yeah, clearly he learned things from tricky & LOS that have informed and influenced his own productions, but I think the difference is pretty noticeable. A lot of Terius' productions come off as flimsy to me, like they're missing the intricacy and incredible attention-to-detail that Tricky & LOS bring to the table. Even a song like "Sex Intelligent," which has a lot going on and some cool details in the background, isn't as full-sounding as something like "Put It Down" or "She Needs My Love." Not sure if I'm describing it well, but a lot of his newer stuff just falls flat to me and the production is 100% at fault here (he's obviously still an incredible songwriter when he's on - as Beyonce's 4 proved).
― the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
had trouble getting through all this. i really think, more than the production, the weak songwriting is what differentiates this from earlier stuff
― D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is getting exceedingly pedantic but yah your past record on the-dream singles impacts how seriously i take your evaluation on them going forward as im sure would be true for any of us― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:29 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinktitle of track 1 otm― uberweiss, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:30 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:29 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
title of track 1 otm
― uberweiss, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:30 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i loled
― (gr8080), Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I LOVE THE WAY YOU SMELL
BUT YR ALWAYS ON SOME BULLSHIT
― (gr8080), Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Liked it just fine.
― pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
otm
i just let it play three times in a row while lounging in my skivvies, catching up on reading some news + ilx threads
― (gr8080), Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also is it just me or is Terius's production sounding cheaper and cheaper these days? His work around 2007 had so much more depth and bite to it, now it all sounds so much more presetty. I really like Silly but those Toytown synths sounds ridiculous in the staccato lead-up to the chorus.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
can't believe y'all never heard that smh
― the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:27 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark
― lil dawg (some dude), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
NOW I'M ON A LOVE TRAINAND I HOPE I GET OFF COS I'M SURE THE NEXT STOP IS COCAINE(OR SOME OTHER DRUG)
― thistle supporter (mcoll), Friday, 2 September 2011 04:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
MrTeriusNash Terius NashActually since I said I was retiring I made 1977 5 and Love IV 4. So like jordan I came back wearing the 45.
For the sake of my future fandom I may need to unfollow him.
― Evan R, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also is it just me or is Terius's production sounding cheaper and cheaper these days?
that studio video posted upthread was really interesting. on one hand it's really impressive that he's writing songs on the spot and making really quick decisions, and knocking out tracks in an hour per. on the other hand that doesn't leave much room for detail work/spending time on sounds/etc
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
a pretty modern methodologynot sure terius will be the finest practitioner, tho
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
i feel like there was something to his strength being the tension between tossed-off melodic instinct & labored-over, well-crafted track construction. now he's lost that balance
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
you feel he's lost it based on a free album?
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
not sure what the price has to do w/ it
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
nor did i imply that hes permanently lost it or w/e
although i wd say i am not hopeful
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
A lot probably hinges on how much Tricky and LOS involvement there is with Love IV
― Number None, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's not a correlation that always holds up but i tend to have lower expectations for something an artist gives away free than a "proper" release - in the case of terius it seems it would obviously be kinda tossed off in comparison to normal
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
i find these days i don't have the time or energy to bother with "expectations" or predicting how good an album's gonna be anyway. it might be genius, it might not be, til it gets here it's all speculation.
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah but its been a slippery slope on his albums too
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
we've been over this before but you know i disagree
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
""
― thank got forks showed up (forksclovetofu), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
― D-40, Friday, September 2, 2011 12:38 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark
except you think his last album is better than its predecessor
― J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2011 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
they're comparable. i like more songs on the 3rd, on balance. the 1st is still head & shoulders
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh man ok feeling this hook! ghetto! ghetto! it's reminding me of something totally obvious (a -dream song)
-k3vin k
"ghetto" kinda reminded me of mariah's "ribbon"?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:09 AM (Yesterday)
it's "gangsta luv"!!
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
whenever i listen to "long gone", i always picture kyle from "party down" singing "stop fucking with me... ROMAN"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2011 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
ROCK OUT!
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 3 September 2011 05:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, September 2, 2011 10:37 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
maybe my ears are tricking me, but the sound in those 'making-of' vids seemed different to me. like, he whips up a demo with cheap sounds as a songwriting tool, and then the producers re-do it, add detail and depth, etc.
i think that's what his own productions are missing, some of the sparkle. they're kind of flat and unmixed somehow, there's not much dimension.
― goole, Saturday, 3 September 2011 05:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
i wish the verses to wedding crasher were better cuz the chorus has srsly been stuck in my head all wkend
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
never seen a nikka buy a house from the toilet
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
singing "stop fucking with me... ROMAN"
lolz this is in 'used to be' btw
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
this new album is an hour of everything I hate about the love/money and love king suites
blegh
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
what do you hate about the love/money & love king suites
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
esp you, kevin?
the interminable meandering vocals, the underwritten choruses, the ponderous and directionless instrumentation that weakly suggests 'bombast' but nothing else
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
the way it sounds like it's one bong hit away from being a spoken word joint about how you hate your ex
dayo otm
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:30 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
hmmm, i don't pick up any of this in the suites
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think i've been probably the most outspoken member of this board in the past few years saying that the "suites" (title tracks on LVM, abyss/february love/whatever on the last one) are his weakest material! they tend to trade corny atmospherics for actual songs imo
xp
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha I want to post a screencap of my itunes playcount for love/money
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, September 4, 2011 2:35 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark
i disagree w/ this characterization of the suites
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
partic 'abyss' ... wtf
I've always hated the suites but I dunno how vocal I've been on these threads about that. I distinctly remember j0rd defending the suites as being among the best songs on l/m and love king tho... lex too I think
yeah you love abyss, i know, i think it sucks, we've been over this xp
you just otm'ed dayo and i agree 100% w/ him so idk what side you're on here
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
i should take back my dayo otm -- i do think that this album is the worst parts of the-dream's schtick, but i don't think its the suites themselves that were the problem or have poor songwriting on the other 2 albums
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
fuck I almost had my first deej otm
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
*writes long meandering song full of corny atmospherics in protest*
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink