some reason expected some funk, but it's more cosmic. Very nice.

I'll try to guess the next entry - Headhunters (I guessed Alice too but saw it's just posted)

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

Here's 16 albums we haven't had yet:

Ascension
Blue Train
A Love Supreme
My Favourite Things
Giant Steps
Mingus Ah Um
Black Saint & the Sinner Lady
Out To Lunch
In A Silent Way
Bitches Brew
Kind Of Blue
Sextant
Headhunters
Karma
The Shape Of Jazz To Come
The Real McCoy

The last one might be iffy, but it deserves to be right up there.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

I'm glad we reached the stage where no-one shouts too low and are just happy the album has placed.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

I'd say all of Nick's are locks, but yeah dunno about that Tyner album

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

i voted for it! so ... maybe? it's great, but anything with tyner/elvin jones is pretty great.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Seandalai did you mean that there is no more Sun Ra? I was sure Nuclear War would go top twenty.

BlindWillyPuller, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

curious that everyone loves miles but no one fucks with dude who he "gets all his inspiration from" ie ahmad jamal

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

Tempted to shout TOO LOW! but I'll leave it be. My favourite Miles album.

dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

I've only picked through this thread (not sure I'll ever make it through all of it:), but I'm interested in what deej is saying about Sun Ra and Pharoah Sanders. Maybe you've done this already, but could you post your ballot deej?

matt2, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

I was sure Nuclear War would go top twenty.

why?

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

because Yo La Tengo covered it?

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

deej didn't vote matt

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

i missed the deadline & im at work & my rough ballot is on my home comp but i can post it when i get back

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

curious that everyone loves miles but no one fucks with dude who he "gets all his inspiration from" ie ahmad jamal

thought you were gonna say Betty there for a minute lol

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

I was sure Nuclear War would go top twenty.

Is this generally seen as one of Ra's more significant records? I listen to it less than any other Ra.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

hmm yeah, was jamal even on the ballot?
he's a big missing piece of this poll.

tylerw, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

id say that based on these results the biases seem to be basically 'large figures w/ extensive discographies' (depth as opposed to breadth) + the mystical hat club of spiritual outsider jazz discussed earlier

it is what it is

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link


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