JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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dont have a problem w/ ornette's placement, he never resonated as much w/ me personally

D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

love sketches of spain, although im one of the few who actually likes porgy & bess the most of the gil collabs

never really liked 'miles ahead' that much tho

D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

the first time I heard Ornette I was surprised that it didn't ALL sound like Free Jazz tbh. Ornette! and This is Our Music, for example, are not that way out at all, the material follows standard jazz structures and sure some of the playing is weird (lol plastic instruments) but it's not at all abrasive and wild, if anything it's very lyrical and melodic.

xp

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

I'd probably place Free Jazz lower than the other Ornette albums on here.

Moodles, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

but from everything I had read about Ornette I was expecting non-stop fiery free wailing

xp

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

I had a similar experience. Much of his great albums don't sound particularly crazy or out, but I don't know exactly how they were perceived at the time.

Moodles, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

ha yeah, that's what i expected too. i think ayler was what i expected after reading about ornette. but those early records, like you say, are so much more playful -- fun even!

tylerw, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

37    Charles Mingus - Pithecanthropus Erectus (1956) 1528 Points, 12 votes
http://image.lyricspond.com/image/c/artist-charles-mingus/album-pithecanthropus-erectus/cd-cover.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/4kZ55sjjRKgCphjOmSMR7o

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:07 (twelve years ago) link

^^^surprised how high that was, i was under the impression ppl thought that was a lesser record, i like the title track a whole bunch tho

D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

listening to sketches now and really digging saeta

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

never understood why pithecanthropus erectus had that later shot of mingus pasted on it.
here's the original cover
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Pithecanthropus_Erectus.jpg

tylerw, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

that cover is atrocious

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

weird! I've never seen that

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

pretty bad though. could've been a Monk cover!

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

love the album though, was the first mingus i ever bought.

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the other one is more common for whatever reason, but it's just wrong.

tylerw, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

i don't like that original version at all

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

36 Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus (1956) 1538 Points, 13 votes, One #1
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Rgcl0ewXrrU/TXq1EFKvxbI/AAAAAAAABBU/KJnVzVB_JY4/s400/rollins.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/0yodD8uAkAT5UmrlF2xy97

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

^sweet drumming on that one

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

We can't make small comments anymore. They have to be essays on the sociopolitical implications of said sweet drumming.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

most records you buy w/ max roach on them are going to be good in my experience. he's like a trademark of quality.

tylerw, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

sweet drumming is righteous class war

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

that was my #1

little mushroom person (abanana), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

most records you buy w/ max roach on them are going to be good in my experience. he's like a trademark of quality.

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D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

smash the patriarchy with sweet drumming™

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

HAHA

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

35    Miles Davis - A Tribute To Jack Johnson (1970) 1616 Points, 14 votes
http://image-7.verycd.com/3ae920d343bc5d1c1ef1368bc962b6cf24806(600x)/thumb.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5Nu0qsOuJlFr9lQIp8kWBB

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

Still as astonishing as ever.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not the only one who thought this might sneak in the top 10 right?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

interesting cover there

I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

top 35=34 miles albums & love supreme

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

A great album, but it's swung from underrated to overrated in the past 10 years.

Moodles, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

i still remember hearing this for the 1st time in the mid-late 90s. I ordered it in via the library,it was in the big stores section of a library in east kilbride and hadn't been in the proper library for years so it was in great condition and it blew me away. Wish i had offered to buy it from them. Luckily it got a bit of a revival a few years back with that box and is now longer 'a lost classic'.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

didn't realize this one was so regarded. pretty good album, nothing extraordinary. might have to reinvestigate tho.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

box set of jack johnson sessions is worth it imo, tons of great stuff. not that pricey these days either.

tylerw, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

Yes! Mine came with a spiritual hat.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

34    Andrew Hill - Point of Departure (1964) 1626 Points, 14 votes
http://www.honestjons.com/doc_library/Originals/27398.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/647o8vl4OD1sjvvhql3jFS

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

Ooooh, this one's great.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

Great record, well chuffed it got in so high. I really recommend it to those who haven't heard it. Fantastic line up on it too.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

1st one in top 50 I've never heard of. Never even heard of Andrew Hill. Get a more distinctive jazzy name imo.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

go listen to some andrew hill. he's awesome.

wmlynch, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

i havent listened to that one in a loooong time need to check again

one of the greatest cover arts

D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

so this would be a good entry point on him?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

definitely

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

or Black Fire

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

Re: Jack Johnson, Moodles otm:

A great album, but it's swung from underrated to overrated in the past 10 years.

― Moodles, Thursday, September 1, 2011 4:38 PM (16 minutes ago)

Xgau's A+ is way too high.

Halal Spaceboy (WmC), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

he's had 4 in the list now and you couldn't go wrong with getting all 4.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

will check it out, but if it's not marginally better than Jack Johnson I won't be responsible for my actions...

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 September 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

the challop used to be that jack johnson was better than bitches brew, i kind of like it more personally, i agree that the swing back for Miles 70s records in general means that its hard to say its underrated any more

D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

it's more pleasant to listen to and ~groovier~ than bitches brew, but bb is more dynamic and colorful

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link


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